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Title: Refs - a new thing I want to start on this board.
Post by: dolphins4life on October 08, 2018, 12:00:40 am
Every time the Dolphins lose a game, I will start this thread.

Everybody posts about bad calls, but they rarely give much information about them.

I want to research if the calls are actually truly incorrect or not. 

What were the bad calls in this game?

When did they happen?


Title: Re: Refs - a new thing I want to start on this board.
Post by: Spider-Dan on October 08, 2018, 01:20:04 am
So... where's the research?

Did you watch the game?
If so, which calls did you think were questionable?
If not, why would you be issuing judgment on whether calls you haven't seen are "actually truly incorrect"?


Title: Re: Refs - a new thing I want to start on this board.
Post by: dolphins4life on October 08, 2018, 01:47:44 am
So... where's the research?

Did you watch the game?
If so, which calls did you think were questionable?
If not, why would you be issuing judgment on whether calls you haven't seen are "actually truly incorrect"?

Two people on here have said the refs were bad in this game.  I want to know why they were bad. 


Title: Re: Refs - a new thing I want to start on this board.
Post by: Dolphster on October 09, 2018, 09:19:39 am
Please stop analyzing games that you did not watch. 


Title: Re: Refs - a new thing I want to start on this board.
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on October 09, 2018, 11:23:48 am
Two people on here have said the refs were bad in this game.  I want to know why they were bad. 

This is due to a phenomenon not unique to this board, or this team, or even football in general, but due to a phenomenon that plagues all sports fans and it is called bias.  It is what allows fans of different teams to watch the same game and each to conclude that the refs favored the other team.   


Title: Re: Refs - a new thing I want to start on this board.
Post by: Tenshot13 on October 09, 2018, 01:46:23 pm
^That had nothing to do with bias, the refs fucked us the first half, then they tried to fuck the Bengals later.  Refs were just terrible.


Title: Re: Refs - a new thing I want to start on this board.
Post by: Sunstroke on October 10, 2018, 09:33:21 am
Please stop analyzing games that you did not watch. 

I second this motion...can we put it to a vote?



Title: Re: Refs - a new thing I want to start on this board.
Post by: Tenshot13 on October 10, 2018, 09:49:42 am
I second this motion...can we put it to a vote?


Aye!


Title: Re: Refs - a new thing I want to start on this board.
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on October 10, 2018, 10:26:08 am
I second this motion...can we put it to a vote?



done


Title: Re: Refs - a new thing I want to start on this board.
Post by: Dave Gray on October 10, 2018, 11:09:47 am
I don't like when penalties are called that don't affect the play.  Or they reverse what actually happened.

So, when a player has a chance to make a catch and they are interfered with, I like the penalty call.  It reflects the play on the field.

I do not like penalties called that are away from the play or reverse what occurred....so a ticky-tack push in the back on the opposite side of the field, when the runner was dropped for a loss well away from it = bad.

There was one particular call in the game that came with seconds left in the 4th quarter.  The Bengals were 3rd and long and threw a pass to a receiver near the sideline.  The pass was high and Bengals player jumped and touched it but didn't really have an opportunity to bring it in.  The Dolphins corner came and hit the player in the back.  You could argue that the ball was far enough away for the player to pull up in time (I wouldn't argue that), but the Dolphins player made a defensive play on a guy trying to make a catch.  The player wasn't injured and it wasn't egregious.  It was just a hard hit on a guy that didn't catch the call.  Had he caught it, it would've been no penalty.  It was like we got called because THEY didn't make the play.  It was called as unnecessary roughness.  15 yards and an automatic first down, which was not indicative of the play on the field.

So, where we would have gotten the ball, able to run time well into the 4th quarter and the Bengals would've been down 3 scores, even if we did nothing.  But as is, it gave them a first down they didn't earn and led to an immediate TD.  It put the pressure on us to answer, we collapsed, etc.


Title: Re: Refs - a new thing I want to start on this board.
Post by: Dolphster on October 10, 2018, 11:29:31 am
Hmmm, now that I see how the two voting options were phrased, I'm not sure which one I want to choose.   ;D


Title: Re: Refs - a new thing I want to start on this board.
Post by: Pappy13 on October 10, 2018, 11:40:24 am
You know for someone who at least according to their profile name is a Dolphins fan for life, you sure do spend an inordinate amount of time in the anti-fins chat section. Just saying.


Title: Re: Refs - a new thing I want to start on this board.
Post by: Phishfan on October 10, 2018, 01:16:36 pm
I'm just going to say I understand the position some of you have but you sound like whining babies in this thread, starting a poll even. The guy asked a question. Perfectly acceptable whether he watched a game or not. Probably even more acceptable if not.


Title: Re: Refs - a new thing I want to start on this board.
Post by: Sunstroke on October 10, 2018, 01:30:55 pm
Hmmm, now that I see how the two voting options were phrased, I'm not sure which one I want to choose.   ;D

Now, more than ever, your vote has consequences...

;)



Title: Re: Refs - a new thing I want to start on this board.
Post by: DZA on October 10, 2018, 02:20:36 pm
I dont see how the Refs were a Factor in the Dolphins melt down . Yes I did watch the game.


Title: Re: Refs - a new thing I want to start on this board.
Post by: stinkfish on October 10, 2018, 03:20:22 pm
I don't get to watch many Dolphins games because I live in the Boston area, and unfortunately have the Patsies crammed down my throat every week, so guess how I voted. ;D So with only being able to catch plays here and there on ESPN's app on gamecast, I could only tell that the Dolphins gave up 24 points to lose the game all by themselves. Bad calls are going to happen, but you can't hold on to a 17 point lead? C'mon man


Title: Re: Refs - a new thing I want to start on this board.
Post by: Tenshot13 on October 10, 2018, 03:48:17 pm
I dont see how the Refs were a Factor in the Dolphins melt down . Yes I did watch the game.
They weren't a factor in their meltdown, the offense did that all by themselves, but that's no excuse on why the refs blew chunks the entire game.

This is directed at D4L:  Just because the refs sucked, doesn't mean they are the reason Miami lost.  Miami lost because of 2 turnovers that turned into touchdowns.  Miami overcame some of those terrible calls in the first half for a 17 point lead, that frankly should have been more if it wasn't for terrible officiating, but still not enough to win the game.  The Bengals had terrible calls against them as well in the second half, and they would be complaining a lot more if it weren't for their 2 defensive TDs.


Title: Re: Refs - a new thing I want to start on this board.
Post by: Dolphster on October 11, 2018, 10:12:16 am
Now, more than ever, your vote has consequences...

;)



After much (not really) consideration, I decided to vote with my heart that the unintentional humor in his comments outweighs the irritation of the nonsense.   ;D


Title: Re: Refs - a new thing I want to start on this board.
Post by: Sunstroke on October 11, 2018, 11:40:01 am
After much (not really) consideration, I decided to vote with my heart that the unintentional humor in his comments outweighs the irritation of the nonsense.   ;D

Your heart is in a really bad place right now... ;)





Title: Re: Refs - a new thing I want to start on this board.
Post by: stinkfish on October 11, 2018, 12:34:58 pm
After much (not really) consideration, I decided to vote with my heart that the unintentional humor in his comments outweighs the irritation of the nonsense.   ;D
Hey! :D I just don't have the opportunity to see many Dolphins games where I live.


Title: Re: Refs - a new thing I want to start on this board.
Post by: bsmooth on October 14, 2018, 04:48:26 pm
It will not matter. The individual has repeatedly shown that they know little about football, and will continue to pull out his shine box every Sunday to ensure his clown shoes have a brilliant luster to them.


Title: Re: Refs - a new thing I want to start on this board.
Post by: Tenshot13 on October 26, 2018, 08:36:34 am
Joe Buck commented on how terrible the officiating was in the Texans game.


Title: Re: Refs - a new thing I want to start on this board.
Post by: fyo on October 26, 2018, 10:05:17 am
Joe Buck commented on how terrible the officiating was in the Texans game.

Yeah, that was pretty bad all around. From opening kickoff all the way to the end. Overall, it felt like it went Miami's way more often than not, although there were some missed calls (facemask, clear DPI on Drake, I think).


Title: Re: Refs - a new thing I want to start on this board.
Post by: Dolphster on October 26, 2018, 10:19:56 am
Did you guys see where the NFL fired that one Official mid week.  How awful do you have to be in order to get fired in the middle of the season? 


Title: Re: Refs - a new thing I want to start on this board.
Post by: CF DolFan on October 26, 2018, 11:15:34 am
Did you guys see where the NFL fired that one Official mid week.  How awful do you have to be in order to get fired in the middle of the season? 
They get graded every week and I'm guessing that was the last straw. The one they showed was pretty obvious so if he consistently misses those then good riddance.