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Title: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: Brian Fein on August 01, 2012, 10:40:44 am
I'm sick of reading these stories hyping up Tannehill.  These guys couldn't write a bad article about Tannehill if they had to.

The drama and the story is there, and they're writing it.  The media is doing their best to set up the QB controversy.  So that as soon as Matt Moore/David Garrard throws their first INT, the fans will commence clamoring:

"all those article i read during training camp said how awesome Tannehill is!  Let's start him and see what he's got!"

And when the coaching staff refuses to agree:

"these guys are bums, I hate Joe Philbin.  They need to start Tannehill.  They need walking papers!"

This is how every single Dolphins season goes.  This is the demise of the regime, and they haven't even stepped on the field yet.  And its all perpetuated by the media and their eagerness to anoint Tannehill as the next Dan Marino.

If the Dolphins don't come out and win 2 or 3 games out of the gate with Moore at QB, the fans will quickly turn on the new regime.  And I have no doubt Armando Salguero will be the first guy in the angry mob lighting his torch.

Don't believe the hype.


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: Cathal on August 01, 2012, 10:44:18 am
I thought they were saying Tannenhill is clearly in 3rd place and it's only between Garrad and Moore. Could be wrong though.


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: Brian Fein on August 01, 2012, 10:46:07 am
I thought they were saying Tannenhill is clearly in 3rd place and it's only between Garrad and Moore. Could be wrong though.
Originally, yes - and the coaching staff has said so as well, but every day there's a new article in the local papers and tweets from beat writers about how great Tannehill looks in camp.  What's the purpose of publishing those articles if not to create fan buzz around him?


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: Cathal on August 01, 2012, 11:02:18 am
Ah, I see. I guess I only really get my news from here during the offseason.


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: BigDaddyFin on August 01, 2012, 01:32:31 pm
Has Philbin even decided if he's going to play this year? 


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: Dolphster on August 01, 2012, 03:16:08 pm
He who creates the most controversy gets the most readership.  Unfortunately, sensationalism sells.


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: Pappy13 on August 01, 2012, 04:21:25 pm
If the Dolphins don't come out and win 2 or 3 games out of the gate with Moore at QB...
If he even gets the chance. I'm still seeing from almost everyone that is watching the practices that it's Garrard that is winning the QB battle. Unless Moore really turns it up a notch in the preseason games and outplays Garrard, Garrard is going to be starting QB week 1.


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: Pappy13 on August 01, 2012, 04:24:35 pm
I thought they were saying Tannenhill is clearly in 3rd place and it's only between Garrad and Moore. Could be wrong though.
Actually it's Garrard that is clearly #1, but I don't think it's clear anymore that Tannehill is #3. Tannehill is doing better in practice than what was expected and he's closed the gap on Moore. The only thing that is really saving Moore is that he's considered a "gamer", so he'll be given a chance to show in the games what he has, so he still has that, but remember that the regime really wants Tannehill to succeed, so if he's pretty close to Moore coming out of pre-season, there's a very real possibility they could cut Moore and go with Garrard, Tannehill and Devlin as the emergency QB/practice squad/scout squad QB.


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: MikeO on August 01, 2012, 04:28:25 pm
I don't know. You might be reading too much into it. Maybe Tannehill is just playing really well at camp thus far and is the most impressive in the eyes of some. It's not like he is competing with Montana/Young. Would it be that shocking IF he outplays Garrard and Moore?

I mean in April there were a few guys, respected guys who cover the draft, who said the difference between RGIII and Tannehill was slim and they were very close and RGIII was getting over hyped. And a few people even said Tannehill threw better on the run out of the pocket than both Luck and RGIII and that's where a lot of the NFL game is now, moving the pocket. If they were right and the majority who said Tannehill went to high at 8 were wrong, it wouldn't be surprising them to hear Tannehill is doing well in camp. I think its far too early to tell, but maybe Tannehill is the real deal. Who knows.

I still think at the end of the day no way in hell does Tannehill start Week 1 vs Houston. If they were playing St.Louis or Indy week 1, maybe. But on the road, vs a good to great defense, against maybe the best team in the AFC. It's Lose-Lose to start him Week 1. Let one of the vets take that game and they can bring Tannehill in at a better situation vs a better opponent down the road.


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: Brian Fein on August 01, 2012, 04:35:44 pm
Tannehill is doing better in practice than what was expected and he's closed the gap on Moore.
Where did you hear this?  Did you go to camp and witness it yourself, or are you reading the exact articles I am posting about and falling victim to the hype?


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: Pappy13 on August 01, 2012, 06:16:47 pm
Where did you hear this?  Did you go to camp and witness it yourself, or are you reading the exact articles I am posting about and falling victim to the hype?
What makes you think that I'm any better at evaluating the QB's then anybody else? You're absolutely correct that I'm listening to what I have read and heard, but it's not from 1 source, it's from multiple sources and they ALL say the same thing when it comes to Garrard, he's looked the best. If one person says it, I take it with a grain of salt. When 6 or 8 people say it, I start to assume it's true.

Now as far as Tannehill goes, it's not quite as clear that he's closing the gap on Moore, but more just talk that he's not as far behind as some people thought he would be at this point and that's coming straight out of Sherman and Philbin's mouth. Now you can believe whatever you want and believe that Philbin and Sherman are just saying that, but Philbin in particular doesn't strike me as someone that holds things back, he tells it like it is. I think they are very happy with where he is.

And some of it just has to do with me reading the reports and thinking they aren't quite as happy with where Moore is. Moore has consistently had trouble with turning over the ball, not just INT's but fumbles as well. Go look at his stats last year, he was a fumbling machine and he's already had about a half dozen fumbles in training camp (not OTA's, training camp, 5 practices) and that's working with a center that he's had the most snaps with of any of the QB's. Sherman was seen to be visibly upset with one such fumble and kicked the air. Maybe I'm reading too much into things, but you can't tell me that there aren't signs. Like I said, he's KNOWN to not be a great practice guy, so you have to take some of that with a grain of salt too, but he's going to have to produce in games to make up for that. I have read that Moore has the best deep ball of all the QB's which he can hang his hat on, but that's about all he has at this point.


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: EKnight on August 01, 2012, 06:31:39 pm
OF COURSE Tannehill looks good right now. He's playing against a the second string defense of a team that couldn't cover anyone with their first stringers last year. Duh! Garrard is going to be starting week 1. I pointed out back when mini-camp took place (April?) that he looked stronger than previously and he was out-playing Moore. -EK


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: Pappy13 on August 01, 2012, 06:39:22 pm
OF COURSE Tannehill looks good right now. He's playing against a the second string defense of a team that couldn't cover anyone with their first stringers last year. Duh! Garrard is going to be starting week 1. I pointed out back when mini-camp took place (April?) that he looked stronger than previously and he was out-playing Moore. -EK
He's also playing with the 2nd string offense of a team that isn't exactly an offensive juggernaught. I don't know anything that none of ya'll don't know, I'm just calling it like I see it. I think they are very happy with where Tannehill is right now and suspect they aren't as happy with where Moore is.

That's just my opinion, I could be wrong...and it could ALL change when the pre-season games start.


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: MikeO on August 01, 2012, 06:48:30 pm
He's also playing with the 2nd string offense. I don't know anything that none of ya'll don't know, I'm just calling it like I see it. I think they are very happy with where Tannehill is right now and suspect they aren't as happy with where Moore is.

That's just my opinion, I could be wrong...and it could ALL change when the pre-season games start.

Yeah, I agree. And you can't judge "OTA's" and "MINI CAMPS"  in early May either. Bunch of guys in shorts and no pads doing drills. Especially with a new offense and new coaching staff. What happens in training camp is all that matters.And as of today Garrard seems to be winning the battle. But the reports all can't be wrong and Tannehill is coming on strong. He might not beat out Garrard but he sure as hell could be the #2 and win that job easily.


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: Pappy13 on August 01, 2012, 06:54:08 pm
I don't know. You might be reading too much into it. Maybe Tannehill is just playing really well at camp thus far and is the most impressive in the eyes of some. It's not like he is competing with Montana/Young. Would it be that shocking IF he outplays Garrard and Moore?
No, but he really doesn't even necessarily have to outplay them. If he's close, then he's really ahead because he's the future. Remember that this regime did not sign Matt Moore. They signed both David Garrard and Ryan Tannehill. That doesn't mean a lot, but it's something.

I still think at the end of the day no way in hell does Tannehill start Week 1 vs Houston. If they were playing St.Louis or Indy week 1, maybe. But on the road, vs a good to great defense, against maybe the best team in the AFC. It's Lose-Lose to start him Week 1. Let one of the vets take that game and they can bring Tannehill in at a better situation vs a better opponent down the road.
I don't believe that Tannehill is going to start game 1 either, I have said all along that it will be either Garrard or Moore, whichever wins the QB battle, however that doesn't mean that they have to keep both of them. Pick one and go with him for this year. But if that guy gets hurt or doesn't produce in the first 4 or 5 games, then if Tannehill is pretty close why not put him in at that point? You have nothing to lose at that point. Now if 4 or 5 games in Miami is playing pretty well, then he continues to watch and learn from the vet, but if the starter goes down, then you have no choice but to start Tannehill, so you couldn't even be criticized for playing him at that point.

If Garrard wins the starting role, what role is Moore really there for? If Garrard doesn't play well? You're not going to pull Garrard after 2 games, you're going to give him at least 3 or 4 to see if he can get it straigthened out. If he doesn't, you're now gonna switch to Moore? Why? Why not just put in Tannehill at that point and give him some starts and playing time. The only possible scenario I can think of to really keep Moore is if you are afraid that Garrard could be knocked out of game 1 or 2 and you don't think that Tannehill will be ready yet. Then I can see you putting in Moore to give Tannehill a little more time, but is it worth it to keep 3 QB's on the active roster for that situation? I don't know. Maybe I take my chances and only keep 2 QB's on the active roster and keep another unproven WR or someone who can help you on special teams or something instead of a 3rd QB.


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: MikeO on August 01, 2012, 07:00:39 pm
^^The only reason you have Garrard/Moore/Tannehill ALL on the Week 1 roster is because you hope another teams starting QB goes down before the trade deadline and you can move Moore or Garrard for a 6th or 7th round pick.

That makes a little sense actually, but I do agree in principal that there is no need to keep all 3 and if they cut Garrard or Moore (whoever loses the battle) before the season starts I would also be fine with that.


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: Pappy13 on August 01, 2012, 07:05:50 pm
^^The only reason you have Garrard/Moore/Tannehill ALL on the Week 1 roster is because you hope another teams starting QB goes down before the trade deadline and you can move Moore or Garrard for a 6th or 7th round pick.

That makes a little sense actually, but I do agree in principal that there is no need to keep all 3 and if they cut Garrard or Moore (whoever loses the battle) before the season starts I would also be fine with that.
Someone is going to trade for the Dolphins #2 QB? Trade what? a 6th round pick? There will be QB's that are pretty close to Matt Moore that will be cut the final week of the pre-season that you can get for nothing. Not worth it.


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: EKnight on August 01, 2012, 07:37:54 pm
Someone is going to trade for the Dolphins #2 QB? Trade what? a 6th round pick? There will be QB's that are pretty close to Matt Moore that will be cut the final week of the pre-season that you can get for nothing. Not worth it.

Absolutely- there's some out there NOW. McNabb, Delhomme, Losman al lcome to mind, and all are FREE. Why would anyone give up a draft pick for a guy who either didn't couldn't find a job last year, or was let go/not resigned by a 2-14 team the year before. I'd be shocked if someone gave up a pick for either guy. -EK


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: MikeO on August 01, 2012, 08:03:06 pm
Someone is going to trade for the Dolphins #2 QB? Trade what? a 6th round pick? There will be QB's that are pretty close to Matt Moore that will be cut the final week of the pre-season that you can get for nothing. Not worth it.

Teams, decent teams, are gonna lose a QB at some point (Hell Big Ben is already dinged up if not hurt). Happens every year. Some team will part with a 6th or 7th round meaningless pick if it means they can have a "serviceable" career back-up to try and salvage their season.  Nobody will trade for anyone NOW, but come October its a different story. Maybe nobody gets injured by then and there is no trade. But that is rare. Someone will go down

Teams like Chicago and Oakland last year were put in impossible spots because their QB's were dropping like flies. And it cost Chicago big-time in the end.  I have seen worse QB's than Matt Moore get traded in this league.


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: Brian Fein on August 02, 2012, 09:38:17 am
Guys - Garrard is made of glass.  He's a thousand years old and just came off back surgery.  It is entirely possible that you need Matt Moore to step in if Garrard gets injured.  I can't believe you guys - why would you NOT want to have the best chance on your team.

Its called a backup for a reason, and Matt Moore, right now, is better than Tannehill.  Tannehill shouldn't be putting his helmet on one single time for a real game this season unless its the 4th quarter in a game where the score differential is 30 points or more either way.


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: masterfins on August 02, 2012, 11:33:21 am
Teams, decent teams, are gonna lose a QB at some point (Hell Big Ben is already dinged up if not hurt). Happens every year. Some team will part with a 6th or 7th round meaningless pick if it means they can have a "serviceable" career back-up to try and salvage their season.  Nobody will trade for anyone NOW, but come October its a different story. Maybe nobody gets injured by then and there is no trade. But that is rare. Someone will go down

Teams like Chicago and Oakland last year were put in impossible spots because their QB's were dropping like flies. And it cost Chicago big-time in the end.  I have seen worse QB's than Matt Moore get traded in this league.

Exactly Correct.


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: Pappy13 on August 02, 2012, 01:49:53 pm
It is entirely possible that you need Matt Moore to step in if Garrard gets injured.  I can't believe you guys - why would you NOT want to have the best chance on your team.
The Dolphins call them progress stoppers. Read this (http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2012/07/the-dolphins-have-a-term-that-they-refer-to-when-deciding-whether-to-add-a-veteran-player-or-not-progress-stopper-i-hear.html) from Aramando's blog from a few days ago which does a decent job of explaining the problem. Your roster is a balancing act. You only get to choose 53. You don't look at just the QB's and decide who the best 2 or 3 QB's are put them on your roster, you look at the best 53 for your roster. Sometimes that means really tough decisions like having to cut a veteran player who might be better right now than a younger guy because he has more experience, but the younger guy has more upside and with more time will potentially be better than the veteran player.


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: Brian Fein on August 02, 2012, 02:40:59 pm
Sorry, I hate Armando the most and I refuse to read his blog.  He's the #1 offender of what my original post was about.  My opinion.


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: Pappy13 on August 02, 2012, 02:52:22 pm
Sorry, I hate Armando the most and I refuse to read his blog.  He's the #1 offender of what my original post was about.  My opinion.
Ok, but this wasn't Armando's opinion, he was explaining what the Dolphins have explained to him. The Dolphins believe that a veteran player can sometimes be a hinderance to the team even when he's the better player. They even have a term for it.


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: Brian Fein on August 02, 2012, 03:15:24 pm
And that's fine, but he's speaking from the perspective knowing that he wants Tannehill to accelerate his career path.  Matt Moore stands in his way.  His agenda (although you will likely argue that he has no agenda) is to get Tannehill on the field as soon as possible. 

If it means writing posts about how its bad to keep a veteran backup and keep the rookie buried on the depth chart, then so be it.


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: Pappy13 on August 02, 2012, 04:15:15 pm
And that's fine, but he's speaking from the perspective knowing that he wants Tannehill to accelerate his career path.  Matt Moore stands in his way.  His agenda (although you will likely argue that he has no agenda) is to get Tannehill on the field as soon as possible. 
Well if you read the blog, he wasn't even talking about Tannehill and Matt Moore, he was talking about whether the Dolphins were interested in bringing in Braylon Edwards and what that would mean to guys like Marlon Moore, Roberto Wallace etc.

Armando is not the one suggesting that Matt Moore should be cut, that's all on me, but I'm using the same theory that the Dolphins were using when considering bringing in Braylon Edwards. He might be better than another player on the roster, but that doesn't necessarily mean you want to keep him over that other player if he has more talent and is younger and just needs experience to possibly be an even better player.


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: MikeO on August 02, 2012, 04:31:17 pm


Its called a backup for a reason, and Matt Moore, right now, is better than Tannehill.  Tannehill shouldn't be putting his helmet on one single time for a real game this season unless its the 4th quarter in a game where the score differential is 30 points or more either way.

Can't let ya a few preseason games be played before you put Tannehill on the bench for the entire season. Jees, give the guy a chance!


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: MikeO on August 02, 2012, 04:34:59 pm
The Dolphins call them progress stoppers. Read this (http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2012/07/the-dolphins-have-a-term-that-they-refer-to-when-deciding-whether-to-add-a-veteran-player-or-not-progress-stopper-i-hear.html) from Aramando's blog from a few days ago which does a decent job of explaining the problem. Your roster is a balancing act. You only get to choose 53. You don't look at just the QB's and decide who the best 2 or 3 QB's are put them on your roster, you look at the best 53 for your roster. Sometimes that means really tough decisions like having to cut a veteran player who might be better right now than a younger guy because he has more experience, but the younger guy has more upside and with more time will potentially be better than the veteran player.

It's the same reason the Fins probably didn't sign Braylon Edwards. Is Edwards better than most of the WR's on Miami's roster. YES. But you can't carry Edwards, Johnson, Nanee and have 3 WR's who don't play special teams. You can't have a roster like that. It doesn't work.

Moore and Garrard are in the final years of their deals. Tannehill WILL be here next year in 2013. The other 2 probably won't. This notion that we will keep the 2 guys, at QB no less, who won't be here next year at all costs and handcuff Tannehill to the bench all season is silly.

They might keep all 3 for a while. But come October, November or whenever Tannehill's number is called and he is put into action, that will be the week that either Moore or Garrard is cut or traded!


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: Pappy13 on August 02, 2012, 05:17:42 pm
Need more evidence that Tannehill is closing the gap on the other 2 QB's? Today Tannehill got some snaps with the 1st team offense. When they asked Philbin about it after practice he said that Tannehill had earned that right via his play in the first couple days of practice when he had been working only with the #2's and #3's.

So how did he do? Well he did fine in drills when no one is in his face. Under pressure he didn't do as well. Not horrible mind you, just not as well.

The determining factor in all of this is going to be the pre-season games. If Garrard looks the best in games, there's no question in my mind that he will start game 1 and Moore will probably back him up. If Moore looks the best in games, then it's going to be a tough call whom to start because he hasn't looked as good as Garrard in practice, they could go with either one and let the other be the backup. If Tannehill looks the best in games, I still think they start the season with Garrard and continue to let Tannehill season a little bit on the bench and wait to see how Garrard does. That would probably be very bad news for Moore however as I don't think they would keep him as the #3 QB.


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: Brian Fein on August 02, 2012, 09:08:56 pm
Edwards and Marlon Moore/Wallace play the same position.  The argument makes sense.

But cutting Matt Moore to keep Julius Pruitt does not make sense.

And I doubt you'll find anyone that thinks Pat Devlin is more valuable than Matt Moore.


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: MikeO on August 02, 2012, 10:33:19 pm
Edwards and Marlon Moore/Wallace play the same position.  The argument makes sense.

But cutting Matt Moore to keep Julius Pruitt does not make sense.

And I doubt you'll find anyone that thinks Pat Devlin is more valuable than Matt Moore.

Matt Moore won't be in Miami in 2013. He even said this past offseason that his goal when he enters free agency next year is to get "Matt Flynn money".

Matt Moore's "value" to Miami IF he doesn't win  the starters job is nill.


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: MikeO on August 02, 2012, 10:54:16 pm
Speak of the devil, the report is now out

The Palm Beach Post reports the Dolphins have considered carrying Ryan Tannehill as the No. 2 quarterback, making the loser of the David Garrard-Matt Moore battle expendable.

and this....

If Tannehill does play well, it could make either Moore or Garrard expendable. Both are vested veterans, meaning their entire 2012 salary becomes guaranteed if they are on the Week 1 roster.

Moore is in the final year of a two-year contract, and the Dolphins could avoid paying him a $2.75 million salary if it cuts or trades him for a mid-round pick (Moore would still cost $750,000 against the salary cap).

If the Dolphins cut or trade Garrard, who signed a one-year deal this offseason, they could avoid paying him a $2.25 million salary, though they already gave him a $1 million signing bonus and $100,000 workout bonus (Garrard would count $1 million against the cap if cut).


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: Landshark on August 03, 2012, 08:21:31 am
Speak of the devil, the report is now out

The Palm Beach Post reports the Dolphins have considered carrying Ryan Tannehill as the No. 2 quarterback, making the loser of the David Garrard-Matt Moore battle expendable.

and this....

If Tannehill does play well, it could make either Moore or Garrard expendable. Both are vested veterans, meaning their entire 2012 salary becomes guaranteed if they are on the Week 1 roster.

Moore is in the final year of a two-year contract, and the Dolphins could avoid paying him a $2.75 million salary if it cuts or trades him for a mid-round pick (Moore would still cost $750,000 against the salary cap).

If the Dolphins cut or trade Garrard, who signed a one-year deal this offseason, they could avoid paying him a $2.25 million salary, though they already gave him a $1 million signing bonus and $100,000 workout bonus (Garrard would count $1 million against the cap if cut).


MikeODamus  :)


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: Brian Fein on August 03, 2012, 10:02:23 am
Source?

Anyone can type in bold italics, doesn't make it credible.


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: Pappy13 on August 03, 2012, 10:34:07 am
Ben Volin (http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/sports/football/early-buzz-at-dolphins-camp-garrard-has-lead-in-qb/nP9JS/) - Palm Beach Post staff writer.


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: Pappy13 on August 03, 2012, 01:44:24 pm
And now this (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/dolphins-blog/sfl-how-much-progress-have-the-dolphins-made-20120803,0,3504088.story) from Omar Kelly of the Sun Sentinal.

"I went into Dolphins camp concerned about the following issues:

1. Is Ryan Tannehill adjusting to the speed of the NFL game?

Tannehill is doing MUCH better than his OTA and minicamp showing. He's progressing everyday. I'm still noticing too many sacks and interceptions, which would get an offense killed in real games, and he's still tentative when it comes to throwing the ball in the middle of the field. But each day progress gets made.

If that trend continues there's a chance he could catch Matt Moore, moving ahead of last year's incumbent starter, who has erratic practices. But David Garrard is just WAY too polished for the rookie to leapfrog the nine-year veteran on the depth chart before the regular season.

Games haven't been played yet, but I project the depth chart will look like this in a month: Garrard, Tannehill and then Moore."



Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on August 03, 2012, 02:16:50 pm
Games haven't been played yet, but I project the depth chart will look like this in a month: Garrard, Tannehill and then Moore."[/i]


If that is the depth chart it makes little sense to keep Moore.  Sign a rookie or 2nd year player to the PS to have a third QB. 


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: Pappy13 on August 03, 2012, 02:34:08 pm
If that is the depth chart it makes little sense to keep Moore.  Sign a rookie or 2nd year player to the PS to have a third QB. 
If that is the depth chart, it won't be the depth chart. Moore will be cut and the depth chart will be Garrard, Tannehill and Devlin.


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on August 03, 2012, 02:49:26 pm
If that is the depth chart, it won't be the depth chart. Moore will be cut and the depth chart will be Garrard, Tannehill and Devlin.

I forgot you already had a fourth QB.  Yeah, if Tannehill beats out Moore than cut Moore and keep Pat Devlin. 


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: bsfins on August 03, 2012, 03:04:21 pm
YAWWWNNN...Camp reports...Boring as hell... :-\

my random thought today

My being overly cautious concern with keeping Garrard over Moore,is a 34 year old Qb that has a bad back....Partially (so it was reported) why he didn't play last season...I'd expect Garrard to be better in Training camp he is the veteran,and most experienced QB in camp...

I'm of the mindset I'd rather keep Tannehill on the bench most of this year.More because of the fans,not because of Tannehill,or his abilities

Wake me after the 2nd preseason game...


Title: Re: Reporters continue to stir the pot at Dolphins camp
Post by: MikeO on August 03, 2012, 04:23:59 pm
Peter King says Garrard looks more impressive than Peyton currently

After visiting both Broncos and Dolphins camp, SI's Peter King believes David Garrard has been more impressive in practice than Peyton Manning.

Per King, Garrard was "terrific consistently through practice," and "in general, looking extremely comfortable in a West Coast offense." Added coach Joe Philbin, "this guy's got something to him. I like what I've seen. King also says he's "told" Garrard has outplayed Matt Moore and Ryan Tannehill all camp. Most camp reports need to be taken with a grain of salt. It does sound like 34-year-old Garrard is clearly healthy and fresh after sitting out all of 2011.