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Title: Former Dolphins Vontae Davis Retires...
Post by: DaLittle B on September 16, 2018, 05:23:36 pm
At half time of the Bills Game today...Just Quit on the team...
https://twitter.com/mortreport/status/1041431940287610892 (https://twitter.com/mortreport/status/1041431940287610892)
Chris Mortensen tweet,and others...
Word is Vontae Davis put on his street clothes at half, said he was quitting and left the stadium, per another source

 ??? Wow, I loved the guy that replied to the initial Tweet..."Did he have to call Grandma?"   :D


Title: Re: Former Dolphins Vontae Davis Retires...
Post by: BuccaneerBrad on September 16, 2018, 07:49:38 pm
What an asshole.  He should never be allowed anywhere near a football field again.


Title: Re: Former Dolphins Vontae Davis Retires...
Post by: Tenshot13 on September 16, 2018, 09:04:13 pm
Couldn't have happened to a better team


Title: Re: Former Dolphins Vontae Davis Retires...
Post by: Spider-Dan on September 17, 2018, 02:00:57 am
I would have preferred it happen to the Jets.
But it's still a great story.


Title: Re: Former Dolphins Vontae Davis Retires...
Post by: BigDaddyFin on September 17, 2018, 09:12:32 am
perhaps his Fruity Pebbles were not slam-dunk delicious enough?  I don't know this is the most bizarre case of a player retiring I've ever heard of.  It's more strange than when Terry Pendleton walked off the field in the middle of a Braves game.


Title: Re: Former Dolphins Vontae Davis Retires...
Post by: CF DolFan on September 17, 2018, 10:56:27 am
perhaps his Fruity Pebbles were not slam-dunk delicious enough?  I don't know this is the most bizarre case of a player retiring I've ever heard of.  It's more strange than when Terry Pendleton walked off the field in the middle of a Braves game.
Completely different reason. As the leader of the team Pendleton walk off because he was angry his pitchers weren't retaliating for Deion Sanders getting hit. Davis abandoned his teammates when they needed him.


Title: Re: Former Dolphins Vontae Davis Retires...
Post by: Dave Gray on September 17, 2018, 01:49:09 pm
I will probably be in the minority, but this doesn't bother me.  I'd prefer that he not leave the stadium, but I have no qualms with him realizing that he's not cut out for it and hanging it up right there.  ...no reason to put your body on the line one second longer.

And if he left so that he wouldn't be talked back into a career that's damaging him, I understand that, too.  It's just a job.  Lots of people don't wait to quit until the end of the workday.


Title: Re: Former Dolphins Vontae Davis Retires...
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on September 17, 2018, 02:53:45 pm
I agree with Dave, while he could have handled it better, I suspect that others have handled it worse yet didn’t get criticized.  E.g. fake an injury, needlessly occupy a roster spot until the team puts you on IR, collect money you didn’t earn and then retire the following season after you get cut.


Title: Re: Former Dolphins Vontae Davis Retires...
Post by: Phishfan on September 17, 2018, 03:55:37 pm
That would be a great actor that could fake an injury bad enough to fool a professional football team's medical staff with their X rays, MRIS, etc.


Title: Re: Former Dolphins Vontae Davis Retires...
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on September 17, 2018, 04:13:34 pm
That would be a great actor that could fake an injury bad enough to fool a professional football team's medical staff with their X rays, MRIS, etc.

“I am in pain”. MRI or X-ray can’t disprove that.  No medical professional is going to force an athlete that claims an injury that he must play.  The medical staff might tell the coach they think he is faking, but they aren’t going to put him on the field. 


Title: Re: Former Dolphins Vontae Davis Retires...
Post by: Spider-Dan on September 17, 2018, 04:15:12 pm
You don't need to fake an x-ray.  Ask Andrew Luck; the Colts' medical staff "cleared" him, but he was still feeling pain and didn't go.


Title: Re: Former Dolphins Vontae Davis Retires...
Post by: CF DolFan on September 17, 2018, 04:15:17 pm
That would be a great actor that could fake an injury bad enough to fool a professional football team's medical staff with their X rays, MRIS, etc.
Not at all. You can fake many injuries like throwing your back out. There is no test to see if you actually pulled muscles. Pinched nerves yes, damaged disk yes ... but not muscles. Could of faked a concussion, stinger, dizziness, or headache.


Title: Re: Former Dolphins Vontae Davis Retires...
Post by: Pappy13 on September 17, 2018, 04:27:36 pm
Not at all. You can fake many injuries like throwing your back out. There is no test to see if you actually pulled muscles. Pinched nerves yes, damaged disk yes ... but not muscles. Could of faked a concussion, stinger, dizziness, or headache.
Or PMS....just saying.  >:D

I don't have a big problem with what he did either, but I can understand the outrage as well.


Title: Re: Former Dolphins Vontae Davis Retires...
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on September 17, 2018, 04:34:50 pm
In personal injury cases the defense hire PIs because a doctor’s report can’t disprove a plantifs injury, but a video tape of that person shoveling snow will.


Title: Re: Former Dolphins Vontae Davis Retires...
Post by: Phishfan on September 17, 2018, 06:49:37 pm
“I am in pain”. MRI or X-ray can’t disprove that.  No medical professional is going to force an athlete that claims an injury that he must play.  The medical staff might tell the coach they think he is faking, but they aren’t going to put him on the field. 

Pain and injury are separate things. They play with pain all the time and some even with injuries. A medical staff will spot a faker really quick.


Title: Re: Former Dolphins Vontae Davis Retires...
Post by: Phishfan on September 17, 2018, 06:51:59 pm
Not at all. You can fake many injuries like throwing your back out. There is no test to see if you actually pulled muscles. Pinched nerves yes, damaged disk yes ... but not muscles. Could of faked a concussion, stinger, dizziness, or headache.

Most of this stuff doesn't lead to IR either.


Title: Re: Former Dolphins Vontae Davis Retires...
Post by: Spider-Dan on September 18, 2018, 12:15:38 am
Pain and injury are separate things. They play with pain all the time and some even with injuries. A medical staff will spot a faker really quick.
If I say that I have recurring headaches and dizziness, what is a medical staff going to do about it... prove that my headaches are faked?  What if I say that have soreness in my knee, and I don't want to risk long-term damage with painkiller injections?

A medical staff can clear you as able to play, but they cannot evaluate your pain threshold.  While many players do choose to play through pain, there is no clause in their contract that specifies a minimum amount of pain that the player must play through.

If a player doesn't want to play, and chooses to claim that he is in too much pain to play safely, no team will force him on to the field.  They can cut him.  They can attempt to get back money that is guaranteed only for injury.  But fully guaranteed money is gone.


Title: Re: Former Dolphins Vontae Davis Retires...
Post by: Phishfan on September 18, 2018, 08:14:47 am
If I say that I have recurring headaches and dizziness, what is a medical staff going to do about it... prove that my headaches are faked?  What if I say that have soreness in my knee, and I don't want to risk long-term damage with painkiller injections?

A medical staff can clear you as able to play, but they cannot evaluate your pain threshold.  While many players do choose to play through pain, there is no clause in their contract that specifies a minimum amount of pain that the player must play through.

If a player doesn't want to play, and chooses to claim that he is in too much pain to play safely, no team will force him on to the field.  They can cut him.  They can attempt to get back money that is guaranteed only for injury.  But fully guaranteed money is gone.

And please reread every one of my posts and quote where I ever said anything about forcing a player onto the field to play. I simply said the trained medical staff would spot the faker. It actually seems you agree with me at the end when you bring up cutting the player so I'm not sure your point now.


Title: Re: Former Dolphins Vontae Davis Retires...
Post by: Dolphster on September 18, 2018, 09:05:40 am
I have been very interested to hear what current announcers who were former players had to say about it.  Almost every single one of them has said the same thing.  If you decide during a game that you have had enough, you play the rest of the game and THEN quit.  To walk out on your teammates in the middle of a game is classless bullcrap.  In a sport where the concept of "team" is everything, that is about as selfish of a thing that a person can do.  I agree. 


Title: Re: Former Dolphins Vontae Davis Retires...
Post by: Phishfan on September 18, 2018, 11:07:12 am
I have been trying to weigh out exactly how I feel about this. I wouldn't walk out on my team. I wouldn't respect a teammate that did. I wouldn't even walk out from an everyday job without providing notification either. This can't be something he just came up with unless he has a mental issue iI don't know of.


Title: Re: Former Dolphins Vontae Davis Retires...
Post by: CF DolFan on September 18, 2018, 11:41:43 am
I have been trying to weigh out exactly how I feel about this. I wouldn't walk out on my team. I wouldn't respect a teammate that did. I wouldn't even walk out from an everyday job without providing notification either. This can't be something he just came up with unless he has a mental issue iI don't know of.
That's my feeling as well.


Title: Re: Former Dolphins Vontae Davis Retires...
Post by: DaLittle B on September 18, 2018, 01:29:31 pm
I honestly didn't think it was real,I thought it was a joke or not for quite awhile...I saw the initial tweet by someone,and no known writers picked it up or mentioned the tweet,it just sat there for like an hour.I assumed it mean he was getting ass beat play,after play,perhaps got benched etc...(I was dealing with a work crisis)

I struggle with the way he did it,mostly,than he retired.Kind of the same thing Phish said...IMO It's the respect you have for your teammates,not to quit on them at halftime,and leave them hanging..


Title: Re: Former Dolphins Vontae Davis Retires...
Post by: BuccaneerBrad on September 18, 2018, 02:36:48 pm
In related news, Antonio Brown did not show up for practice today in Steelerville.  They are saying he has a "personal issue" to attend to.


Title: Re: Former Dolphins Vontae Davis Retires...
Post by: CF DolFan on September 18, 2018, 03:12:57 pm
In related news, Antonio Brown did not show up for practice today in Steelerville.  They are saying he has a "personal issue" to attend to.
On the day he missed he addressed a tweet as "Trade me let’s find out" to former Pittsburgh Steelers PR assistant Ryan Scarpino.  Obviously Pitt is having problems we haven't seen in the past.

Antonio Brown

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Antonio Brown Retweeted Ryan Scarpino
Trade me let’s find out

 
@RyanScarpino
AB needs to thank his lucky stars, because he was drafted by a team that had Ben. And Ben got AB paid. You know darn well he wouldn’t put up those numbers for other teams.
8:29 AM - 17 Sep 2018