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There is a lot of hyperbole about worsts and I'm hearing Jordon being named by some as the worst bust in franchise history.

Where do you place him?

He is a top 10 bust, put I give John Avery top honors.

Why are you picking a fight with Brian?

Avery may have been a worse pick but I don't think a worse bust. Miami traded back in the draft to get Avery and up to get Jordan. That is the difference maker for me. Miami hasn't had a top 5 pick in my lifetime worse than Jordan. You can't blow those picks.

As resident Patriots troll, it is in the job description.  😀

He's definitely Top 5, along with David Overstreet & Yatil Green.

The Yes's are running away with this poll...

They weren't Top 3 picks in the entire draft so its not even close to being on the same level. Plus Green got hurt in the field of play (it happens). Jordan's issues were brought on himself

For good reason

I want to think that he's not, but I really can't think of a pick so high.

He busted horribly, but I think that the idea of the pick wasn't so bad.  The guy just couldn't get on the field.

The quintessential "what are you doing?" pick, for me, was Jamar Fletcher.  ...not because he was a bad player, but because we needed a franchise QB, Drew Brees was on the board, and we already had two starting Pro Bowl corners.

Shrugs shoulders....I'm not going to bash anyone for saying he is or isn't,nor do I care If he is or isn't at this point in time.

I just remember thinking that the draft that year was pretty terrible.

Even though Jordan was a #3 pick, I wasn't particularly excited about getting him.  So it's hard for me to think of him as the biggest bust in Dolphins history, when I never expected that much from him in the first place.

Even you guys trying to defend it haven't brought yourself to click "no" in the vote. The guy should be in the running for biggest NFL bust, not just Miami.

Jordan is Bosworthy

If you think a defensive end picked at #3 should be in the running for biggest NFL bust of all-time, I question your attentiveness to the NFL as a whole.

If we are going to talk about the biggest bust in the NFL in the 2013 draft, that's a more defensible claim.  Joeckel (picked at #2) was also terrible, and I'd argue that EJ Manuel and Geno Smith were bigger busts for BUF and NYJ than Jordan was for MIA.

If you're going to argue that higher pick necessarily equals bigger bust, then by definition Jordan cannot be the biggest NFL bust ever, and the only eligible Dolphins to be a bigger bust than him are LT Jake Long (2008 #1), RB Ronnie Brown (2005 #2), and QB Rick Norton (1966 #2).  And on that subject, it seems to me that Rick Norton would be a bigger bust; in his 4 years in MIA, he compiled a 1-10 record with a passer rating of 28.1.  So I clicked no in the poll.

If I'm speaking from the heart and defining "bust" as performance vs. expectations, I felt like The Ginn Family was my probably personal choice for biggest bust since I've been following the Dolphins.

I didn't vote...and probably wont either...I feel like the emotion of him just being released (yah no more Doin Jordan drama!),it's hard for me to quantify his career.Yeah he was a bust for the Dolphins, I'm not arguing he wasn't,I'm just un-sure if he's my choice for the biggest bust in Dolphins history.

Biggest bust of all time  ???,not even close.Kijana Carter, Jamracus Russell..there are lots of big busts.D. Jordan could pull a Tony Mandarich,and still catch on somewhere for a year or two even just as a depth guy at a minimum salary.

We never really depended on Dion Jordan. We drafted him and that same year O.Vernon stepped up,and we had Wake,then a bunch of guys who could fill in at DE (D.Shelby,T.Fede,etc.) We drafted him injured with a bum shoulder,then the suspensions,last year it was the knee,after being reinstated. Biggest bust in cost yeah, I get that,but as a few other guys mentioned...We all some other guys,that we feel are bigger busts because of what we needed,performance,etc,etc...

Dion Jordan 26 games 39 tkls,3 sacks http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/J/JordDi00.htm (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/J/JordDi00.htm)
Yatil green 8 games 18 rec 234 yrds http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GreeYa00.htm (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GreeYa00.htm)

I know we traded up to get Jordan,we didn't trade up for Greene...

Personally,I like hearing all ...So,and so always felt like a bigger bust to me....

Again, Green got injured ON THE FIELD. That happens to a lot of players, it isn't like Green got caught with hookers, coke, and a loaded gun in his car. Getting hurt playing has more to do with bad luck than anything. Jordan is a bust because he brought every bad thing on himself. It's unfair to compare the two at all.

Green tried, Green wanted to be an NFL player, he just got hurt and had bad luck. Jordan had no bad luck he just made bad life decisions.

I didn't know that a "bust" had to be a top 3 overall pick, nor that a "bust" could only be a "bust" if it is from non-football issues brought on by the player only.  Thanks for clarifying.

Anyone can be a bust.  But the higher they were drafted, the more that's expected of them, and the more that was spent to move up to get them, the bigger bust they are.


Sorry.  That honor belongs to Ryan Leaf or Jamarcus Russell.  No one can outdo what they did.

Missing the  entirepoint. It has nothing to do with being a Top 3 pick. Yatil Green got injured, that's not his fault. It happens in football. Yatil Green didn't go out of his way to get injured, it happens it's a rough sport. Is he a bust because he was a 1st round pick that didn't pan out, yes. But not even in the same solar system as Dion Jordan

Dion Jordan did drugs, tried to cheat, and didn't put in any effort after being drafted. That is a legit BUST on an entirely different level.  And if you can't see the difference then well, I don't know what to tell you.

So if a player tries really hard but is just terrible, does that make them less of a bust?
I don't follow that logic.

Was Ernie Davis a "bust"?

First overall pick, never played a down.

Less of a bust, yes!

Ryan Leaf, Dion Jordan, Tony Mandarich....druggies who didn't care and didn't try. Jamarcus Russell who eat himself out of the league. All MUCH bigger busts than Yatil Green.

Yatil Green is a bust with the caveat that he got hurt and it was out of his control. So, yes he is less of a bust then others.

No.  But if a player is injured, yes.  The job of a GM is to evaluate the player.  Draft a bum with no work ethic or who lacks moral character that is on the team, not bad luck.  Draft a guy who lacks the skills to play football that is on the team not bad luck.  Draft a hard working, talented guy who tears his ACL in training camp that is bad luck, unless you drafted a guy who missed much of college due to injury.

So Ki-Jana Carter, Tim Couch, and Courtney Brown are all lesser busts because they tried really hard?
Again, I don't agree.

You don't have to agree. You are entitled to believe anything you want no matter how wrong it is

No contest for me, definitely the biggest draft bust in Dolphins history.

I always got nervous when Ireland traded up to take someone, I think every time he did it turned into a bust - none as monumental as Dion Jordan. Trading away two picks to move up and get Daniel Thomas was horrible at the time (I would actually rank this as a worse result than the Sammie Smith pick in the Ring of Dishonor), and I remember him panicking and trading up for a corner in a later draft that also tuned into another bust.

Whenever he traded down or stayed put he seemed to be fine, Odrick, Davis, Pouncey, Tannehill, looking back they all seem be the right moves, and he did snag some lower round gems like Jones.

He is a Seahawk.

I like how the caption under Dion's picture reads: "Dion Jordan is joining the Seahawks after a lackluster Dolphins tenure."

um...no. Lackluster means that, well, it lacked luster. Lackluster does not mean that something was horrible and smelled like sour milk.

I saw that this morning.  I don't care where he goes as long as it is away from Miami. 

To the original question, as others have stated, I believe he is the biggest Dolphins bust because well, he sucks.  But also not only because the Dolphins traded up for him, but they traded all the way up to the 3rd pick for a guy that most people didn't have pegged to go in the top of the first round at all and a lot of them didn't have him going in the first round at all.  It was a perfect storm of horrible. 

He can't join an NFL team any further away.

CPOY.

I'm curious, what does CPOY mean?

I assume you weren't referring to College Photographer of the Year, nor Cosmetic Practice of the Year.

I would assume Hoodie means Comeback Player Of the Year

Bingo

 

John Beck, Pat White, Jonathan Martin, Sammie Smith, John Avery , Jason Allen , Yatil Green.... Jamar Fletcher ( could have gotten Chad Johnson or Reggie Wayne)


Tough List LOL