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Title: We finally have a Triple Crown winner in this lifetime
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on June 06, 2015, 10:12:50 pm
Last time a horse won the Triple Crown, I was just a kid.  Great to see American Pharaoh do what a slew of other horses could not. 


Title: Re: We finally have a Triple Crown winner in this lifetime
Post by: Dave Gray on June 08, 2015, 10:44:50 am
I don't mean to be a dismissive dick, but does anyone ACTUALLY care about this?  I mean...yeah, it's kinda cool to see something that's rare like this, but does anyone watch or follow horse-racing anymore?  Does it have a fanbase?


Title: Re: We finally have a Triple Crown winner in this lifetime
Post by: MikeO on June 08, 2015, 10:58:45 am
I don't mean to be a dismissive dick, but does anyone ACTUALLY care about this?  I mean...yeah, it's kinda cool to see something that's rare like this, but does anyone watch or follow horse-racing anymore?  Does it have a fanbase?

Fanbase isn't huge but bigger than you probably think.  It has a "niche" fanbase (mainly degenerate gamblers) and there are pockets of the country where this is a huge deal and horse racing has a huge following.

If you go to a racetrack in the summer months the attendance would shock you. Hit an OTB on a random Saturday, it will be filled. I mean its not one of the 5 or 6 major sports in this country but it has a bigger fanbase than you think


Title: Re: We finally have a Triple Crown winner in this lifetime
Post by: masterfins on June 08, 2015, 11:11:51 am
It's certainly a declining fan base, but to go out to the track to watch the races live it's a lot of fun, especially for the big races.  I think it's great that there is finally another Triple Crown winner, unfortunately I missed it, this was the first time in 15 years I didn't go to the Preakness.  I did win some money though.


Title: Re: We finally have a Triple Crown winner in this lifetime
Post by: Phishfan on June 08, 2015, 11:31:37 am
I have a moral objection to horse racing but there are a lot of gamblers around me that pay attention to these three races. I didn't even know there had been a triple crown winner until about 2:30 in the morning.


Title: Re: We finally have a Triple Crown winner in this lifetime
Post by: Tenshot13 on June 08, 2015, 02:07:46 pm
I don't mean to be a dismissive dick, but does anyone ACTUALLY care about this?  I mean...yeah, it's kinda cool to see something that's rare like this, but does anyone watch or follow horse-racing anymore?  Does it have a fanbase?
I don't give a damn about this personally, but my in-laws love the three big races.  My father-in-law was saying that it's a sham because the last two races had fields of 8 horses when it's normally like 12, so this horse didn't have a lot of competition. 


Title: Re: We finally have a Triple Crown winner in this lifetime
Post by: MikeO on June 08, 2015, 02:25:01 pm
  My father-in-law was saying that it's a sham because the last two races had fields of 8 horses when it's normally like 12, so this horse didn't have a lot of competition. 

No competition, he faced a ton of competition. Tell your father in law that American Pharoah faced the 2nd most challengers in 3 triple crown races ever (31). Only War Admiral had more at 32 and won the Triple Crown.


Title: Re: We finally have a Triple Crown winner in this lifetime
Post by: Tenshot13 on June 08, 2015, 04:35:53 pm
No competition, he faced a ton of competition. Tell your father in law that American Pharoah faced the 2nd most challengers in 3 triple crown races ever (31). Only War Admiral had more at 32 and won the Triple Crown.
If I care enough to tell him next time I see him, I will.


Title: Re: We finally have a Triple Crown winner in this lifetime
Post by: CF DolFan on June 09, 2015, 08:26:30 am
I don't mean to be a dismissive dick, but does anyone ACTUALLY care about this?  I mean...yeah, it's kinda cool to see something that's rare like this, but does anyone watch or follow horse-racing anymore?  Does it have a fanbase?
Our family does. The women have ridden English, western, dressage, etc. forever so whenever the big races are on you get phone calls to make sure you are watching. They get very excited over the whole deal. I don't mind them but wouldn't call myself a fan. Taking my wife to the Kentucky Derby is on our bucket list.


Title: Re: We finally have a Triple Crown winner in this lifetime
Post by: Fau Teixeira on June 09, 2015, 08:59:13 am
horse racing, dog racing, cock fighting, dog fighting

pass on all of those ...


Title: Re: We finally have a Triple Crown winner in this lifetime
Post by: Sunstroke on June 09, 2015, 09:15:58 am
horse racing, dog racing, cock fighting, dog fighting

pass on all of those ...

jaywalking, spitting on the sidewalk, rape, murder.

I pass on all of those too, but I also usually avoid grouping them together, so that people don't mistakenly assume that I consider them to be equal offenses.

;)



Title: Re: We finally have a Triple Crown winner in this lifetime
Post by: Phishfan on June 09, 2015, 09:39:55 am
^^^ I'm not sure it is mistaken. I think he purposely lumped them together. I personally don't think it is quite as severe but as I mentioned I have an objection to the sport as well.


Title: Re: We finally have a Triple Crown winner in this lifetime
Post by: Sunstroke on June 09, 2015, 09:51:13 am
^^^ I'm not sure it is mistaken. I think he purposely lumped them together. I personally don't think it is quite as severe but as I mentioned I have an objection to the sport as well.

I was giving Fau the benefit of the doubt, as I see dog fighting as being worlds away from horse racing.



Title: Re: We finally have a Triple Crown winner in this lifetime
Post by: Dave Gray on June 09, 2015, 10:49:25 am
In my own family, my parents watch the big races.  But I feel like they do it for nostaligia and they only care about it for the 2 minutes it's on, and have no knowledge of the sport, the horses, or the jockeys prior or afterwards.


Title: Re: We finally have a Triple Crown winner in this lifetime
Post by: Sunstroke on June 09, 2015, 11:00:04 am

While I am not fanatical about it, I do usually watch the three triple crown races each year. I am, admittedly, a little biased towards horse racing, as we are all products of our upbringing. When I was a kid, one of my dad's more successful radio shows was "The Winner's Circle with Harry Stevens," so I spent more than a little bit of my childhood time at Prescott Downs, watching races, talking with trainers, jockeys and track staff. We also had horses when I was growing up, so being in the saddle in general, and racing against friends who also had horses were perfectly natural things for me.




Title: Re: We finally have a Triple Crown winner in this lifetime
Post by: Fau Teixeira on June 09, 2015, 12:46:54 pm
I lumped those together on purpose ..

Peta of all people produced a video on the abuses in horse racing .. and while i hate peta .. like really hate them ..

video don't lie:

https://youtu.be/9TJVA2lwW4A


Title: Re: We finally have a Triple Crown winner in this lifetime
Post by: CF DolFan on June 09, 2015, 04:15:04 pm
Thank God PETA would never exaggerate or leave out facts n order to make their point!! LOL

My guess is you probably dislike PETA for the very same reasons you are agreeing with them against horse racing. .


Title: Re: We finally have a Triple Crown winner in this lifetime
Post by: Sunstroke on June 09, 2015, 06:16:39 pm

I love animals as much as I love people, but I have the same amount of respect for PETA as I do for the Westboro Baptist Church.

...None whatsoever



Title: Re: We finally have a Triple Crown winner in this lifetime
Post by: Fau Teixeira on June 10, 2015, 10:07:32 am
hidden camera video don't lie .. i don't care who it's being shot for or on behalf of. Don't shoot the messenger just because you don't like the message.


Title: Re: We finally have a Triple Crown winner in this lifetime
Post by: Phishfan on June 10, 2015, 10:10:55 am
I think we all have about the same level of love for PETA. That doesn't change the fact that horse racing has a terribly shady side to it.


Title: Re: We finally have a Triple Crown winner in this lifetime
Post by: Sunstroke on June 10, 2015, 12:01:19 pm
hidden camera video don't lie .. i don't care who it's being shot for or on behalf of. Don't shoot the messenger just because you don't like the message.

I think most things involving mankind have a good side and a shady side to them, a tribute to the dichotomy which is mankind. Would I like to get rid of, or at least reduce, the shady side of things, including horse racing? Absolutely! Does that mean I want to eradicate everything that has a shady side? Nope...



Title: Re: We finally have a Triple Crown winner in this lifetime
Post by: Brian Fein on June 10, 2015, 03:26:25 pm
I think most things involving mankind money have a good side and a shady side to them,


Modified your statement to make it more accurate.


Title: Re: We finally have a Triple Crown winner in this lifetime
Post by: Sunstroke on June 10, 2015, 05:35:28 pm
Modified your statement to make it more accurate.

Until animals start using currency, all things involving money involve mankind.

All people, from Gandhi to Manson, have both good and evil in them. The better the person, the more completely they are able to suppress the evil and act on the good.

From the Book of Sun, chapter 1, verse 12.  ;D

Amen



Title: Re: We finally have a Triple Crown winner in this lifetime
Post by: BuccaneerBrad on June 09, 2018, 06:57:57 pm
RISE FROM YOUR GRAVE

Now we've had two Triple Crown winners in the last four years.  Justify just smoked everyone at the Belmont.   When Affirmed won it in 1978, I hadn't been born yet.   I never thought I'd see it until American Pharaoh won it in 2015.  Now I've seen it twice


Title: Re: We finally have a Triple Crown winner in this lifetime
Post by: masterfins on June 13, 2018, 11:37:15 pm
I got to see this winner at the Preakness this year.  Beautiful horse, great race.


Title: Re: We finally have a Triple Crown winner in this lifetime
Post by: BuccaneerBrad on June 14, 2018, 07:59:28 am
I found out that Justify's owner paid $500,000 for him.  His stud rights were just sold to a horse breeding company for $75 million.  Now that's a helluva return on investment.


Title: Re: We finally have a Triple Crown winner in this lifetime
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on June 14, 2018, 09:06:44 am
Comparing dog fighting to horse racing like comparing boxing to track. 


Title: Re: We finally have a Triple Crown winner in this lifetime
Post by: masterfins on June 14, 2018, 02:00:41 pm
I found out that Justify's owner paid $500,000 for him.  His stud rights were just sold to a horse breeding company for $75 million.  Now that's a helluva return on investment.

I recently read/heard that American Pharaoh has earned about $40 million in stud fees here in the US, then was shipped overseas where it is expected he will earn a similar amount.


Title: Re: We finally have a Triple Crown winner in this lifetime
Post by: BuccaneerBrad on June 15, 2018, 01:24:20 pm
I recently read/heard that American Pharaoh has earned about $40 million in stud fees here in the US, then was shipped overseas where it is expected he will earn a similar amount.

It wouldn't surprise me if he's getting that Egyptian horse pussy. 


Title: Re: We finally have a Triple Crown winner in this lifetime
Post by: BigDaddyFin on June 16, 2018, 08:44:48 am
I was just happy that one of these amazing animals, let alone two win the triple crown and I was around to see it


Title: Re: We finally have a Triple Crown winner in this lifetime
Post by: CF DolFan on June 18, 2018, 09:50:33 am
We got Mike Smith (the jockey) to autograph a copy of Sports Illustrated with him on the cover after the first time he won the Kentucky Derby.