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When these forums first started so many years ago, I decided that I wanted to try to stand out by welcome fans of opposing teams.  I wanted our haters to be among us.  This section allowed for us to be trolled on the forums, but for that stuff to be kept out of real team discussions.  It used to get a lot of traffic.

But over the years, the culture of TDMMC has taken over.  The "trolls" aren't trolls anymore, and are functioning members of the site, which I think is great.

So, Anti-Fins is now a place for a weekly "shame" thread, that's pretty barren on a 6 game win streak.  And there's a straggler-threads here and there.

Do any of you have ideas for how to spruce this section us?  Weekly ideas for things that might bring interesting discussion?

It's pretty funny that there is no activity on this site and the mods feel the need to move threads for no reason. This forum is "for people who don't like the dolphins"  per the description. It doesn't say to post anything that doesn't fellate our qb here.

I suspect that if you move all the threads that are critical of Ryan Tannehill to this section, and make that known in the main forum, this area will immediately become more busy, since the functioning of the team's quarterback is of utmost importance to the team's success or the lack thereof.

In taking more of a look through this forum (for the first time), what it seems it's become is an area in which moderators can exercise their power by moving to it topics that they frown upon, posted by members they freely ridicule.

The spirit it sounds like you're coming from above here, Dave Gray, doesn't seem consistent with that at all.  I'm not surprised this has devolved to something that doesn't meet with your satisfaction.

Let's be honest here, in one year there has been exactly one topic moved here and it was a bashing of Tannehill. It is precisely the topic that goes into this forum and you seem hurt that a mod put it here rather than where you originally posted it.

I think general and reasonably objective discussion of the team and it's strengths and weaknesses would be a better fit for the main forum. This one should be reserved for topics that are distinctly and by design negative on the Dolphins. So if I want to post a thread about how much Ajayi sucks because xxx, then this (anti-fins section) is the place, regardless of merit. If I want to discuss the different running backs we have and their relative strengths and weaknesses, then the main forum would be a better fit.

Just MHO.

Yeah, that's the idea.  You don't have to hate the Dolphins to post here.  But it's threads that have a generally negative connotation.  There is some judgement there, in a case by case.

Oh I'm not hurt.  I'll just stand by and let you all make yourselves look bad by making these sorts of judgments. :)

OK, but this is not going to be discussed in the forum any more. Dave has stated in the past it is judgement. I left your copy over post (I'm sure trying to hide it that way is just another example of how you are taking this so easily) and the rules are to not question mods on moved or deleted posts in thread. A topic of negativity was moved to the anti section. Get over it already. Discuss it in PM with Dave, the mod who moved your post, or any other mod.

Until the team wins the Super Bowl, there are bound to be threads with negative connotations, posted by people who care deeply about the team and want it to succeed, and are merely trying to determine what it is about the team that's preventing that level of success (in their opinion).

Again, you have a forum here that was intended for one purpose, that has clearly devolved to fulfilling another, in this case a power play by your moderators.  They don't like the content of a post, and/or who posted it, and so they move it here, regardless of the purpose of this forum.

Lol there are more mods than regular posters. Quite the circle jerk.

Well I don't respond well to tyranny, no, as does typically no one else either, but again, I'm not "hurt," as you put it.

It isn't tyranny to move a negative post to the anti section. It isn't a punishment, it isn't a power move. It is placing a negative thought into the appropriate area.

Jesus dude, let it go.

Speaking of which, do you know the definition of a true competitor?

A guy who finishes first and third in a circle jerk.

 ;D

I type 90 words a minute.  Throwing a quick post onto an internet forum is hardly indicative for me of "not letting it go."

I suspect that if you continue to move any and all negative thoughts into a different forum, your entire site will grind to a very silent halt in not too long a period of time.  Watch.

Dolphins discussion. "Tackle issues with the phins".

Anti fina-don't like dolphins post here

It's clear that dolfanylst liked the dolphins. Why would he post here. Change the forum definitions if you want your dolphin circle jerk in the main forum.

Better to have magic fingers than quick ones M I RITE!?

I'll put my history of backing the team up against anyone's here.  There are probably few people on the planet who do as in-depth an investigation of the team's functioning.

Your primary MO since joining this site has been to attack Tannehill, and you've been banned from several other sites for doing so.  Let's not pretend that the agenda is opaque.

If you care to check in a balanced manner and not cherry-pick, you'll find that I call it like it is, and provide a balanced appraisal of Tannehill, saying exactly when he performs well, and exactly when he performs poorly.

Here's a great example of the former:  http://www.thedolphinsmakemecry.com/forums/index.php?topic=24471.0

So, when someone who behaves in that manner has his posts moved and is repeatedly personally attacked in a manner similar to how you have here (i.e., the quote above), obviously the agenda lies with the people doing the attacking and the moving of posts, who apparently need for there to never be anything negative said about Tannehill! :)

Do you honestly believe that on fan sites devoted to the Dolphins, where people would like to remain hopeful about the team's chances of success, there won't be a bias in favor of the quarterback the fans' hopes are riding on, largely?

Such a bias constitutes an "agenda" in itself when it results in the differential treatment of some members of a forum.

The problem is not in criticism of Tannehill.  Many posters here have done so.

The problem is that immediately after joining the site, you have consistently twisted stat after stat into a criticism of Tannehill in nearly every thread, and that you are doing this after being banned for the exact same thing elsewhere.  Another poster (say, Run Ricky Run) might get the benefit of the doubt, but the mods were warned (by posters from other sites) that you would do exactly this thing when you signed up, and you have followed your usual script to a T since joining.

My usual script to a T is to say when Tannehill plays well, and say when he plays poorly.

Now, years ago, he played predominantly poorly, and so there were comparatively fewer opportunities to say when he played well.

How do you think that went over when fans desperately wanted to remain hopeful in the first, first-round draft pick since Dan Marino?

Click on the thread I linked in my post just above this one.  Please, tell me how I "twisted" (your word) the statistics in that original post to be a criticism of Tannehill.

If you can't do that, and you persist in your viewpoint above, then you have the agenda here, not me.

If you want to make posts criticizing Gase, or Landry, or Wake, I'm sure you'll find a more open-minded audience.  But your continued bashing of Tannehill is clearly based on an agenda that you have expressed repeatedly before joining this site.  It is more appropriately located in Anti-Fins Chat, so as not to bog down actual discussion with an opinion with roughly the same level of predetermined bias as "the dolphins suck and always will!"

Like I said, if you can't do that (and you didn't), and you persist in your viewpoint (and you did), then you have the agenda here, not me.

I'm surprised you made that so easy to ascertain! :D

No people are pretty convinced Landry is good even though he isn't. He's great in ppr leagues. Not so good in actual football.

No need, you just did it Dave. This thread is epically fucking glorious, bwahaha ;D

My lord this guy has a history of acting this way on other sites who have banned him? LOL. And he has brought his act over here to continue it?  I am shocked at the amount of free time people have in their every day lives I really am.

What's ironic about this statement is that "acting this way," when applied to me, involves not a single post in which I've ever been disrespectful or attacking of another individual here, over the course of nearly a thousand posts.

What exactly are your all's priorities here?  Frequently divergent viewpoints offered in a respectful manner, or widespread agreement with frequent personal attacks such as these above?

Our priorities include not having every thread getting hijacked into a shitstorm attack on a single player and not having multiple threads with bogus attacks all on the exact same theme.

Now that you know that is a priority of the mods please help us achieve it. 

Thanks for asking.

Dolfanalyst, no one is attacking you personally.  Your posts (and the positions you are taking in them) are what are being questioned.

You are perfectly free to continue your series of anti-Tannehill posts, but you have been notified that in light of your posting history, they will be treated in the same manner that we would treat posts from a Jets fan who arrived to the site and politely, courteously, and repeatedly pointed out that the Dolphins are objectively a terrible franchise and should be contracted from the league.

How's this one sit with you?

http://www.thedolphinsmakemecry.com/forums/index.php?topic=24471.0

How about this one?

http://www.thedolphinsmakemecry.com/forums/index.php?topic=24457.0

This one?

http://www.thedolphinsmakemecry.com/forums/index.php?topic=24428.0

This one?

http://www.thedolphinsmakemecry.com/forums/index.php?topic=24348.0

This one?

http://www.thedolphinsmakemecry.com/forums/index.php?topic=24330.0

You people are making it awfully easy to determine that you have an agenda here. :D

Here's a hint:  realize that when you post something, it actually says something about you! ;)

Don't think so highly of yourself that there is an agenda towards you by total strangers. It's not pro or anti Tannehill bias. It's you beat a dead horse and are a one-trick pony. Find another topic we get your stance on Tannehill. You don't have to write a novel anymore on the issue. Everyone is crystal clear where you stand.

Yes, it must be everyone else (on multiple message boards!) that has the pro-Tannehill bias, while you are the only one who can see clearly through the rose-colored fog.

The one constant in all of your problems is you.

I certainly think there is a pro tannehill slant here. The same shit was w henne about all he needed was a good wr. Then it was the Ocs fault. Then it was the online etc. henne wasn't the answer and tannehill is not the guy. But if don't try to make him do anything he will be fine. Run the ball

To be fair we are all on the same team. Everybody is frustrated. The patriots have won the division 13 of the last 14 years. The NFL has the least parity of the 4 major sports. It isn't fun losing every year.

I don't give one shit who likes Tannehill or who doesn't.  My desire to move threads has literally nothing to do with that.  Nothing.  I don't care.  I don't care who hates Landry or who loves him either.  I love dissent.  I specifically look for it and promote moderators with differing opinions on sports and world views to promote a diversity of thinking.

I'm all about conversation and what stifles it vs. what promotes it.

Well don't look now, but the threads I've stared about Tannehill (good and bad) in the other forum are routinely the most viewed and the most responded to, and I'm respectful to everyone who responds in those threads, regardless of their viewpoints.

Now, is that promoting conversation, or stifling it?

Contrast that with what some of your moderators are doing here and elsewhere.

If you don't like it you are free to leave!

I'm strongly considering it. :)

It's just as (if not more) likely that the thing I bolded is the one constant.

If you think that isn't a possibility at all on forums in which the members desperately want to see one thing (Tannehill's success) and not another (his failure), you're delirious.

I regularly post in another Dolphins forum in which the majority of members, including the moderators, openly criticize Tannehill as holding the team back.  Never had problem one there.

I most definitely am NOT rooting for Tannihill to be successful.  What I am rooting for is intelligent discussion which has been drowned out by you hijacking every thread to claim 1) qb is the only position that matters and 2) Tannihill sucks.  Neither of which is true.  Quit hijacking threads.

Go to a patriots board then. There is no other discussion on this site. The threads aren't hijacked and they certainly don't need you cleaning them up lol

Did you miss the post I made above in this thread, with the series of links that addresses everything you said in the quote above?

This site will defend the qb at all costs even when it is blatantly obvious they aren't the answer. Look at this old thread about henne. http://www.thedolphinsmakemecry.com/forums/index.php?topic=19048.30

And that's fine, as long as posters and posts that criticize the QB are not treated any differently from the ones that laud him.

Again, this is why disrespect and personal attacks should be the grounds for taking action against posters, not whatever beliefs they're expressing they have about the team.

Dave Gray says he loves dissent and loves for discussion to be promoted.  The way you do that is by coming down only on disrespect and personal attacks (i.e., the stuff that really gets in the way of open discussion), not on people who are simply discussing the team, regardless of whatever it is they believe.

The moderators need to realize that if some people are rubbed the wrong way by what others believe, the people who are being rubbed the wrong way have the issue, not the person who believes whatever it is he does.

Sometimes you step on other people's feet, and other times other people's feet are just too damned big, and they need to get 'em out of the way. ;)

Imagine for example if I raised a stink here about how the site was just too damned positive about Ryan Tannehill, and every thread seemed to be "hijacked" into a view of supporting him, when we should really all be criticizing him.  How ridiculous would that be?

It's just as ridiculous to condemn any one person who does the opposite, who openly scrutinizes Tannehill amidst all the positivity, as long as that person is doing so respectfully and without personal attacks.

^I don't really care what you post on Tannehill.  I stopped reading your posts because they are incredibly boring and long winded.

You need to add a TL;DR at the end of each one.

That's a terrific remedy.  In fact I'd prefer there be an ignore function embedded in this site, so that folks like yourself wouldn't even know I existed.

There is a very narrow band of folks on any of these sites I prefer interacting with.  The rest can certainly tune me out. :)

Considered me tuned out then.  Bye Felicia.