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Title: Who to root for?
Post by: dolphins4life on December 12, 2018, 05:42:08 pm
Of Course Cowboys over Colts is obvious

But what about the other games?




Title: Re: Who to root for?
Post by: Pappy13 on December 12, 2018, 05:49:33 pm
Tennesee to lose would be another smart choice.


Title: Re: Who to root for?
Post by: dolphins4life on December 12, 2018, 05:54:06 pm
Tennesee to lose would be another smart choice.

That gets tricky because in a three way tie with Mia, Indy, and Tenn, Mia wins.



Title: Re: Who to root for?
Post by: Pappy13 on December 12, 2018, 07:55:40 pm
That gets tricky because in a three way tie with Mia, Indy, and Tenn, Mia wins.
Not according to the ESPN's NFL playoff machine, it depends on how they all get to 9-7. If MIA, Indy and Tenn all finish 9-7 with Miami and Indy both winning their last 2 and Tennesee winning it's first 2 Indy is in and Mia and Tenn are out. The more that Tennesee and Indy lose the better it is for Miami. Unfortunately they can't both lose week 17 although they could tie that game and that could be good for Miami. Either Tennesse losing this weekend to the Giants or Indy losing to the Giants next weekend would be good for Miami regardless of what Miami does. If Indy loses both this weekend to the Cowboys and then loses to the Giants next weekend and Tennesse loses to the Giants this weekend or to the Redskins next week then it doesn't matter who wins between Indy and Tenn in week 17 as long as Miami wins it's last 2 games they will make the playoffs unless the Ravens go 3-0 and the Steelers go 2-1 or better. So it would be good to root for New England to beat the Steelers this weekend unless you think Miami can go 3-0 and the Patriots could go 1-2.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs/machine


Title: Re: Who to root for?
Post by: Spider-Dan on December 12, 2018, 09:55:45 pm
MIA doesn't necessarily need to go 3-0 to win the division... they can go 2-1 if NE completely collapses and loses the last 3 (4 straight to end the season).   ::)

If MIA and NE finish with the same record, MIA will either win on division tiebreaker or conference tiebreaker.  So NE's magic number is 2; if there are less than two Patriot wins or Dolphin losses in the rest of the season, MIA wins the AFCE.  A tall order, I know.



Title: Re: Who to root for?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on December 13, 2018, 12:13:53 am
That gets tricky because in a three way tie with Mia, Indy, and Tenn, Mia wins.



mia is better off with tenn losing.


Title: Re: Who to root for?
Post by: Fau Teixeira on December 13, 2018, 09:21:12 am
miami just needs to win out and nothing anybody else does matter .. take care of your business and you're in


Title: Re: Who to root for?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on December 13, 2018, 10:15:55 am
miami just needs to win out and nothing anybody else does matter .. take care of your business and you're in

not even close to true.  they could win out and be watching the colts or texans.


Title: Re: Who to root for?
Post by: CF DolFan on December 13, 2018, 11:40:16 am
Tampa needs to beat Baltimore
Dallas needs to beat Indy
New England needs to beat Pittsburgh

I think the only given is New England as they were thoroughly embarrassed by last weeks game. I'd hate to be the Steelers this weekend.


Title: Re: Who to root for?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on December 13, 2018, 12:47:25 pm

New England needs to beat Pittsburgh



Interesting.   I can see the logic in rooting for a collapse of the Steelers and the ravens winning the division opens up the 6th spot.  However I was surprised to see it with the division a theoretical possibility

But then again things are strange when I am hoping the jets win


Title: Re: Who to root for?
Post by: Dave Gray on December 13, 2018, 01:22:15 pm
not even close to true.  they could win out and be watching the colts or texans.

Right.  ...but that's very unlikely.  And also, you gotta do you.  I don't think we'd be upset if we won the last 3 and didn't get in.  You just gotta handle your business.


Title: Re: Who to root for?
Post by: Fau Teixeira on December 13, 2018, 01:44:22 pm
i'd much rather win the next 3 and see NE lose the next 3 and win the division and get the 3 seed and host a playoff game


Title: Re: Who to root for?
Post by: Brian Fein on December 13, 2018, 01:48:47 pm
I don't think we'd be upset if we won the last 3 and didn't get in.
At that point, it'd have been the last 5...  Still not upset, sitting 5-6 and winning-out and missing the playoffs at 10-6?  

To me that's a bitter pill to swallow...


Title: Re: Who to root for?
Post by: Dave Gray on December 13, 2018, 02:02:41 pm
Honest question: Would you rather go 1-2 to close the year, but due to a bizarre set of circumstances, make the playoffs as the 6 seed -- OR -- go 3-0 to end the season and miss the playoffs at 10-6?


Title: Re: Who to root for?
Post by: Brian Fein on December 13, 2018, 02:14:59 pm
Honest question: Would you rather go 1-2 to close the year, but due to a bizarre set of circumstances, make the playoffs as the 6 seed -- OR -- go 3-0 to end the season and miss the playoffs at 10-6?
the first one because, while its not glamorous, once you're in the playoffs, anything can happen.


Title: Re: Who to root for?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on December 13, 2018, 04:30:43 pm
At that point, it'd have been the last 5...  Still not upset, sitting 5-6 and winning-out and missing the playoffs at 10-6?  

To me that's a bitter pill to swallow...
Honest question: Would you rather go 1-2 to close the year, but due to a bizarre set of circumstances, make the playoffs as the 6 seed -- OR -- go 3-0 to end the season and miss the playoffs at 10-6?

You want to make the playoffs.  Once you get in anything can happen.

But I will say this.  I felt pretty good about NEP season at the conclusion of 2008.  I didn't feel the 11-5 and missing the playoffs was a bitter pill. 

*IF* the Dolphins end the season on a five game winning streak.  It should give you hope for improvement for next year.     


Title: Re: Who to root for?
Post by: Spider-Dan on December 13, 2018, 07:34:53 pm
The first one.  Miami won both of the last two games on incredible flukes.


Title: Re: Who to root for?
Post by: Spider-Dan on December 13, 2018, 07:36:31 pm
But I will say this.  I felt pretty good about NEP season at the conclusion of 2008.  I didn't feel the 11-5 and missing the playoffs was a bitter pill.
MIA went 10-6 and missed the playoffs in 2003.  It still felt like crap.


Title: Re: Who to root for?
Post by: CF DolFan on December 14, 2018, 10:07:15 am
Honest question: Would you rather go 1-2 to close the year, but due to a bizarre set of circumstances, make the playoffs as the 6 seed -- OR -- go 3-0 to end the season and miss the playoffs at 10-6?
I'd rather win out and miss the playoffs for two reasons. One is that I don't think we are ready for the playoffs and aren't looking forward to go out in the first round. Secondly it hopefully sets the tone for next year as it would be to go out on a 5 game winning streak.

Honestly ... my only reason for wanting to get to the playoffs this year is to quit hearing that about Tannehill.


Title: Re: Who to root for?
Post by: Dave Gray on December 14, 2018, 10:44:50 am
I can't even answer my own question.  My logical brain tells me that I'd rather win out.  But I think I might be lying to myself.


Title: Re: Who to root for?
Post by: Pappy13 on December 14, 2018, 12:36:59 pm
I can't even answer my own question.  My logical brain tells me that I'd rather win out.  But I think I might be lying to myself.
I want both. Win out and make the playoffs, but if you make me choose, I think I would rather make the playoffs then win out no matter how it happens. Honestly I'm not even sure it's possible to go 1-2 and make the playoffs, but if it was, I'd take that over winning out if I had to choose.


Title: Re: Who to root for?
Post by: Pappy13 on December 14, 2018, 12:44:34 pm
Tampa needs to beat Baltimore
Dallas needs to beat Indy
New England needs to beat Pittsburgh

I think the only given is New England as they were thoroughly embarrassed by last weeks game. I'd hate to be the Steelers this weekend.
Dallas' defense is playing surprising well and they are getting Sean Lee back this week. I would be surprised if Indy beats them. Course Dallas was 3-5 at one time, but they have won 5 in a row since then. I'm banking on the Cowboys beating Indy.


Title: Re: Who to root for?
Post by: Pappy13 on December 14, 2018, 03:48:18 pm
The most likely outcome where Miami makes the playoffs is this one in my opinion:

Miami loses to Minnesota and wins against Jax and Buffalo and
PIT loses 2 or more and
DEN loses 1 or more and
IND loses 1 or more and
TEN loses 1 or more

Therefore I'm rooting against Pit, Indy and Tennessee this weekend. If those 3 things happen this weekend then Miami doesn't need to beat the Vikings all they need to do is win their last 2 and they will have an excellent chance of making the playoffs no matter what else happens.


Title: Re: Who to root for?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on December 14, 2018, 04:02:31 pm


Therefore I'm rooting against Pit,


Go ahead and say it.  Let's go Pats!  😁😁😁


Title: Re: Who to root for?
Post by: Pappy13 on December 16, 2018, 03:59:39 pm
Dallas' defense is playing surprising well and they are getting Sean Lee back this week. I would be surprised if Indy beats them. Course Dallas was 3-5 at one time, but they have won 5 in a row since then. I'm banking on the Cowboys beating Indy.
I should have known better to trust the 'Boys.