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What a mess you have inherited.  I don't know even where to begin here.  Your team is about $60 million over the salary cap with no hope of getting under it anytime soon.  You have the highest payroll in the league, and couldn't even manage to win 25 games.  You had a Hall of Fame Coach who was a winner everywhere he's been, but he lost some of the players who were selfish underachievers.  Your owner, being a money grubbing moron, fires the coach rather than gets him the players he wants.  Additionally, your predecessor started this whole trend of trading expiring contracts for overpaid underachievers, and his track record as both a coach and a GM isn't all that.  Not to mention he's got a sexual harassment suit pending against him.

And that's just your front office.  Now look at your players.  Your roster is loaded with overpaid guys that underachieve, and no one else wants them, so it will be tough to get rid of them.  Your guards are "score first, pass the ball second" types who don't play any defense, and with the exception of Channing Frye and David Lee, your big men are soft.  They like to score but don't play defense or rebound. 

Getting this team back to where it was in the '90's will be at best, difficult, at worst impossible.  What do you do?

I would trade Channing Frye, Nate Robinson, my 2008 1st and 2nd Round Picks and Jalen Rose's expiring contracts for Eric Dampier.

Wait, am I supposed to pretend I am Isiah or make my own suggestions? If it's the latter, then forget what I just said.

No, Edge, try to make this team better.  We want to get back to the Ewing days. 

I'd try to get rid of Stephon Marbury as he is a locker room cancer. 
Frye, Robinson, and Lee are all keepers.   

This team is essentially untradeable unless we fire Isiah and he becomes GM somewhere else. Crawford, Marbury & Francis can't be moved.

I honestly don't know what moves to do. I guess you just have to suffer until these guys are done with their deals. Maybe trade their expiring contracts for draft picks or good players who don't have mega deals.

Presicely.....and make sure you hit on all your selections.  A few more drafts like the one last summer and this team will be back to the Ewing days. 

Ironically, Isiah is really good in drafting young talent, he just can't do anything else.

Then he needs to trade expiring contracts for draft picks, not overpaid marginal players or players that are based on reputation and not performance.  We could've really used the second overall pick but he included it in the Eddy Curry deal....... and gave the Bulls the option to swap picks with us next season.  Luckily for Isaiah though, he's got two lower first round picks to work with..... and there's some good big men who are expected to go low.  This draft is deep, there's just no sure thing like a LeBron James at the top. 

I find that even giving advice on how to fix the Knicks is futile because Isiah will never do it and Dolan is an idiot. It's like trying to do tax reform with the government, it's a pipe dream.

I wish I had $750 million so I could buy that team.  I would fire Isaiah and rehire Brown as coach and GM.

I wouldn't.  Brown has left 3 teams in a row disgruntled -- he's the TO of coaches.  Besides, that relationship is already soured.  The Knicks went wrong in paying him so much money and then canning him.

Unfortunatley, I think the Knicks are in a crap position and just have to play out with the guys they have.

That's Brown in a nutshell... he's always been a nomadic coach but a card-carrying genius.  Everywhere he's gone, he's built a winner, and if given enough time, he could've done it in New York.  Unfortunately, Thomas, being the asshole he is, promised to get Brown players that would listen to him, but then realizing it would cost a lot of money, he told Dolan that it would be more cost efficient to just can Brown.  Dolan, being the idiot that he is, listened. 

Brown is a Hall of Fame coach and should command respect.  Whiny jackoffs like Marbury have no place on Brown's teams. 

I hate the Knicks & things couldn't be better with the Heat on top of the world while NY drowns in its own vomit. But allow me to play devil's advocate here if I may:

I blow everything under Madison Sq Garden up, trade Marbury for anything to anyone who will give up a pick, a prospect, whatever. I scavenge the European leagues to find an angry, hungry center or forward to strengthen the [front]court - then just quietly build with youth while always looking for an opportunity to dump the overpaid leftovers. Realistically the outlook will be 2-3 lean yrs at best, but at the end hopefully you will have a youthful energized squad like the Mavs. Let's see what these clowns do - whatever happens, its going to get alot worse before it gets better. And I won't miss a minute of it, laughing the whole time.

Just remember, you guys couldn't win a playoff series against us so I still got bragging rights.

1997-  You beat half our team.... you know you would've lost if not for the fight that got 5 guys suspended.

1998-  Payback's a bitch aint it?  Your boy Mourning decides to get into fisticuffs and we take advantage of his absence in the final game.

1999- Alan Houston's last second shot (I was at this game).  How sweet it is!!!

2000-  Clarence Weatherspoon's last second shot that didn't go.  But the real capper game the game before, when you had us down 18 at the half and we came back and won by 2.  At that point, I knew the series was ours.  Our karma was too good for it to end any other way. 

ummm yes but who's laughing now? ...when was the knicks last championship?... thank you.

besides I don't think this is a knicks vs heat thread you started - something Im sure you want no part of right about now - it was fantasy gm for the knicks. I think the Knicks need to start off with a clean slate - the sooner the better. Take the hit, & start from scratch. No use in trying to make something out of the mess they have now no one is willing.

Brown is a great coach, he was setup to fail by Isiah. All Thomas did was fill the team with players Brown couldn't work with. Selfish guys who just want 30 shots a game. Brown sucks with rookies to be fair, but everything else was Isiah so that HE could become the coach, which is what he wanted from the start.

Brown never left a team worse off than he started except NY and it wasn't his fault. Can't wait for the arbitration hearings where David Stern tells Larry Dolan he is a fucking idiot and owes Larry Brown $40 Million.

I disagree. The Pistons were on the verge when they fired rick and hired him.

I hate basketball but I will watch this team.  No matter what you can't help but stare at a train wreck!

I don't watch the Knicks, I just follow the trainwreck. Every now & then I'll catch the last few minutes when they are down by 30.

Sadly, the Knicks will win about 30 games this year and Dolan will be convinced that Isiah is a great coach and give him an extension. Even when they stay at 30 wins the following 4 years. All for a measly $5 Million per win.

Don't you think it's a little weak to use a suspension as an excuse and then as a praise in consecutive sentences?

I wouldn't personally gloat about Mourning, but there is no doubt the 1997 suspensions were ridiculous. Myabe the Heat would've won anyway, but NY had no chance in that game.

We'll if im GM of the knicks i turn in my resignation papers in now. lol.

Renaldo balkman at pick 20, he could've been had in the second round. They passed on marcus williams, who ironically was swooped up by the cross- town rival new jersey. If nothing more the williams pick would've secured the knicks some decent PR.

Balkman is a high energy guy, but has limited offensive skills. Even Davis stern, as much as he needs the new york market cant save this debacle of a franchise.

Yeah, that pick was so ridiculous the crowd didn't even boo because they didn't know who he was. The NBA media guide didn't even have him listed and he goes in the first round.

I would've liked to have had Adam Morrisson if we had our original pick. I would rather have a guy who takes the game to heart than some fat slob like Eddie Curry who doesn't even want to be in the NBA.

I would've snapped up Tyrus Thomas with the #2 pick.  He's a high energy guy who is definitely suited for power forward.   Plus that will give Channing Frye the opportunity to get more minutes at center where he is  better suited. 

Back to the draft..... Balkman was a major mystery and ultimately, he's gonna end up being Thomas's undoing.  That guard from Temple is gonna turn out to be a nice pick, but regardless... the Knicks aren't gonna improve by more than 10 wins.  They have GOT to get rid of Marbury now.  If he keeps whining, he's gonna lose so much trade value that they won't be able to get a warm six pack for him.