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Title: Dolphins/Bucs Possibly Moved
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on September 05, 2017, 02:18:55 pm
The game is set to take place when that massive hurricane is going to hit, so the NFL is still deciding whether to move the location or have the game take place on each team's bye weeks. As luck would have it, they both have a Week 11 bye week.

Obviously, moving it to a neutral stadium is the best call. Taking away their bye weeks would be a disaster and a major disadvantage.


Title: Re: Dolphins/Bucs Posisbly Moved
Post by: DaLittle B on September 05, 2017, 04:35:08 pm
Official statement, it wont be played in Miami At it's regularly scheduled time....They've not yet decided when,and where we will play
https://twitter.com/NFLfootballinfo/status/905166184697536512 (https://twitter.com/NFLfootballinfo/status/905166184697536512)

and a few tweets saying as much...
@AdamSchefter: Dolphins home game vs. Buccaneers, originally scheduled for Sunday at 1 p.m. ET at Hard Rock Stadium, will not be played in Miami on Sunday.


Neutral site, or Play during our Bye weeks.


Title: Re: Dolphins/Bucs Posisbly Moved
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on September 05, 2017, 04:48:20 pm

Obviously, moving it to a neutral stadium is the best call. Taking away their bye weeks would be a disaster and a major disadvantage.

Moving it to nuetral site will cost the nfl revenue as they wil have to refund tickets and sell the others at a discount.  Moving to week 11 won't affect $$$. My bet NFL cares more about money than the competitive problem with losing the bye.


Title: Re: Dolphins/Bucs Posisbly Moved
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on September 05, 2017, 05:08:04 pm
Moving it to nuetral site will cost the nfl revenue as they wil have to refund tickets and sell the others at a discount.  Moving to week 11 won't affect $$$. My bet NFL cares more about money than the competitive problem with losing the bye.

Sadly, I agree with you there. They would have them play in the Hurricane if they thought they could get away with it.


Title: Re: Dolphins/Bucs Posisbly Moved
Post by: Baba Booey on September 05, 2017, 08:08:01 pm
Moving it to nuetral site will cost the nfl revenue as they wil have to refund tickets and sell the others at a discount.  Moving to week 11 won't affect $$$. My bet NFL cares more about money than the competitive problem with losing the bye.

Totally wrong and your "stance" is backed up by nothing. Bills-Jets game was moved to Detroit. Saints played at home game in New York after Katrina. The NFL will do what is right they won't let $$$ dictate when and where the game is moved.


Title: Re: Dolphins/Bucs Posisbly Moved
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on September 05, 2017, 08:35:43 pm
Totally wrong and your "stance" is backed up by nothing. Bills-Jets game was moved to Detroit. Saints played at home game in New York after Katrina. The NFL will do what is right they won't let $$$ dictate when and where the game is moved.

Saints in NJ was not neutral.  It was sold out at full price.  If they had move the Saints Giants game to Huston it would have been much fairer to the saints but the NFL would not have made as much money.

Bills Jets didn't have a bye week option. 

Maybe the NFL will do the right thing, but I am not counting on it.



Title: Re: Dolphins/Bucs Posisbly Moved
Post by: Baba Booey on September 05, 2017, 09:21:31 pm
Saints in NJ was not neutral.  It was sold out at full price.  If they had move the Saints Giants game to Huston it would have been much fairer to the saints but the NFL would not have made as much money.

Bills Jets didn't have a bye week option. 

Maybe the NFL will do the right thing, but I am not counting on it.



FAKE NEWS! You completely changed your tune from the original post and changed your stance with this last post. Whatever.

Latest report out of ESPN is NFL looking at Pittsburgh and Philly as site for this weeks game between Mia-TB


Title: Re: Dolphins/Bucs Possibly Moved
Post by: Fau Teixeira on September 05, 2017, 09:48:24 pm
it's not fake news if you don't agree with his opinion


Title: Re: Dolphins/Bucs Possibly Moved
Post by: Baba Booey on September 06, 2017, 05:46:35 am
it's not fake news if you don't agree with his opinion

It's not an opinion he presented wrong facts (aka Fake News.) Bills/Jets moved to Detroit wasn't for $$$.  The whole premise of his stance was false


Title: Re: Dolphins/Bucs Possibly Moved
Post by: fyo on September 06, 2017, 06:40:14 am
It's not an opinion he presented wrong facts (aka Fake News.) Bills/Jets moved to Detroit wasn't for $$$.  The whole premise of his stance was false

Could you please point out the incorrect "facts" that Hoodie presented? I'm having a problem finding them.

In fact, your entire fake news post appears completely unhinged. Are you referring to posts or opinions by Hoodie not presented in this thread?

"You completely changed your tune from the original post and changed your stance with this last post."

There don't seem to be any inconsistencies between Hoodie's two posts. You can argue he is wrong in his conclusions / opinions or that he has his facts wrong, but it would be nice if, particularly in the case of the latter, you would substantiate your claims.

Thanks.


Title: Re: Dolphins/Bucs Possibly Moved
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on September 06, 2017, 07:15:25 am
No, bill jets weren't moved to Detroit for money. But because they didn't have an alternative.  However when the NFL has two options, such as play NYG NO in Huston or NY they have a history of choosing the one that produces the most revenue.  That is a FACT.  It is my opinion that they will likely choose a similar solution this time.


Title: Re: Dolphins/Bucs Possibly Moved
Post by: DZA on September 06, 2017, 08:39:32 am
Hey you guys be safe down there. Moved from miami in 1997, being in the Army I've been around. Now living in South Carolina, you wont beleive how many Dolphans are up here. Anyways, I was around for Andrew in 1992, boy what a disaster.  God bless and Fins up !!


Title: Re: Dolphins/Bucs Possibly Moved
Post by: Baba Booey on September 06, 2017, 09:50:34 am
Game was pushed back to Week 11. No bye week now

#PrayForFlorida


Title: Re: Dolphins/Bucs Possibly Moved
Post by: Phishfan on September 06, 2017, 09:52:39 am
It sucks to lose the bye week. I'd much rather have had the game played on schedule at a neutral site.


Title: Re: Dolphins/Bucs Possibly Moved
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on September 06, 2017, 10:11:34 am
Game was pushed back to Week 11. No bye week now

#PrayForFlorida

As I predicted for the reasons I gave.


Title: Re: Dolphins/Bucs Possibly Moved
Post by: DaLittle B on September 06, 2017, 10:47:43 am
I actually like the idea Armando Salguero is suggesting (but agree I can't see the NFL doing it,I'd imagine it means refunding tickets already sold,etc,etc).Instead of the Dolphins Playing in London against the Saints,moving the game back to Miami,giving us 8 home games.
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article171486902.html (http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article171486902.html)


Title: Re: Dolphins/Bucs Possibly Moved
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on September 06, 2017, 11:25:51 am
I actually like the idea Armando Salguero is suggesting (but agree I can't see the NFL doing it,I'd imagine it means refunding tickets already sold,etc,etc).Instead of the Dolphins Playing in London against the Saints,moving the game back to Miami,giving us 8 home games.
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article171486902.html (http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article171486902.html)

Don't see that happening.  And does said proposal include reopening the bid process for the Super Bowl LIV? 


Title: Re: Dolphins/Bucs Possibly Moved
Post by: Baba Booey on September 06, 2017, 11:31:30 am
As I predicted for the reasons I gave.

Please you said NFL will only do things for money. Then when I threw Jets-Bills in your face you flip-flopped and said that wasn't moved there for money and backpedaled. Like a certain politician you took every side of the issue then when whatever happened you claimed victory. Whatever, this will just go back and forth forever as you won't admit you flip-flopped. Unless you want to keep the back and forth going I'm willing to drop it.


Title: Re: Dolphins/Bucs Possibly Moved
Post by: Baba Booey on September 06, 2017, 11:31:54 am
Don't see that happening.  And does said proposal include reopening the bid process for the Super Bowl LIV? 

Miami has a 3 or 4 year window to play a game in London. It didn't have to be this year

#Facts


Title: Re: Dolphins/Bucs Possibly Moved
Post by: Baba Booey on September 06, 2017, 11:33:51 am
I actually like the idea Armando Salguero is suggesting (but agree I can't see the NFL doing it,I'd imagine it means refunding tickets already sold,etc,etc).Instead of the Dolphins Playing in London against the Saints,moving the game back to Miami,giving us 8 home games.
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article171486902.html (http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article171486902.html)

It makes sense but will never happen. Too much money tied up in that London game right now. Plus they want to move a team over there full time soon and pulling this game will kill the London market and upset a fan base the NFL wants right now.


Title: Re: Dolphins/Bucs Possibly Moved
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on September 06, 2017, 11:34:20 am
Please you said NFL will only do things for money. Then when I threw Jets-Bills in your face you flip-flopped and said that wasn't moved there for money and backpedaled. Like a certain politician you took every side of the issue then when whatever happened you claimed victory. Whatever, this will just go back and forth forever as you won't admit you flip-flopped. Unless you want to keep the back and forth going I'm willing to drop it.

I didn't back peddle.  I said that when the NFL has a choice of doing two things they will choose the one that makes them the most money over the option that creates the fairest/best situation.  The example you have they didn't have an option of getting rid of the bye week, it was too late in the season for any other option.


Title: Re: Dolphins/Bucs Possibly Moved
Post by: Baba Booey on September 06, 2017, 11:37:09 am
I didn't back peddle.  I said that when the NFL has a choice of doing two things they will choose the one that makes them the most money over the option that creates the fairest/best situation.  The example you have they didn't have an option of getting rid of the bye week, it was too late in the season for any other option.

Playing the game in NYC (and screwing over the Bills) would have been the most money. The NFL had an option they didn't take the money option they went to Detroit.


Title: Re: Dolphins/Bucs Possibly Moved
Post by: masterfins on September 06, 2017, 12:30:44 pm
All things considered I think they made the right move.  I hate to see the Dolphins lose the mid year bye, especially after returning from London; but having them play this week's game at another site would have been a big headache.  Not to mention the players and all the staff worrying about their homes and families.

Stay safe Floridians.