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Title: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: DaLittle B on April 04, 2018, 01:30:56 pm
So it's that time of year post combine,trades,rumors,and Mock drafts coming out....

The Miami Dolphins currently have
Round 1 Pick 11
Round 2 Pick 10 (42)
Round 3 Pick 9 (73)
Round 4 Pick 23(123) CAR > CLE > MIA
Round 4 Pick 31 (131) NE > PHI > MIA
Round 6 Pick 35 (209) Compensatory - LA > KC > MIA
Round 7 Pick 9 (227) SF > MIA
Round 7 Pick 11 (229)
As of this,according to NFL.com draft tracker.

Who do you want the Dolphins to draft? Who do you want them to avoid? Trades?

Then Who do you think we'll draft?


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on April 04, 2018, 01:33:50 pm
Dolphins trade up and take Joseph Davidson, Bowling Green 8th overall 😈😈😈😈


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on April 04, 2018, 01:51:47 pm
If a QB is still available at 11, field offers from other teams as our top choice. If not, take the best player available. We are short on talent in many different areas. Ideally, I would like to trade down and get an extra first rounder. I'm fine with Tanny, I don't believe any QB available to us will make up for our talent deficiencies elsewhere.


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: masterfins on April 04, 2018, 02:31:56 pm
Since the team has loaded up on used O-lineman and a used QB, they are in a perfect position to draft a kicker in the first round; and they need a long snapper replacement (not sure how many seasons Denney has in him).

In all seriousness I see them loading up on defensive players, which wouldn't be a terrible thing.  Then those guys could get a good year of experience, the team would suck enough on offense to only win 3 or 4 games, and next year the Dolphins could go after their franchise QB (because Tanny will have another injury - and Osweiller will throw multiple pick 6's).


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: Pappy13 on April 04, 2018, 03:01:05 pm
I'd really like to see them get a LB at 11, but feel like the top 2 may be gone so that may not happen. I wouldn't be surprised if not as many QB's are taken in the first 5 picks as are being projected. Everyone seems to fall in love with them before the draft then they seem to fall during the draft. I wouldn't be surprised to see one of the top 4 QB's available at 11, however unless it just happens to be one that Gase really likes, I don't see him taking a QB.  I truly believe he's ok with going into this season with Tannehill and Osweiler as his QB's. He might take one later in the draft to groom, but not here. So who that leaves is anyone's guess, most likely a defensive player, but not sure which one.


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: Dolphster on April 04, 2018, 03:50:39 pm
I've been spending a lot of time researching the draft (because I'm a nerd like that).  I would be delighted with either Roquan Smith or Tremaine Edmunds (fun fact, his dad was Dolphins TE Ferrell Edmunds), but a lot of mock drafts are showing them both gone by the the 11th pick.  OLB is their biggest need and there is a significant dropoff in LB talent after Smith and Edmunds so I would be really bummed if they are both gone.  Second most pressing need is TE and I would love to see them get Hayden Hurst in the 2nd or 3rd round.  Most complete TE in the draft in terms of being a receiver and a blocker.  I would be one happy camper if they got Smith or Edmunds in the 1st round, Hayden Hurst in the 2nd round, and Auburn Guard Braden Smith in the 3rd round.  If Luke Falk is still around in the 4th round, go ahead and roll the dice and spend that pick on the Washington State QB.


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: masterfins on April 05, 2018, 01:14:58 am
I've been spending a lot of time researching the draft (because I'm a nerd like that).  I would be delighted with either Roquan Smith or Tremaine Edmunds (fun fact, his dad was Dolphins TE Ferrell Edmunds), but a lot of mock drafts are showing them both gone by the the 11th pick.  OLB is their biggest need and there is a significant dropoff in LB talent after Smith and Edmunds so I would be really bummed if they are both gone.  Second most pressing need is TE and I would love to see them get Hayden Hurst in the 2nd or 3rd round.  Most complete TE in the draft in terms of being a receiver and a blocker.  I would be one happy camper if they got Smith or Edmunds in the 1st round, Hayden Hurst in the 2nd round, and Auburn Guard Braden Smith in the 3rd round.  If Luke Falk is still around in the 4th round, go ahead and roll the dice and spend that pick on the Washington State QB.

I like the idea of a big TE that can both block and catch the ball.  Funny thing about draft projections is that between the top analysts there are 50 or 60 guys that are projected to go in the first round, add to that the handful of picks that some teams will make that aren't even included in that 50 or 60, and the Dolphins have two potential first round picks.


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: masterfins on April 05, 2018, 01:19:45 am
I'd really like to see them get a LB at 11, but feel like the top 2 may be gone so that may not happen.


Just a question, since McMillan didn't play last year due to injury, don't you think they should get a DT to try and replace Suh with their first pick?


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: fyo on April 05, 2018, 01:50:12 am
^ Vita Vae?


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: Pappy13 on April 05, 2018, 11:25:04 am
Just a question, since McMillan didn't play last year due to injury, don't you think they should get a DT to try and replace Suh with their first pick?
We had Suh last year and the run defense was still poor. And a DT won't help cover the TE's against the pass which was also a weakness. We haven't had a decent set of LB's since....we had a decent defense. I think it's time we stock up on a couple of young LB's and see if that helps. It can't hurt. I don't think a DT will make much of a difference if Suh didn't.


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: DaLittle B on April 05, 2018, 11:39:54 am
-I like the Idea of LB,and TE,but would strongly consider drafting a replacement for D.Parker. (It was tweeted around the combine) There are 7 - 6'3 + WR's in this years draft,and with the fine china body,tissue paper mentality...I'm extremely confident we could use a bigger WR added to the mix this year.

- S*,CB*,and OL depth since we seem to suck so bad at drafting O-lineman.(and considering the Age.Health concerns I have with our Current O-line.

-DT-DE maybe,I'm not willing to roll the Dice with a 1st rd DT...IMO Jordan (possible Free agent after this year,make him prove he's might be worth the a contract),Godchaux,Taylor Hayes at DT. Fede Just signed with the Bills,we lost a tweener... :-\

*Saftey- R.Jones is expensive in 2019 (17 mil against the cap),and now on the wrong side of 30,T.J McDonald one misstep form longer suspension (6mil against the cap in 19 also), Losing Micheal Thomas to the Giants, Leaves us with Walt Aikins,and Lucas as Backup saftys...

* DB -Lippett,and B.Mcain would be RFA after this year.

That's my delusional view of where I'd hope we'd look...With ZERO confidence that we will..... ;D :D


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: fyo on April 05, 2018, 11:56:25 am
We had Suh last year and the run defense was still poor. And a DT won't help cover the TE's against the pass which was also a weakness. We haven't had a decent set of LB's since....we had a decent defense. I think it's time we stock up on a couple of young LB's and see if that helps. It can't hurt. I don't think a DT will make much of a difference if Suh didn't.

Well, we're getting Raekwon McMillan back. He's apparently the best thing since sliced bread.


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: Dolphster on April 05, 2018, 12:33:59 pm
-I like the Idea of LB,and TE,but would strongly consider drafting a replacement for D.Parker. (It was tweeted around the combine) There are 7 - 6'3 + WR's in this years draft,and with the fine china body,tissue paper mentality...I'm extremely confident we could use a bigger WR added to the mix this year.

- S*,CB*,and OL depth since we seem to suck so bad at drafting O-lineman.(and considering the Age.Health concerns I have with our Current O-line.

-DT-DE maybe,I'm not willing to roll the Dice with a 1st rd DT...IMO Jordan (possible Free agent after this year,make him prove he's might be worth the a contract),Godchaux,Taylor Hayes at DT. Fede Just signed with the Bills,we lost a tweener... :-\

*Saftey- R.Jones is expensive in 2019 (17 mil against the cap),and now on the wrong side of 30,T.J McDonald one misstep form longer suspension (6mil against the cap in 19 also), Losing Micheal Thomas to the Giants, Leaves us with Walt Aikins,and Lucas as Backup saftys...

* DB -Lippett,and B.Mcain would be RFA after this year.

That's my delusional view of where I'd hope we'd look...With ZERO confidence that we will..... ;D :D

I think that is a pretty solid overview.  I think Vita Vea will be an All Pro DT, but I agree with you that his impact at that position is limited enough that I wouldn't take him even if he is still available at #11.  Especially when as you said, there are other pressing areas to be addressed.  The middle rounds actually have some solid DTs (Tim Settle out of Virginia Tech I believe) and large bodied WRs that still have a little speed (Auden Tate from FSU).  I even like some of the late round talent that would be suitable depth behind our starters at positions like S, CB, and O-Line (Sean Welsh from Iowa, Brandon Parker from NC A&T, Greg Senat fro Wagner and Brett Toth from Army). Those guys are raw or from small schools, but I think they have a lot of developmental potential.


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: masterfins on April 05, 2018, 01:21:09 pm
We had Suh last year and the run defense was still poor. And a DT won't help cover the TE's against the pass which was also a weakness. We haven't had a decent set of LB's since....we had a decent defense. I think it's time we stock up on a couple of young LB's and see if that helps. It can't hurt. I don't think a DT will make much of a difference if Suh didn't.

My point was we have a first round LB, hopefully, that's going to start this year, that didn't touch the field last year.  Plus, Suh was double teamed much of the time, which IMO really helped Wake.  I don't disagree that the LB play last year was terrible, and that we could probably use another great LB, BUT I'd rather have a stud DT stopping the runners before they reach the LB's.


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on April 05, 2018, 04:20:43 pm
Getting Raekwon back means we don't immediately have to go LB, but if that is the best player available at 11, then so be it. Like I said, we are lacking in talent almost everywhere and that's due to constant draft misses. We need good to great starters from our first 4 picks and they need to contribute immediately. No reaches, best player available every time we are on the clock.


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: Pappy13 on April 05, 2018, 08:22:14 pm
Plus, Suh was double teamed much of the time, which IMO really helped Wake.
The problem was that it didn't really help the defense. Suh wasn't double teamed so much because he couldn't be blocked by 1 guy, but because no one around Suh required a double team, they could all be blocked by just 1 guy. That's not gonna change by getting another DT.

My point was we have a first round LB, hopefully, that's going to start this year, that didn't touch the field last year. I don't disagree that the LB play last year was terrible, and that we could probably use another great LB, BUT I'd rather have a stud DT stopping the runners before they reach the LB's.
I don't want the LB corp to just be average this year, I want to see it go from a weakness to a strength. Do that and it won't matter that Suh is gone because teams won't be worried about blocking the DT's they'll be worried about blocking the LB's. They didn't have to worry about that last year which ALLOWED them to double team Suh and reduce him to just another guy.


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: Dolphster on April 06, 2018, 09:03:25 am
Yep, even with McMillan back, they are still short 1 starting LB.  For years, one of this team's biggest weaknesses has been LBs picking up TEs and RBs in coverage.  Last year, teams just killed the Fins (especially Kiko).  I don't know if McMillan can play OLB as well as ILB, but if he can, I hope they move Kiko back to ILB where he has always been MUCH better.  But regardless of who they plug where, they are still going to be short another quality LB.  Stephon Anthony showed some ability as being a capable backup, but as Pappy and others have said, the team can't afford to continue being mediocre at the LB position because everyone in the league knows now that they can exploit that position.  This is not a particularly deep draft for high quality LBs and there is a significant dropoff in talent after Smith and Edmunds.  Vander Esch, Darius Leonard, and one of the guys from Alabama may be decent, but they are still a big dropoff after Smith and Edmunds.


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: CF DolFan on April 06, 2018, 09:36:52 am
Yep, even with McMillan back, they are still short 1 starting LB.  For years, one of this team's biggest weaknesses has been LBs picking up TEs and RBs in coverage.  Last year, teams just killed the Fins (especially Kiko).  I don't know if McMillan can play OLB as well as ILB, but if he can, I hope they move Kiko back to ILB where he has always been MUCH better.  But regardless of who they plug where, they are still going to be short another quality LB.  Stephon Anthony showed some ability as being a capable backup, but as Pappy and others have said, the team can't afford to continue being mediocre at the LB position because everyone in the league knows now that they can exploit that position.  This is not a particularly deep draft for high quality LBs and there is a significant dropoff in talent after Smith and Edmunds.  Vander Esch, Darius Leonard, and one of the guys from Alabama may be decent, but they are still a big dropoff after Smith and Edmunds.

I'm not typically a Kiko apologist but Omar Kelly said on the radio that Kiko got blamed for a lot of things that weren't his fault. He was the guy closest to the play so people automatically attack him.  Kiko did well his first season with the Dolphins so hopefully he can get back to that. If they can draft an actual free safety and move TJ McDonald to LB that whole group could get stronger.


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: Sunstroke on April 06, 2018, 09:57:53 am
This is not a particularly deep draft for high quality LBs and there is a significant dropoff in talent after Smith and Edmunds.  Vander Esch, Darius Leonard, and one of the guys from Alabama may be decent, but they are still a big dropoff after Smith and Edmunds.

If Miami misses out on Edmunds/Smith early, one ILB I hope they consider (or my 49ers, for that matter) is Malik Jefferson from Texas. I remember watching him as one of the top HS linebackers in the country, and once he got past the concussion issue he had as a sophomore, he absolutely lit it up this past year.

Another good ILB that could probably be taken later is Virginia's Micah Kiser. Not the greatest in coverage, but he's a tackling machine, can be used in pass rush packages, and he has one trait that I really like...he is extremely intelligent. ACC all-academic and honor roll pretty much his entire college career.





Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: DaLittle B on April 06, 2018, 10:01:42 am
I read those excuses about Kiko Alonzo.He wasn't so bad  ::),other guy's were out of position  ::),Blah,Blah,Blah...I call Bullshit,they blamed him for the horrid run defense in 2016,Hence the move to the outside,drafting R.McMillian to play MLB in the 2nd round.So much of the blame (as deflect,NAH it wasn't Suh) they refused to move him back to MLB after R.McMillian got hurt.

R.McMillian...I don't know anything about him, he could be Zach Thomas,Another Koa Misi,or an Eddie Moore ...Shrugs shoulders.(YES I know Zach Thomas wasn't a 2nd rounder...)

I don't put much faith in the organization...Believes,Feels,Bullshit excuses...This is the same team that keeps touting the greatness we'll see from Devonte Parker... ::)


What I really wanted to post in the thread...
On a side note,about draft strategy in general...(I'm not attacking Edgecrusher,because I whole heartily agree that we lack talent on this team...please don't take it this way)....

As a general rule,I don't agree with the "best player available" on the board as a strategy.2 main reasons...

1.) "The Best Available player" is subjective,according to whom?....Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. We hear it constantly after the draft,"We had this player rated above those players","We had this player as the number 1 guy on our board"...Most of the time,it's bullshit spin...

2.) Drafting a guy,who might be a HOF guy,but he'll never be anyway near that good on your team.....is just as foolish to me...

I get trying to trade down,and modifying the theory,to the best guy that fits your system,then you're going back to problem number 1.)..I think it's great to say in theory,but the reality of talent translating to performance on the field...it's doesn't always work... :-\



Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: Dolphster on April 06, 2018, 03:07:53 pm
If Miami misses out on Edmunds/Smith early, one ILB I hope they consider (or my 49ers, for that matter) is Malik Jefferson from Texas. I remember watching him as one of the top HS linebackers in the country, and once he got past the concussion issue he had as a sophomore, he absolutely lit it up this past year.

Another good ILB that could probably be taken later is Virginia's Micah Kiser. Not the greatest in coverage, but he's a tackling machine, can be used in pass rush packages, and he has one trait that I really like...he is extremely intelligent. ACC all-academic and honor roll pretty much his entire college career.





I don't know much about Jefferson or Kiser, but I definitely respect your input as you are pretty much always spot on (no, I'm not related to Sunstroke) so I will definitely do some homework on them.


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: Sunstroke on April 06, 2018, 03:44:47 pm
I don't know much about Jefferson or Kiser, but I definitely respect your input as you are pretty much always spot on (no, I'm not related to Sunstroke) so I will definitely do some homework on them.

I'm a few miles away from being pretty much always spot on, but I appreciate the compliment. 

If you want some links to highlights/scouting reports for either of those two LBs, just let me know. I'm a firm believer in ignoring the pundits, watching the film and letting your gut push the yay or nay button.




Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: CF DolFan on April 10, 2018, 11:05:12 am
I'm so torn. While I think Tannehill is far from our biggest concern the fact we haven't had an elite QB in so long makes me want to do whatever it takes to get one of the big 3 or 4. It's really hard to watch old film of Marino and not realize just how far we've fallen. We are starved for good QB play.

With that said we could totally help out our team the quickest by selecting the best player available in one of areas of need.

Option 2 is probably the more mature pick but it's been so freaking long I'm willing to go with a sexy QB pick and look to the future ... especially since the Bills and Jets have aligned themselves for one and we will be facing them twice every year.


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: Pappy13 on April 10, 2018, 02:37:14 pm
I'm so torn. While I think Tannehill is far from our biggest concern the fact we haven't had an elite QB in so long makes me want to do whatever it takes to get one of the big 3 or 4. It's really hard to watch old film of Marino and not realize just how far we've fallen. We are starved for good QB play.

With that said we could totally help out our team the quickest by selecting the best player available in one of areas of need.

Option 2 is probably the more mature pick but it's been so freaking long I'm willing to go with a sexy QB pick and look to the future ... especially since the Bills and Jets have aligned themselves for one and we will be facing them twice every year.
I'd understand that route if the QB the Dolphins thought was the best possible QB for the Dolphins was still available. I can't see just picking one of the 4 top QB's in the draft because you feel you need to take a QB.


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: Sunstroke on April 10, 2018, 03:20:32 pm

Just my own opinion, but of the 4 top QB prospects, I don't see a single one developing into anything more than just an average NFL QB.




Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: DaLittle B on April 10, 2018, 05:25:48 pm
I'm at the point what the Bills,Jets,and to an extent the Patriots do in the Draft..IE Draft this guy highly touted guy....We have to be a better team,err a Good team? We have to worry about our front office not,effin up the draft...AGAIN...

I still feel they will end up drafting a bunch of guys,I'll scratch my head at,bitch about a year from now,and probably be disappointed about...I just can't get behind the flyin by the seat of our pants approach of our front office.


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: Spider-Dan on April 10, 2018, 07:51:11 pm
If what we have been told so far this offseason is accurate and true, the team should be drafting whoever has the best character.

So which family will MIA be drafting this time?


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: Dolphster on April 11, 2018, 09:39:55 am
If what we have been told so far this offseason is accurate and true, the team should be drafting whoever has the best character.

So which family will MIA be drafting this time?

Ugg, don't bring that horrible memory back up. 


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: fyo on April 11, 2018, 10:13:27 am
Ugg, don't bring that horrible memory back up. 

I like how Ginn still gets crap, while Dion Jordan gets a free pass.

Ginn was a reach, sure, but he's at least a decent player. Jordan, meanwhile, has Yatil Green beat as the Dolphins' biggest draft bust, IMHO.


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: Tenshot13 on April 11, 2018, 10:57:34 am
Jordan, biggest MIA bust of all time confirmed.


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: Fau Teixeira on April 11, 2018, 12:17:05 pm
I'd like to see a round 1 TE


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: Sunstroke on April 11, 2018, 12:49:23 pm
I'd like to see a round 1 TE

Maybe in 2019...because there are definitely no 1st round TEs in this class.  ;)




Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: Dolphster on April 11, 2018, 04:43:33 pm
Not to mention how crappy TEs who can catch but couldn't block with an F-150 truck are going to get elevated into higher rounds than they deserve just because of the lack of talent in this year's draft at the position.  Same thing will happen with OTs.  Hardly any immediate impact Tackles in this year's draft so you will see 6th round talent being selected in the 3rd round.


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on April 12, 2018, 12:15:00 pm
I like how Ginn still gets crap, while Dion Jordan gets a free pass.

Ginn was a reach, sure, but he's at least a decent player. Jordan, meanwhile, has Yatil Green beat as the Dolphins' biggest draft bust, IMHO.

I think this is because we remember Ginn more because he actually played and was a reach by a whole round. Jordan was only a reach by a few draft spots and he was never around. Out of sight, out of mind.


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: DaLittle B on April 13, 2018, 02:03:29 pm
I'm starting to form opinions of who I don't want...

I don't want DT Vita Vea,a bit like our O-line, we have a lot of money/picks already invested in the defensive line...Harris 1st round pick last year,Jordan former 2nd rounder (contract situation),Spent a late pick for Godchaux last year,Branch,Wake,and newly acquired Quinn are fairly expensive.I see where we could use a DT,but not in round 1....

I trust that Stroke,and Dolphster say about TE so nope...

I don't "love" any of the QB's,but If 1 was there at 11,and there isn't an OLB.I don't think I'd be mad,then again my Front office hate + not really thinking any of these guys are next level guy... :-\



Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: Alwaysdullfan on April 20, 2018, 09:48:00 pm
^ Vita Vae?

He is good, but I heard hes best for 3-4 Defense, so the best DT in a 4-3 Defense would be OK with me if none of the two LBs are left.
   Overall, I'd go for "The best defensive player" on the board with 11th pick, and in 2nd Rd. DEF go get a Top 5 TE that can do it all....I'd be happy with that....
   But who knows with Gase, he's made some weird moves lately. Danny Amendola?? Really?!? For 6 mil./year I think. Wtf, you got J. Grant and L. Careoo who he traded up to get and I never seen that dude even play. They didn't even need to sign anyone for big bucks like Albert Wilson, but hopefully he'll be good. But that means K. Stills or Parker are gone next year cuz they're not gonna pay 3 WRs that kinda money. Parker is a BUST so far, and I bet Patriots will pick him up and turn him into top 5 WR in the NFL.....ughh


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: Pappy13 on April 22, 2018, 11:10:00 am
Parker is a BUST so far, and I bet Patriots will pick him up and turn him into top 5 WR in the NFL.....ughh
I'm getting kinda tired of the rhetoric that the Patriots turn every wide receiver into a superstar. Granted that I don't think anyone saw Wes Welker being the impact player he was but let's not pretend that Randy Moss wasn't a superstar before he went to the Patriots. He had a couple of off years before he rediscovered himself in New England, but they didn't actually make him into a superstar. Who else have they turned into a superstar exactly? Amendola? He wasn't any better in New England than he was in St. Louis. Edelman? He's had some nice years but Jarvis Landry has been as effective in Miami during that same period. Cooks? Cooks actually did better in New Orleans than he did in New England.


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: DaLittle B on April 24, 2018, 08:44:48 am
round 1- I want LB's- Trumaine,or Smith,but saw the article by the Herald trying to sell fans on the a trade down,and taking the Boise state kid Vander Esch. Some where else mention back problem...Sounds like a Miami Move.. ::)

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article209618029.html (http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article209618029.html)
found that article...


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: Dolphster on April 24, 2018, 08:49:41 am
Maybe the Fins will Caroo their first round pick.  Quick reminder: Not wanting to miss out on the uber talented Leonte Caroo in 2016, the Dolphins braintrust traded their 2016 6th round pick, 2017 3rd round pick, and 2017 4th round pick.  The Fins sure snookered the Vikings on that one.  So maybe this year they will trade up from the 11th spot in the 1st round to the 4th or 5th pick so they can select a guy who everyone has pegged as a 5th round prospect.  


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: Tenshot13 on April 24, 2018, 09:44:39 am
round 1- I want LB's- Trumaine,or Smith,but saw the article by the Herald trying to sell fans on the a trade down,and taking the Boise state kid Vander Esch. Some where else mention back problem...Sounds like a Miami Move.. ::)

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article209618029.html (http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article209618029.html)
found that article...
I've seen those guys thrown around which I agree with, but also Ward~CB...he's supposed to be a stud, but CB doesn't seem like a weakness.  If he's the best player available though, I don't think I'd be super upset, although, f Trumaine or Smith are still on the board, I might be a little more upset.


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: CF DolFan on April 24, 2018, 09:52:31 am
Trumane, Smith or Derwin James. All three would help improve our defense. If we draft James to play free safety then TJ McDonald would move to LB.


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: DaLittle B on April 24, 2018, 02:02:38 pm
Arrrgh...even the mention of L.Caroo puts me in a pissy mood,as it's a great reminder of how enept our front office decision makers are...

http://dailydolphin.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2018/04/24/2018-nfl-draft-top-7-miami-dolphins-mocked-draft-picks/ (http://dailydolphin.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2018/04/24/2018-nfl-draft-top-7-miami-dolphins-mocked-draft-picks/)
This depressed me,as I mentioned earlier...DT,is the position I dread we take in round 1,with my previous post,then the criticism of Vea...If he keeps his weight in check...NO,No,No.Please no...


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: Dolphster on April 24, 2018, 04:11:52 pm
Arrrgh...even the mention of L.Caroo puts me in a pissy mood,as it's a great reminder of how enept our front office decision makers are...

http://dailydolphin.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2018/04/24/2018-nfl-draft-top-7-miami-dolphins-mocked-draft-picks/ (http://dailydolphin.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2018/04/24/2018-nfl-draft-top-7-miami-dolphins-mocked-draft-picks/)
This depressed me,as I mentioned earlier...DT,is the position I dread we take in round 1,with my previous post,then the criticism of Vea...If he keeps his weight in check...NO,No,No.Please no...

Sorry about the Caroo reference.  I clearly still haven't gotten over it since I felt compelled to introduce it to the conversation here.   >:(


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: DaLittle B on April 25, 2018, 11:55:06 am
^^  :D it's ok me either

I get the feeling about the QB's in this class a bit like the 2011 class...*There is 1 guy that seems to be the best,and almost definitely going to be 1st picked perhaps even 1st overall..S.Darnold.


Then the rest are like J.Locker,C.Ponder,A.Dalton,and C.Kaepernick....Teams seem to like them,or avoiding them...


* Lately Josh Allen is getting picked alot by experts more ass we move closer to the draft...

Wooohoo...1 more day to see how far our franchise gets set back by bad draft picks!...#SuperbowlChamps2025!  :D


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on April 25, 2018, 12:45:09 pm
Rumors of teams like Arizona wanting to move up and take a QB, but not having enough capital to go into the Top 4. If one of the Top 4 QBs is still around by our pick, I would love if we moved down just a few spots to net an extra first rounder or a couple of 2's.

Just hope we don't waste those picks on injury risks who only fell to us because they may never walk again.


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: CF DolFan on April 25, 2018, 04:22:02 pm
A lot of talk today about Josh Rosen falling. He could be this years Aaron Rodgers. 


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: masterfins on April 25, 2018, 04:49:47 pm
My final guesses for the Dolphins picks:

Round #1 Minkah Fitzpatrick, S, Alabama
Round #2 Isaiah Winn, OL, Georgia
Round #3 Luke Falk, QB, Washington State
Round #4-23rd Carlos Watkins, DT, Clemson
Round #4-31st Josey Jewell, LB, Iowa


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on April 25, 2018, 09:32:23 pm
A lot of talk today about Josh Rosen falling. He could be this years Aaron Rodgers. 

If Rosen falls to us, aggressively field trade offers because Buffalo won't let him slide past them.


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: CF DolFan on April 26, 2018, 06:37:39 am
If Rosen falls to us, aggressively field trade offers because Buffalo won't let him slide past them.
I think it's pretty much a foregone conclusion that Buffalo will move up in tonight's draft.


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on April 26, 2018, 09:36:17 am
If the Browns trade the #4 pick, they can't get Barkley and they are so void of talent they need a QB and stud RB. Figure the Giants and Jets are taking QBs or one of them will and that leaves them with the leftovers at 5 if they can swing a trade, though the Broncos would take a QB as well.

Good chance 3 QB's will be taken in the first 3 picks and outside chance all 4 will be taken. Gonna have to trade both their first rounders and maybe even a couple of 2nds to move up into Top 3.


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: Tenshot13 on April 26, 2018, 10:00:13 am
The more QBs taken, the better the player that falls to Miami.  Unless they draft a QB, then we're boned.


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: Sunstroke on April 26, 2018, 03:06:24 pm
 I wanted to do a more detailed post for the draft tonight, but I've been pretty crazy busy lately. Here are a few players that I really like who could be available with Miami's first couple of picks. Any of these guys land in Miami (or SF), and I'm dancing my happy dance.

Round 1: OG Quenton Nelson (fat chance, but wth), LB Roquan Smith, LB Tremaine Edmunds, S Minkah Fitzpatrick, CB Derwin James

Late rd 1 (for trade-down): OG Isaiah Wynn, OG/C Billy Price, OG Will Hernandez, LB Rashaan Evans, CB Josh Jackson, CB Jaire Alexander

Round 2:  DT Taven Bryan, CB Mike Hughes, LB Malik Jefferson, LB Lorenzo Carter, WR Courtland Sutton, or any of the leftovers from the late rd 1 players.





Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on April 26, 2018, 03:39:18 pm
At this point, I just want a "sure thing". No hybrid players who are so talented they can play any position but don't have one and no players who fell to us due to injury concerns. We need someone to pencil in as a starter from Day 1. Whoever that is, then fine. We can use Guards and Linebackers and Centers. Take them all.


Title: Re: 2018 Miami Dolphins Draft,who do you want,not want?Who do think we'll draft?
Post by: Dolphster on April 26, 2018, 04:30:49 pm
Sunstroke already stole my thunder with his comments.  So I will change my post to Mid Round Sleepers at positions that Miami could really use.   
LB:  Darius Leonard from South Carolina St.  A little small but always flies around the ball and can covers RBs and TEs on pass routes
TE:  Dalton Schultz  If Hayden Hurst is gone before the Fins can get him, I would love to see them pick up this Stanford TE in the mid rounds. Can catch, runs good routes and a pretty good blocker
DT:  Tim Settle from Virginia Tech or the UConn kid Fatukasi.  Fatukasi would be a good clogger in the middle on running downs
S:  If you can't get Edmunds the LB, a mid round pick would be well spent on his brother Terrell Edmunds who has the speed to play free safety since we now essentially have 2 guys both playing Strong Safety
RB:  Rashad Penny or Kalen Ballage or Akrum Wadley or I even like the late round possibility of Martez Carter
QB:  No way I go with a QB early, but in the mid rounds I would like Luke Falk or even take a flyer late round with Chase Litton
CB:   I have this wonderful dream that because of his off field issues, CJ Jackson from Maryland falls into the middle rounds. I also like Nick Nelson or Christian Campbell in mid rounds
C:  I think all the good ones will be gone by the mid rounds
G:  Braden Smith if he falls to the 4th round Sean Welsh from Iowa would be a good project to pick in the 5th or 7th round
OT:  Crappy year for Tackles this year, but I would take a developmental player in the late rounds in Brandon Parker, Greg Senat, or Brett Toth
WR:  Not a pressing need, but a middle to late round pick of St. Brown, Auden Tate (love the size mismatch potential with Tate), Desean Hamilton, or Daurice Fountain would be ok
Edge Rushers:  Stay away from them.  Roster has too many of them already