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According to the Miami Herald, the Dolphins are prepared to move on from Ryan Tannehill after this season rather than pay him the $19 million he's owed over the next two years.
None of Tannehill's 2019-2020 scheduled pay is guaranteed, so it will be an easy cord to cut. By releasing or trading Tannehill, the Fins would save $13.2 million under the 2019 salary cap, or $18.7 million if he's designated a post-June 1 cut. Amid reports the front office will also be cleaned out, the Dolphins' organization appears headed for a near-full overhaul this offseason.
Source: Miami Herald
Dec 26 - 8:41 PM

I think we have enough talent where we can have a rebuild in terms of coaching and front office, but no need for one on the field. We definitely need some improvements there too, but a smart offseason or drafting and free agency can put us in good shape.

another 4 years of mediocrity and then another rebuild .. it just never ends

with who?  this isn’t a great draft for QBs and there isn’t much in FA. 

If it's the current braintrust, I can see a $100M/4 year deal ($40M guaranteed) to Sam Bradford once he becomes available. Or something similar for Teddy Bridgewater. Or maybe trade first round picks in 2019 and 2020 for Jameis Winston.

Dolphins ownership has to ask themselves...presuming the offensive line does not significantly improve over the next two years, do the following quarterbacks make the Dolphins better than with Tannehill during that time:

Sam Bradford
Teddy Bridgewater
Nick Foles
Tyrod Taylor
Trevor Semien
Josh McNown
Jameis Winston (if released or traded)

Dwayne Haskins
Drew Lock
Daniel Jones
Will Grier

I imagine they go with a complete stopgap for one year like Fitzpatrick and then reassess for 2020 if they don't find a QB in the 2019 draft.

I'd do a trade for David Carr.  Sam Bradford is okay, but he is always hurt.  Teddy Bridgewater might be worth a look.  Nick Foles too.  Pass on Tyrod Talor, Trevor Semien, Josh McNown and everyone else mentioned.  BIG NO on Winston, I don't want a rapist on my team.

Eli Manning or Ryan Fitzpatrick would be interesting as a stop gap, but the Dolphins need to draft someone...hopefully next year.  I'd rather they spend this draft only taking guards, centers, d-linemen and linebackers.

It just makes sense to move on from Tannehill.  He'll get a job somewhere else.  Of the FA QB's the only one I would want long term is Nick Foles, he has the ability to win games. Cheap short term solutions I'd prefer Fitzpatrick, Taylor, or possibly Bridgewater. Otherwise Brock Lobster.

I agree with Tenshot, just draft guards, centers, and D-lineman in the upcoming draft.  Hopefully, have a two win season in 2019, so the dolphins can pick the QB of their dreams in 2020.

I'm usually OK with letting guys go for making too much, but I think I'd keep Tanny.  There is just such a shortage at the QB position and the dropoff in quality is pretty big.

So pay almost twice as much for a comparable QB.  At best some of those guys are slightly better, many not quite as good.

I don't think they let Tanny go.  If they do then they will pay more for someone else unless they are going to Brock do it. Tanny will end up making more money as well as teams like Jacksonville will scoop him up. I don't think the front office is going to just drop him with cap friendly salary until they get something better regardless how much fans and a few reporters whine.  A better plan is to draft someone and wait for them to beat him out.

True, Mark Sanchez is still kicking around. Like Head Coaches, its the same 50 guys over and over again. I'm fine with keeping Tanny but I don't see him still the QB past 2020.

THANK GOD

Rumors Detroit might trade Stafford, although this is a bit of a stretch.  A lot of dead cap money if they trade him:

https://twitter.com/dolphinstalk/status/1078343408756891648?s=21 (https://twitter.com/dolphinstalk/status/1078343408756891648?s=21)

(Where I got the story, and what fellow Dolphin fans think)
https://www.reddit.com/r/miamidolphins/comments/aa1fkt/stafford_to_miami_in_2019/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/miamidolphins/comments/aa1fkt/stafford_to_miami_in_2019/)

I would be all about this, although the cost might be too high, draft and cap wise.  Stafford is really good.  I know a lot of his stats are padded throwing to Calvin Johnson, but even after he retired, Stafford threw for 4000+ yards in 2016 and 2017.  2018 has been a down year for him, and it's still better than what Tannehill puts up.

I thought he was still retired...nice scoop there, boss! ;)

Whoops!  Derek Carr.  Next I'll be asking for that RB from Carolina, Ed McCaffrey  :P

So an extra $10 million a year in cap space at the qb position and a draft pick for a guy you are only gonna keep for 2 years and will be good enough to prevent you from getting a top 10 draft pick, but not good enough to win you a playoff game.  Better off keeping Tannihill.  Or Brock or Fales.

Exactly.

--Stafford isn't comparable to Tannehill, he's way better, so yes, an extra $10 million for a better QB.  This part is my only reservation...he's not worth a 1st round pick and his contract is high, no arguing that.
--Stafford is 30.  In today's NFL he has at least 5 more years.  If he's good after 2 years, resign him.  If not, let him walk.
--Stafford, Wilson, Stills, Grant, Drake>Anything he's had since Calvin Johnson left.  That is good enough to win a playoff game (if they address the interior Oline too...doesn't matter who it is if there is no Oline).
--Brock shouldn't be on an NFL team, he's terrible.

i'm totally cool with getting a new QB as long as we don't give out a draft pick in the first 4 rounds .. it's just not worth it.. draft players .. pay for a QB in free agency . don't ever trade for one

I just hope they don't get crazy if they dump him. I don't see enough potential out there to throw away money. It needs to be part of a multi year process and the guy needs to know he is just a full in.

After reading Armandos article about how bad we are in cap space ... I don’t know that we are going to sign too many free agents. We need to reset our roster as we only have 19  million and according to fans no qb. By comparison from his article ...

“....the New York Jets will have about $106 million in cap space, the second most in the NFL.

The Buffalo Bills will have roughly $88 million in cap space, the third most in the NFL.

Even the New England Patriots, dominant in the AFC East this century, will start with about $25 million in salary cap space — more than the Dolphins will have before the South Florida slashing begins.”

I would resign James. He isn't a Pro Bowler, but he is reliable. O-Line's problem has been getting league worst play from both Guards for the past decade and bad coaching. I would spent a 1st rounder on a Guard if one was available. If it seems like a reach, trade down and acquire more picks and then select one.

See if Tanny will restructure to stay and lower the cap hit in the process.

He's already restructured and considering he will make a lot more money elsewhere he'd really have to like it here. He's a nice guy and all but I don't know that he is going to give up millions of dollars.

Tannehill is pretty much in the middle of the Bell Curve for NFL starting QBs.  He is not the level of QB who can carry a mediocre team on his back.  Nor is he the level of QB who is the reason his team sucks.  There are a ton of holes on this team.  An "outstanding" QB might create 1 or 2 more wins with this team than Tannehill.  And the Miami Herald is full of crap.  The Dolphins will not have made a decision on Tannehill yet for next season. Also, one of the main people who would be making that decision (Tennenbaum) will be fired after this weekend.   And when they do decide, their 1st or 20th phone call will not be to the Herald.  Just another newspaper trying to create interest in the final week of a lost season where nobody would be talking about the Dolphins unless the Herald throws some completely made up click bait story out there. And of course if it was Salguero at the Herald that put this story out, then it is laughable as he is an embarrassment who is wrong about 75% of the time.