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Title: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: Baba Booey on October 04, 2017, 06:28:57 pm
https://deadspin.com/cam-newton-to-reporter-its-funny-to-hear-a-female-tal-1819154956?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

This Cam Newton is the biggest piece of garbage in the NFL. What he did today to the female reporter is so disrespectful its not even funny. Hope the NFL suspends him.


Title: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: Phishfan on October 04, 2017, 10:49:16 pm
I started a new thread as this should have it's own discussion rather than rehash one that is so out of date.


Title: Re: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: fyo on October 05, 2017, 05:48:03 am
I'm always surprised star players don't have a "PC filter", where they will just revert to saying basically nothing whenever anything remotely non-PC comes up.

Regarding this Cam stuff... just stupid. You KNOW he's going to have to walk it back. I wouldn't expect any sincerity, though. Let's say a non-apology apology. Start off by apologizing and saying how much he respects women, women who cover sports, perhaps even this reporter in particular (though probably not). Then follow that with a diatribe on how he was misunderstood and that he really didn't mean anything by what he said.

Worst case, he'll shove the whole thing on the Panthers' PR department and there will just be a written statement given to the press, but without Newton ever having been involved in the wording or any of it.

The statement should be out by noon today.


Title: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on October 05, 2017, 11:23:51 am
What he said was sexist, no question about it.  But lets put things in perspective..........

It is considerably less sexist than the pussy grabbing comments made by the POTUS.   

It is less offensive than what Payton Manning did to Naughright.

It is not nearly as offensive as what Mowatt, Timpson, and Perryman did to Lisa Olson.

It is not nearly as offensive as what Brett Farve did to Christina Scavo and Shannon O'Toole. 

 


Title: Re: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: Tenshot13 on October 05, 2017, 11:47:43 am
What he said was sexist, no question about it.  But lets put things in perspective..........

It is considerably less sexist than the pussy grabbing comments made by the POTUS.   

It is less offensive than what Payton Manning did to Naughright.

It is not nearly as offensive as what Mowatt, Timpson, and Perryman did to Lisa Olson.

It is not nearly as offensive as what Brett Farve did to Christina Scavo and Shannon O'Toole. 

 

No perspective about it.  He was a sexist ass and got called out for it.  Guy has a record of unsavory incidents going back to college.  Let's not take very loose examples of incidents that happened off camera and compare them to an incident during an interview.


Title: Re: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: Spider-Dan on October 05, 2017, 11:47:53 am
He feebly tried to walk it back by saying that it's funny to hear "any reporter" talk about routes.  Too little, too late.

I'm always surprised star players don't have a "PC filter", where they will just revert to saying basically nothing whenever anything remotely non-PC comes up.
This wasn't even an instance of something "non-PC" coming up.  The reporter asked him about the route running of one of his receivers, and he willingly dove into the briar patch by just saying “It’s funny to hear a female talk about routes” out of nowhere.


Title: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: Baba Booey on October 05, 2017, 12:09:52 pm
This morning all of the companies that use Cam as their "pitch man" on TV and Radio commercials and such are dropping him. He is losing all of his endorsement deals this morning and losing a ton of money over this. Love to see that!!


Title: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: masterfins on October 05, 2017, 01:17:17 pm
The world is ever evolving, and Cam is about two decades behind.  Just another example of his immaturity.


Title: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on October 05, 2017, 02:28:42 pm
While he is a dick, I can't bring myself to even care about it for more than 2 minutes. Professional athletes, especially football players being dicks is not newsworthy. The female reporter was not hurt in any way. Pissed off? Sure. Destroyed emotionally? Only if she has mental problems. She may even get some notoriety out of it.


Title: Re: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: Tenshot13 on October 05, 2017, 02:54:09 pm
While he is a dick, I can't bring myself to even care about it for more than 2 minutes. Professional athletes, especially football players being dicks is not newsworthy. The female reporter was not hurt in any way. Pissed off? Sure. Destroyed emotionally? Only if she has mental problems. She may even get some notoriety out of it.
I don't like Cam Newton, so this is just icing on the cake for me.


Title: Re: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on October 05, 2017, 03:53:52 pm
I don't like Cam Newton, so this is just icing on the cake for me.

Neither do I. I defended him the whole season when they went 15-1 and the media hated him but he was a great role model and leader.....until the Superbowl when he couldn't even be bothered to dive for a fumble and just gave up. Now, he is back to being an asshole.

I just can't feign outrage that in a league filled with rapists and murderers a bunch of words is supposed to be a scandal.


Title: Re: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: fyo on October 06, 2017, 01:49:06 am
In a move that surprises absolutely no one, Cam made his non-apology apology. He regrets his choice of words, did not intend to be disrespectful and sincerely apologizes if you are a person who took offense, then he sincerely apologizes to you. Call me jaded, but I'm not completely sold on his sincerity, but the wording of the apology was better than I had expected. If course, if he'd issued the apology by noon, he might not have lost as much money on it....

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20928510/cam-newton-carolina-panthers-apologizes-response-female-reporter


Title: Re: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: Tenshot13 on October 06, 2017, 07:25:35 am
In a move that surprises absolutely no one, Cam made his non-apology apology. He regrets his choice of words, did not intend to be disrespectful and sincerely apologizes if you are a person who took offense, then he sincerely apologizes to you. Call me jaded, but I'm not completely sold on his sincerity, but the wording of the apology was better than I had expected. If course, if he'd issued the apology by noon, he might not have lost as much money on it....

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20928510/cam-newton-carolina-panthers-apologizes-response-female-reporter
I'll give him credit on the apology, it was a bit more sincere than I've seen others in the past.


Title: Re: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: fyo on October 06, 2017, 08:21:12 am
I'll give him credit on the apology, it was a bit more sincere than I've seen others in the past.

I wish he would have left out the whining about losing sponsors. On the other hand, any decent publicist would have had him steer clear of that, so it does add some authenticity. I'd rather have a mediocre apology directly from the person involved than a perfect one that's completely scripted.


Title: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on October 06, 2017, 02:56:57 pm
I can sorta emphasize with Cam. In general I have very little respect for sports reporters with no playing or coaching experience in the sport they are reporting on this is true if the reporter is male or female.  However in most cases male reporters have played football at minimum at the high school level and often at the college level.  Female reporters rarely if ever have played tackle football.

I respect Rebbeca Lobbo's comments on the NBA, but not Erin Andrews.  In Cam's sport there are no Rebbeca Lobbos only Erin Andrews.


Title: Re: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: Spider-Dan on October 06, 2017, 03:17:09 pm
I can sorta emphasize with Cam. In general I have very little respect for sports reporters with no playing or coaching experience in the sport they are reporting on this is true if the reporter is male or female.
Bob Costas, Bryant Gumbel, Al Michaels, Marv Albert, Joe Buck... none of these guys have pro or even college experience playing the sports they cover, and yet they are at the top of their profession.

Peter Gammons, John Clayton, Adam Schefter, David Aldridge... the list goes on and on.  The idea that you have to have played a sport to be good at covering it is at odds with the careers of many top sports journalists and broadcasters.


Title: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on October 06, 2017, 04:04:16 pm
^^^^ And for the most part I have zero interest in hearing them discussing technical aspects of the game such as routes.  I would much rather hear from the likes of Marino or Grugan.


Title: Re: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: Spider-Dan on October 06, 2017, 05:41:18 pm
I'd rather listen to John Clayton than Trent Dilfer on any aspect of football.


Title: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: EKnight on October 07, 2017, 10:10:32 am
This morning all of the companies that use Cam as their "pitch man" on TV and Radio commercials and such are dropping him. He is losing all of his endorsement deals this morning and losing a ton of money over this. Love to see that!!

All of them? Really? Dannon yogurt is the only sponsor he lost, from what I saw.



Title: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: Phishfan on October 07, 2017, 10:36:01 am
I can sorta emphasize with Cam. In general I have very little respect for sports reporters with no playing or coaching experience in the sport they are reporting on this is true if the reporter is male or female.  However in most cases male reporters have played football at minimum at the high school level and often at the college level.  Female reporters rarely if ever have played tackle football.

I respect Rebbeca Lobbo's comments on the NBA, but not Erin Andrews.  In Cam's sport there are no Rebbeca Lobbos only Erin Andrews.

Wow. This is ridiculous.


Title: Re: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: masterfins on October 08, 2017, 04:14:12 pm
Bob Costas, Bryant Gumbel, Al Michaels, Marv Albert, Joe Buck... none of these guys have pro or even college experience playing the sports they cover, and yet they are at the top of their profession.

Peter Gammons, John Clayton, Adam Schefter, David Aldridge... the list goes on and on.  The idea that you have to have played a sport to be good at covering it is at odds with the careers of many top sports journalists and broadcasters.

+1


Title: Re: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: Dave Gray on October 09, 2017, 10:34:40 am
I feel a little bit sorry for guys like Cam Newton.  He's totally wrong in his views, probably a third of the country thinks stupid shit like this -- they just don't have a microphone in their face.  They likely come from a place where the people around them agree with stuff like this and so it's just an echo-chamber of ignorance.  And then they're in big cities and have to talk off-the-cuff.

I just think about my dumbass friends growing up and what it would be like if they had to give a press conference and answer questions once a week.

...doesn't excuse what Cam said, but I think it's good to let him learn from this stuff and kinda reform his views, rather than just blacklist him and call him a shithead for the rest of his existence.


Title: Re: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: Tenshot13 on October 09, 2017, 10:40:59 am


...doesn't excuse what Cam said, but I think it's good to let him learn from this stuff and kinda reform his views, rather than just blacklist him and call him a shithead for the rest of his existence.

He already did that before these most recent comments.


Title: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: Baba Booey on October 25, 2017, 03:59:29 pm
The Big Crybaby Cam Newton strikes again. Asked a totally fair question by a male reporter today and he walked out of the press conference after rolling his eyes.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2740682-cam-newton-leaves-press-conference-abruptly-when-asked-about-chunk-plays

This guy is such a loser and scumbag it isn't even funny. I'm sure we will see a BS apology within 24-48 hours that won't be sincere at all once again.


Title: Re: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: Tenshot13 on October 25, 2017, 04:09:50 pm
The Big Crybaby Cam Newton strikes again. Asked a totally fair question by a male reporter today and he walked out of the press conference after rolling his eyes.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2740682-cam-newton-leaves-press-conference-abruptly-when-asked-about-chunk-plays

This guy is such a loser and scumbag it isn't even funny. I'm sure we will see a BS apology within 24-48 hours that won't be sincere at all once again.
What a baby


Title: Re: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: Baba Booey on October 25, 2017, 06:37:06 pm
What a baby

Adam Schein of CBS Sports ripped Cam apart and calls for the firing of the Panthers coach and GM for enabling Cam. Plus he calls Newton's season of 2 years ago a fluke (which it clearly was)

https://twitter.com/CBSSportsNet/status/923314766793154562


Title: Re: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: Spider-Dan on October 25, 2017, 07:19:48 pm
I don't know why more players don't go the Bill Belichick/Marshawn Lynch route and just stonewall these questions.  They are largely a waste of time.

"Do you think you guys have the wherewithal to [make big plays] consistently, week in and week out?"

That's a clown question, bro.  What do you expect him to say... no?


Title: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on October 26, 2017, 05:03:24 am
So it isn't sexism, it is Cam doesn't like moronic questions from the media. 


Title: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: Baba Booey on October 26, 2017, 07:30:23 am
So it isn't sexism, it is Cam doesn't like moronic questions from the media. 

That isn't a moronic question. That is a very fair question especially coming off a bad game vs the Bears. You want to be a QB, make the big bucks, be the "superstar" ....sit there and answer the questions. Even if you think its a bad question it wasn't that bad a question ok. Lots of players don't enjoy talking to the media but they don't laugh at female reporters or go running away like a baby. GROW UP!!!!!!!! GROW UP!!!

If he can't handle the pressure of the "media"....it's not a shock on the field he can't handle pressure moments on the field in games.


Title: Re: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: Spider-Dan on October 26, 2017, 11:20:35 am
That question was worthless.

"Hey, do you think you guys can be good all of the time, instead of just some of the time?"


Title: Re: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: Tenshot13 on October 26, 2017, 11:24:17 am
That question was worthless.

"Hey, do you think you guys can be good all of the time, instead of just some of the time?"
When they are sucking, that is a legit question to ask.  If someone asked the same question to Cutler, would it be worthless?  "Hey Cutler, you're throwing check downs that aren't working, but recently big chuck plays are, can we expect to see more of that?"


Title: Re: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: CF DolFan on October 26, 2017, 11:38:22 am
That question was worthless.

"Hey, do you think you guys can be good all of the time, instead of just some of the time?"
I think it's a valid question although not one I'd ask. He said you've made big plays that lifted the team and asked if he thinks the team is good enough to be more consistent in doing that.

"Big plays, big chunk plays, kind of get to that energy I think that you were talking about," a reporter asked. "Does this offense — I know you had several in Detroit and New England — do you think you guys have the wherewithal to do that consistently, week in and week out?"


Title: Re: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: Spider-Dan on October 26, 2017, 11:45:37 am
When they are sucking, that is a legit question to ask.  If someone asked the same question to Cutler, would it be worthless?  "Hey Cutler, you're throwing check downs that aren't working, but recently big chuck plays are, can we expect to see more of that?"
That's at least a strategy question.  Many teams prefer to use short passes as an offensive strategy.

The question asked to Cam was whether or not Cam thinks the offense can consistently make chunk plays.  That's rapidly approaching "Do you think you guys can make the playoffs this year?" territory.


Title: Re: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on October 26, 2017, 11:57:42 am
"Do you think you guys can make the playoffs this year?" territory.

What’s that? Ah — Playoffs? Don’t talk about — playoffs? You kidding me? Playoffs? I just hope we can win a game! Another game.

But (and yes, I am biased) but Belichick handles these questions best.

Answer every question with one of the following:

-We are going to do what we feel puts us in the best position to win.
-We are onto <next opponent >
-We need to improve every aspect of our game, we need to coach better, play call better, execute better.


Title: Re: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: Tenshot13 on October 26, 2017, 12:43:43 pm
That's at least a strategy question.  Many teams prefer to use short passes as an offensive strategy.

The question asked to Cam was whether or not Cam thinks the offense can consistently make chunk plays.  That's rapidly approaching "Do you think you guys can make the playoffs this year?" territory.
Neither of which warrant a dick response and walking off and crying like a entitled baby instead of being a professional.


Title: Re: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: Spider-Dan on October 26, 2017, 01:54:51 pm
I agree.  That's why I originally said that Cam should be going the Belichick route and stonewalling these knucklehead questions.


Title: Re: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: Tenshot13 on October 26, 2017, 01:56:16 pm
I agree.  That's why I originally said that Cam should be going the Belichick route and stonewalling these knucklehead questions.
I'd be okay with that.  I'm not even that upset with his "next question" comment.  It was him walking off in the middle like that coming off pretentious.


Title: Re: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: Baba Booey on October 26, 2017, 04:02:12 pm
That question was worthless.

"Hey, do you think you guys can be good all of the time, instead of just some of the time?"

Even if I agree that the question is worthless.....SO WHAT? It give's this overgrown baby the right to walk out? Other players stand in front of the media and answer far worse questions and do their job. Act like a professional. Do not act like a baby! Yet Cam Newton and his sense of entitlement thinks its ok to just walk away and pout like a little league kid who just lost and is gonna cry about it. Give me a break. Cam is paid a lot of money to be a PROFESSIONAL and part of that is having to answer media questions, dumb's ones and good ones. And we can debate if that question is dumb or not, but even if it was dumb it wasn't a bad or insulting question in any way and Cam could have just answered it. Or stood there and not answered it but the one thing he can't do is go running away.

Cam is so immature and childish its not even funny. It's why he crumbles in big moments on the field. As I said if you can't take the pressure of the media it's no wonder he folds on the field in big spots.


Title: Re: Re: Cam Newton and Female Reporter
Post by: fyo on October 26, 2017, 04:31:00 pm
Cam is so immature and childish its not even funny.

I disagree. He's clearly childish enough to be funny. Anyone adult childish, and not in a position of power,  is funny.