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Last year somewhere in the middle of the first round I selected Zeke with my first fantasy pick. This year I wouldn't even dream of it (even before the suspension).

Without any charges being brought up the NFL has handed down a six game suspension and Elliiott is sure to appeal. I personally think it is going to be reduced but I don't have a clue on what it will end up being. Thoughts?

Couldn't happen to a nicer organization... ;)

Zeke is a freak on the field, but an immature punk off it. I could be wrong, but I don't think he is the type that will change easily.

This is an organizational problem with the Cowboys, as much as it is a problem with Zeke.  But hey it's good they immediately dumped that guy that shoplifted $20 worth of items.  ::)

Zeke's lawyers and the NFL PA are gonna have a field day with this one.   Suspended for something he wasn't charged with??  Give me a break

^^^  Don't have to be charged with a criminal action to be suspended.  More of a civil court level where there just has to be a preponderance of evidence.  There's no denying he pulled that women's shirt down at the parade, it's on tape.  Granted this will be bargained down to two games once it goes before the arbiter.

Big Ben was. Suspended for 6 games he was never charged with a crime

This was what was being said prior to the craziness of the Bills trades,started rolling in,as the it was breaking.

@RapSheet: #Cowboys RB Zeke Elliott is suspended 6 games for a violation of the @NFL personal conduct policy. He has 3 days to appeal.

@RapSheet: In a letter to Elliott, NFL exec Todd Jones said there was “substantial and persuasive evidence” to show multiple incidents of violence.

Personally, They could suspend the entire Cowboys team for the season,for all I care.... :D Yep, I effin hate the Cowboys,and everything about them....

In a court of law you are innocent until proven guilty. No such luck with the NFL

Tom Brady was never even accused of a crime let alone charged.

Sean Payton was suspended for a season and he never broke the law.  Neither did Dion Jordan.

Let's not pretend that the only reason to ever suspend someone is criminal activity.

I'm not defending Zeke here but some of you guys are making comparisons that are way off base. Of course there are football related reasons for a suspension but Zeke was suspended for allegedly committing a crime without law enforcement charging him. Surely you can differentiate between that and having a suspension for conduct directly related to the field of play.

Ben Roethlisberger was suspended in a similar manner.  Ray Rice was suspended even though the charges were dropped.

Like it or not, the league office has willingly put themselves in the position of arbiter of morality.  The moment they decided to suspend Ben even though no charges were brought, they opened this door.  Now the league is no longer able to use law enforcement or the DA's office as a shield, and every incident in which they do not take action will be implicit endorsement.

It was dumb of them to head down this path, but they are already down it.  The only way to unring this bell is for the (pathetically weak) NFL players' union to negotiate the next CBA to require a conviction for the league to hand down suspensions for issues unrelated to competition.

as I stated before, talk to Big Ben

That is why I said some of you  guys and not all of you guys, you obviously were in a different grouping.

Just because law enforcement didn't charge Zeke with a crime doesn't mean they didn't think he committed a crime. It means they didn't think they could convict him of a crime based on the evidence they had. The NFL has a lot more resources then the Columbus police department. The NFL found out stuff the Columbus PD didn't and like I said, they don't have any burden of proof. Honestly I really don't know why you are defending Zeke (you are even if you say you aren't). His morals have been in question since he was in college and nothing has changed. I certainly don't know if he beat up his girl friend, but that's what she accused him of and he's done enough shady stuff that he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt from most people. Most in Dallas are already coming to the realization that he is a bad apple. They're not ready to throw him out yet, but they realize that day will come. Below is a laudry list of Zeke's transgressions and these are all within the last 1 to 2 years.

1) Excessive drinking and partying.
2) Hitting his girlfriend on multiple occasions.
3) Exposing another girlfriend's breast in public.
4) Walking into an establishment that sold marijuana.
5) Ticketed for speeding in excess of 100 MPH.
6) Punched a DJ in the face in a bar.

That's more trouble than most players get into in a career let alone their rookie season.

Because I'm not. I'm defending people attacking Buccaneer's statement with unrelated examples. If you can't see that difference, you are inferring something I did not mean to imply (and explicitly said I was not doing).

You're exact quote was "Of course there are football related reasons for a suspension but Zeke was suspended for allegedly committing a crime without law enforcement charging him."

How is that not defending him?

Because I said it is not. You are just being argumentative now. I said twice I am not defending him (he should be suspended based on what I think has happened and on NFL history). If that is not enough for you then the problem is on you and not me. At this point I think it might be a little ridiculous to continue with you because you cannot comprehend when I explicitly explained once (and stated twice) that I am not defending Zeke. But I will continue and spell it out even more in case it can get through after three attempts.  BuccaneerBrad made a statement about a suspension not being NFL game play related but lawfully related (not his exact words but definitely implied and understood given the topic at hand) and a few responses came back regarding NFL game play related suspensions. I was simply pointing out that those comparisons are not comparable (the Roethlisberger one is). I hope you can understand at this point the difference between defending a member's position (whether I agree or not) and defending an action that was the topic of the thread.

If you can't understand that, I can't make it any clearer and will redirect your complaints about the subject to Buccaneer because it is actually his position and not mine.

Looks like Zekes camp and the NFLPA just fired a salvo.  They've filed suit against the NFL

That's just insurance policy in case they don't drop the suspension. If they lower it to 2 games or something he'll probably drop the lawsuit and take his 2 games. If they keep the 6 games in place they just tie it up in courts so he doesn't have to lose games this year. If it goes to court he has a good chance of winning. The NFL and Zeke both want this to just go away, the question is what's the right number of games for both sides to claim victory.

Just as an update on this, the NFL's lead investigator had recommended that Zeke not be suspended due to inconsistencies in the alleged victim's statements (the same reason law enforcement didn't bring charges).  Goodell ignored her recommendation and suspended him anyway.

He is a super villain. Ezekiel will take this to the Supreme Court if he has to, so the NFL should just bend the knee and offer a 1 game suspension.

I'm sure Hoodie will agree with me, the NFL arbitrator upheld Zeke's suspension, but...he didn't issue it until after 4 pm, therefore the suspension won't start until week #2.  Which means Zeke will get to play week #1 against the Giants in a game anticipated to have high TV ratings.

The arbitrator had asked the NFL, prior to the hearing last week, if they would agree to wait with implementing any suspension until week 2, apparently since he was not sure when he would actually issue the ruling. The NFL agreed to this, so the timing of the ruling did not matter at all.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000839569/article/ezekiel-elliotts-6game-ban-upheld-will-play-vs-giants