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Title: Shame of the game-Bills
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on December 02, 2018, 04:40:47 pm
I give it to Dolphins4life for slacking and not starting this thread.


Title: Re: Shame of the game-Bills
Post by: masterfins on December 02, 2018, 05:35:20 pm
Tannehill. I don't care what the excuses are, he has to step up and convert a third down; you just can't have that many three and outs.  Add to that the interception right after the defense got you the ball with an interception is just demoralizing to a defense.  Luckily the defense made a stop at the end...barely.

DHM to D4L for not starting the thread.  ;)


Title: Re: Shame of the game-Bills
Post by: BuccaneerBrad on December 02, 2018, 09:02:54 pm
Mine goes to Dolphins4life as well.   He's 2.5 for 3 so far


Title: Re: Shame of the game-Bills
Post by: dolphins4life on December 02, 2018, 09:17:25 pm
I was at work from 12:30 to nine today, so that's why I didn't start it lol

My shame of the Game goes to the secondary for letting Clay get so open on that fourth down.


Title: Re: Shame of the game-Bills
Post by: Tenshot13 on December 02, 2018, 09:36:55 pm
Everyone in here but D4L for being enablers.

Seriously has to be a tie between Jesse Davis and Ted Larson.  They're terrible.


Title: Re: Shame of the game-Bills
Post by: Dave Gray on December 03, 2018, 12:24:16 am
Our o line was trash today


Title: Re: Shame of the game-Bills
Post by: pondwater on December 03, 2018, 04:13:45 am
Gase for letting Tannehill get thrashed again. There are ways to somewhat circumvent that. You saw what the other QB did to us. Tannehill can run also, we're missing out on lots of yardage.


Title: Re: Shame of the game-Bills
Post by: Dave Gray on December 03, 2018, 11:56:52 am
I think Tanny played pretty well.  His line was whiffing on blocks and getting handled.  He had a good pass or two where receivers alligator armed it to avoid contact.  We're much better when he's in the game.  And I like that we tried to go down the field a few times.


Title: Re: Shame of the game-Bills
Post by: CF DolFan on December 03, 2018, 12:01:40 pm
Our o-line is atrocious. Bad lines make QBs and RBs look much worse than they are. Just look at Andrew Luck. I know we've had Tanny for 7 years but it would have been nice had he ever had an o-line.

I want everyone fired until we can find someone who can evaluate and bring in some talent for our trenches. Until then ... we have no shot.


Title: Re: Shame of the game-Bills
Post by: Brian Fein on December 03, 2018, 04:47:47 pm
Offensive line is downright awful but my shame goes to Kiko Alonso.  Repeatedly looked silly trying to run down Allen, and a dumb penalty for helmet contact.  I feel like Alonso needs to be better, and he usually is.

Until the Dolphins address the O-line problems that have been plaguing them since Jonathan Martin, they will be a middle of the road team and no better.  Tannehill could be GREAT, if he had better protection.


Title: Re: Shame of the game-Bills
Post by: Dave Gray on December 03, 2018, 05:17:51 pm
That penalty was dumb, but not on Kiko's part.  What a shit rule.  That's gotta change.  He just tackles the guy....doesn't even hit him hard.  Helmets are going to knock together...it's why they wear helmets.   


Title: Re: Shame of the game-Bills
Post by: Brian Fein on December 03, 2018, 05:38:11 pm
That penalty was dumb, but not on Kiko's part.  What a shit rule.  That's gotta change.  He just tackles the guy....doesn't even hit him hard.  Helmets are going to knock together...it's why they wear helmets.  
completely agree.  the league has created an environment where defenders cannot hit anyone because if the guy they're hitting makes an unexpected move or cut its a penalty.  Just like the Roughing the Passer they called on Wake yesterday.  That was a joke call.  Wake held up and just touched Allen and he fell down and they threw the flag.


Title: Re: Shame of the game-Bills
Post by: Brian Fein on December 03, 2018, 05:39:46 pm
This play is what stuck out in my mind...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlWjn0nONnI

I can recall at least 2 other plays where Alonso got faked out or burned by Josh Allen


Title: Re: Shame of the game-Bills
Post by: pondwater on December 03, 2018, 05:46:09 pm
This play is what stuck out in my mind...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlWjn0nONnI

I can recall at least 2 other plays where Alonso got faked out or burned by Josh Allen
Kiko stumbling around like he had a few rum and cokes before the game. LMAO, I love it.

Damn Brian, ain't seen you around in quite a while.


Title: Re: Shame of the game-Bills
Post by: fyo on December 04, 2018, 04:58:26 am
I like Alonso, but setting him as the spy on Allen is strange. Alonso has GREAT anticipation and reads the play really well. And he has solid "downhill" speed. He can't change direction on a dime, though, and there's no reading a scrambling, juking quarterback. Maybe someone like Reshad Jones? He has more run-stopping tackles than anyone on the team anyway, so it's not like he doesn't play up front. Not that it wouldn't leave a whole at safety, so I'm not saying it's an ideal solution and with Allen throwing a much greater percentage of deep balls than anyone else in the league, perhaps no even a good solution. But neither is using Kiko.

All that just to justify NOT giving the shame of the game to Kiko. He looked like crap, but I felt he was put in a situation he shouldn't have had to be in.

McMillan on the other hand is just undisciplined. He's clearly a great athlete, but his technique just isn't what it should be, he doesn't finish plays, he loses track of his receiver too easily when in coverage, his communication with his teammates SUCKS, and he looks into the backfield too much.

McMillan gets the SotG from me.


Title: Re: Shame of the game-Bills
Post by: Tenshot13 on December 04, 2018, 08:52:47 am
^I think they should have had Baker spy Allen, he's a much faster LB


Title: Re: Shame of the game-Bills
Post by: CF DolFan on December 04, 2018, 08:58:23 am
^I think they should have had Baker spy Allen, he's a much faster LB
Kiko is much better than Baker. Baker takes bad angles and even misses seeing the play develop. Kiko sucked trying to spy Josh Allen but he is the best LB that we have by far. That's a sad state of affairs.


Title: Re: Shame of the game-Bills
Post by: masterfins on December 04, 2018, 12:44:26 pm

McMillan on the other hand is just undisciplined. He's clearly a great athlete, but his technique just isn't what it should be, he doesn't finish plays, he loses track of his receiver too easily when in coverage, his communication with his teammates SUCKS, and he looks into the backfield too much.

McMillan gets the SotG from me.

I tied to keep an eye on McMillan this week, as Pappy has been deriding him lately.  I gotta say there were some times he just looked lost out there.  He needs coaching.  Given he had last year off, with plenty of time to watch films and sit in on meetings I would have thought he would be better prepared once on the field; but he looks like a bad rookie, making rookie mistakes.


Title: Re: Shame of the game-Bills
Post by: CF DolFan on December 05, 2018, 09:51:00 am
Both of our young LBers look lost quite often and is a big reason we give up so much in the run game and intermediate passing.


Title: Re: Shame of the game-Bills
Post by: Tenshot13 on December 05, 2018, 10:50:46 am
^If they were making splash plays, or lighting people up this would be acceptable, just young growth.  Other than Bakers pick 6, they've been invisible or worse.


Title: Re: Shame of the game-Bills
Post by: CF DolFan on December 05, 2018, 12:03:16 pm
^If they were making splash plays, or lighting people up this would be acceptable, just young growth.  Other than Bakers pick 6, they've been invisible or worse.
Hard to figure who's more disappointing ... those two LBers or Mike Gesicki?


Title: Re: Shame of the game-Bills
Post by: masterfins on December 05, 2018, 12:14:30 pm
Hard to figure who's more disappointing ... those two LBers or Mike Gesicki?

Hey, Gesicki drew a nice PI call that was one of Miami's biggest plays; and directly led to a TD. LOL  Maybe his best "play" of the season.  :D


Title: Re: Shame of the game-Bills
Post by: Pappy13 on December 05, 2018, 12:24:38 pm
McMillan has my SOTG every week until further notice.


Title: Re: Shame of the game-Bills
Post by: Garrett on December 05, 2018, 12:45:02 pm
Kiko Alonzo is horrible! He should never be allowed to drop in to pass protection ever! He can't cover anyone. They should blitz him on every potential pass play. And he's horrible in run defense as well. He's one of the NFL leaders in tackles, but most of his tackles are 15 yards up the field. That's because he's always chasing down the guy he missed at the line of scrimmage.


Title: Re: Shame of the game-Bills
Post by: Tenshot13 on December 05, 2018, 12:54:18 pm
I wouldn't be sad with a complete front 7 overhaul.  Taylor and Godchaux can stay.


Title: Re: Shame of the game-Bills
Post by: Brian Fein on December 05, 2018, 02:29:04 pm
I wouldn't be sad with a complete front 7 overhaul.  Taylor and Godchaux can stay.
And Quinn.  I like Quinn.