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Title: 2017 Free Agency News
Post by: masterfins on March 08, 2017, 05:16:19 pm
Giants have reached an agreement with Brandon Marshall, 2 years/$12M.  The Jets, firmly in rebuilding mode, agreed to let Marshall go because he wanted to be on a playoff team.

Dallas will reportedly release Romo on Thursday and allow him to pick his own new team.  McCown being brought in for possible backup duties to Prescott.


Title: Re: 2017 Free Agency News
Post by: Phishfan on March 08, 2017, 05:17:51 pm
Dallas will reportedly release Romo on Thursday and allow him to pick his own new team. 

On the agreement it would not be an NFCE team.


Title: Re: 2017 Free Agency News
Post by: Sunstroke on March 09, 2017, 11:02:08 am
On the agreement it would not be an NFCE team.

He'll be starting for either Denver or Houston this season...take that to the bank. ;)





Title: Re: 2017 Free Agency News
Post by: Tenshot13 on March 09, 2017, 11:19:25 am
He'll be starting for either Denver or Houston this season...take that to the bank. ;)




I'd say 70% Denver/30% Houston.  No other team has a chance.


Title: Re: 2017 Free Agency News
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on March 09, 2017, 12:27:11 pm
On the agreement it would not be an NFCE team.

Not much of a condition, no reason for Romo to want to play for Eagles or Redskins, neither are ready to go far and Giants have their QB.


Title: Re: 2017 Free Agency News
Post by: Phishfan on March 09, 2017, 01:13:01 pm
The Eagles and Washington are also locked in for as long as Tony Romo has any gas in the tank.


Title: Re: 2017 Free Agency News
Post by: Spider-Dan on March 09, 2017, 01:16:45 pm
Then it should have been really easy for Romo to agree to.


Title: Re: 2017 Free Agency News
Post by: BuccaneerBrad on March 09, 2017, 02:15:40 pm
Bucs are closing in on Desean Jackson.   Great pickup as this team needs a speedy guy who can take the top off the defense


Title: Re: 2017 Free Agency News
Post by: Dolphster on March 09, 2017, 03:29:57 pm
Bucs are closing in on Desean Jackson.   Great pickup as this team needs a speedy guy who can take the top off the defense

He would pair nicely with Evans. 


Title: Re: 2017 Free Agency News
Post by: DaLittle B on March 09, 2017, 03:47:41 pm
@AdamSchefter: Stunner: Texans trade Brock Osweiler AND 2018 2nd-rd pick to CLEV for Browns to take Osweiler contract off Houston books, sources tell ESPN.

Not exactly "free agent",but a pretty big move I'd say....Romo possibility in Houston now seems a bit more plausible.


Title: Re: 2017 Free Agency News
Post by: Baba Booey on March 09, 2017, 04:14:49 pm
Browns win the day for buying a 2018 2nd round pick for $16 mill. And now they are saying they will probably cut Osweiler.  That really is a brilliant move by Cleveland


Title: Re: 2017 Free Agency News
Post by: Dolphster on March 09, 2017, 04:43:43 pm
I've seen it done in basketball, but I don't think I've ever really seen that done in football.  Apparently the Browns have a ridiculous amount of cap space that they probably weren't even going to use.  So essentially they are buying draft pick with money they didn't desperately need anyway.  That really is pretty brilliant.  But of course Cleveland being Cleveland they will probably still find a way to screw it up. 


Title: Re: 2017 Free Agency News
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on March 09, 2017, 04:51:39 pm
That is the craziest deal I have ever seen.  Brock + 2018 2nd + 2017 6th for 2017 4th.


Title: Re: 2017 Free Agency News
Post by: Baba Booey on March 09, 2017, 05:26:14 pm
Browns have TWO first round and TWO second round picks this year. Next year they have ONE first rounder and THREE second rounders.

If they want to trade for Garoppolo they have the picks to do it now and still have many picks left over.


Title: Re: 2017 Free Agency News
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on March 09, 2017, 07:40:36 pm
Browns have enough picks and cap space to do whatever they want.


Title: Re: 2017 Free Agency News
Post by: Phishfan on March 10, 2017, 09:20:17 am
Browns have enough picks and cap space to do whatever they want.

Except turn them into roster improvements that will make them a contender.


Title: Re: 2017 Free Agency News
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on March 10, 2017, 09:52:22 am
A Browns Brock jersey could become a rare collectible item.


Title: Re: 2017 Free Agency News
Post by: BuccaneerBrad on March 10, 2017, 03:19:05 pm
Except turn them into roster improvements that will make them a contender.

That's been the problem with Cleveland for years.   They can stockpile picks but they keep picking the wrong players and/or when they get the right ones, they can't coach them up properly.

Browns have enough picks and cap space to do whatever they want.

Cleveland offers you Osweiler and one of their threel second rounders for Garoppolo.  Do you pull the trigger on that deal?


Title: Re: 2017 Free Agency News
Post by: Phishfan on March 10, 2017, 03:29:19 pm
Cleveland offers you Osweiler and one of their threel second rounders for Garoppolo.  Do you pull the trigger on that deal?

No one takes on that contract.


Title: Re: 2017 Free Agency News
Post by: Pappy13 on March 10, 2017, 03:53:35 pm
Make it a 2 and something else as well and I would consider it. Only difference between Garrappolo and Osweiler is that one played for New England and 1 didn't.


Title: Re: 2017 Free Agency News
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on March 10, 2017, 04:21:36 pm


Cleveland offers you Osweiler and one of their threel second rounders for Garoppolo.  Do you pull the trigger on that deal?

No Browns offered #13 for Jimmy G.  I would take that.  BB wants #13 plus a conditional 2018. 

BO is not all that good so even if Browns picked up his entire salary he is of little value to NE, NE doesn't need a midrange experience backup to replace JG as a one year option. They need to draft someone to they can groom to complete with JB.


Title: Re: 2017 Free Agency News
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on March 10, 2017, 04:27:56 pm
Make it a 2 and something else as well and I would consider it. Only difference between Garrappolo and Osweiler is that one played for New England and 1 didn't.

One has 3 years of coaching by NE and knows NE's systems.  The other doesn't.  I am not giving that up for anything less than a first round pick.


Title: Re: 2017 Free Agency News
Post by: masterfins on March 10, 2017, 04:45:11 pm
I'd say 70% Denver/30% Houston.  No other team has a chance.

It's probably 90% Houston and 10% Denver for Romo now.  Once the Texans showed their cards by ditching Osweiller, Jerry held back releasing Romo and wants some compensation.  Denver says there is no way they are giving anything up for Romo.


Title: Re: 2017 Free Agency News
Post by: Spider-Dan on March 10, 2017, 05:22:21 pm
Cleveland offers you Osweiler and one of their threel second rounders for Garoppolo.  Do you pull the trigger on that deal?
This deal would be better formed as Osweiler and a 2nd for a pair of game-worn cleats autographed by Julian Edelman.

Brock's contract makes him worse than nothing, so you are doing the other team a favor by taking him.  In no circumstance should you give them a player of value (Garappolo)  in that trade.


Title: Re: 2017 Free Agency News
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on March 10, 2017, 06:56:28 pm
This deal would be better formed as Osweiler and a 2nd for a pair of game-worn cleats autographed by Julian Edelman.

Brock's contract makes him worse than nothing, so you are doing the other team a favor by taking him.  In no circumstance should you give them a player of value (Garappolo)  in that trade.

My understand is Browns can pay most of his salary before trading him. So Brown pay $13 million, new team pas $3 million and now he has value, probably worth a 2nd round pick to somebody.  But not NE, who doesn't need a one year stop gap vet.


Title: Re: 2017 Free Agency News
Post by: BuccaneerBrad on March 11, 2017, 05:53:47 am
My understand is Browns can pay most of his salary before trading him. So Brown pay $13 million, new team pas $3 million and now he has value, probably worth a 2nd round pick to somebody.  But not NE, who doesn't need a one year stop gap vet.

Here's my line of thinking.  You're going to lose Garoppolo anyway.   He wants to be a starter.  Why not get a guy who can serve as a true backup and pick up a pick in the process?  That pick can help to get Brady's eventual replacement in 2018


Title: Re: 2017 Free Agency News
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on March 11, 2017, 08:26:37 am
Here's my line of thinking.  You're going to lose Garoppolo anyway.   He wants to be a starter.  Why not get a guy who can serve as a true backup and pick up a pick in the process?  That pick can help to get Brady's eventual replacement in 2018

Patriots don't need a backup QB, they have JB.  They need an eventual replacement for Brady.  That replacement might be JB or JG or someone they draft, but it won't be BO.  BO is  a one year rental. 

I would trade JG for a first round pick or keep him, trading hum for BO makes zero sense. If Borowns absorb most of BO salary plus pick 13 for JG that would be worth it.


Title: Re: 2017 Free Agency News
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on April 18, 2017, 04:47:40 pm
Hmm...NE just signed a Bill RFA, unless the Bills match it will cost a 5th rounder, I am starting to wonder if Belichick has plans for that weekend, so he is trying to use up all the picks predraft.


Title: Re: 2017 Free Agency News
Post by: Baba Booey on April 18, 2017, 05:40:24 pm
I'm wondering why the Pats are signing so many RB's. Are they going to switch to a wishbone?

White
Burkhead
Lewis
Bolden
and now he wants to sign Gillsee

Not to mention he might bring back Blount.

Even if he cuts Bolden and let Blount walk he is carrying 4 RB's who are used to seeing playing time. Just don't get it, would think the money would be spent better elsewhere or just carry it over to next years cap.


Title: Re: 2017 Free Agency News
Post by: Phishfan on April 18, 2017, 06:22:29 pm
Even if he cuts Bolden and let Blount walk he is carrying 4 RB's who are used to seeing playing time. Just don't get it, would think the money would be spent better elsewhere or just carry it over to next years cap.

I'm not sure what your definition of used to seeing seeing playing time is but I don't think it applies to any of these guys on the roster now (I don't count Blount as I think they are looking to let him walk).

White = 73 carries over three years
Burkhead = 87 carries over three years
Lewis = 149 carries over five years
Bolden = 203 carries over five years

Gillislee would add a whopping 154 carries over three years


Title: Re: 2017 Free Agency News
Post by: Baba Booey on April 18, 2017, 06:36:55 pm
I'm not sure what your definition of used to seeing seeing playing time is but I don't think it applies to any of these guys on the roster now (I don't count Blount as I think they are looking to let him walk).

White = 73 carries over three years
Burkhead = 87 carries over three years
Lewis = 149 carries over five years
Bolden = 203 carries over five years

Gillislee would add a whopping 154 carries over three years

More than just carries its receptions too. Plus most teams only carry 3 RB's or 4 Top's. Either it takes 2 guys to replace Blount or he is just signing guys for the sake of signing them now and will cut them in camp. If he signs Gilesee and gives up a pick for him then you would have to believe he and Burkhead won't get cut. Lewis and White probably aren't getting cut. There is 4 there without a fullback who if they carry one would probably knock a RB off that list.