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Title: Any NBA Fans?
Post by: stinkfish on February 02, 2019, 10:07:14 am
Are there any other NBA fans on this board, particularly Lakers fans? I don’t like what I’m reading about how much the Lakers are wiling to give up for Davis before the trade deadline. I don’t think the Lakers should do anything right now. Honestly, finish the season with the team that you have and then sign whatever big time free agent wants to sign with them. That way you keep your nucleus and add a big star to it.


Title: Re: Any NBA Fans?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on February 02, 2019, 10:28:45 am
I don’t really pay attention much to the NBA, beyond if the Celtics are in the finals. 

For me

Football NFL
Basketball College

But a Celtics Lakers final plus a Bruins Kings would be cool.


Title: Re: Any NBA Fans?
Post by: Dave Gray on February 02, 2019, 02:50:38 pm
I like the HEAT.  I watch occasionally.  They are mid grade with little consistency.  They aren’t a doormat but can’t hang with the big dogs.   ...probably going to make playoffs and exit early.


Title: Re: Any NBA Fans?
Post by: Phishfan on February 04, 2019, 01:32:16 pm
I am a Lakers fan but I pay a lot less attention now. I haven't read up on it because I don't really expect it to happen.


Title: Re: Any NBA Fans?
Post by: masterfins on February 04, 2019, 03:09:57 pm
Are there any other NBA fans on this board, particularly Lakers fans? I don’t like what I’m reading about how much the Lakers are wiling to give up for Davis before the trade deadline. I don’t think the Lakers should do anything right now. Honestly, finish the season with the team that you have and then sign whatever big time free agent wants to sign with them. That way you keep your nucleus and add a big star to it.

I'm a Celtics fan, and as much as I'd love the Celtics to get Davis, I would be alright with the Lakers trading away all their young talent for Davis.


Title: Re: Any NBA Fans?
Post by: stinkfish on February 04, 2019, 05:40:46 pm
^ Hush your mouth. ;) I can’t believe how much the Lakers are willing to give up for Davis. Is he really that good? Kuzma, in my opinion, is non negotiable.


Title: Re: Any NBA Fans?
Post by: masterfins on February 04, 2019, 05:52:58 pm
^ Hush your mouth. ;) I can’t believe how much the Lakers are willing to give up for Davis. Is he really that good? Kuzma, in my opinion, is non negotiable.

Yeah it's crazy how much they were willing to give up, if it's true.  I could see getting rid of Lonzo, and another player or two, but all of their young talent is crazy.


Title: Re: Any NBA Fans?
Post by: stinkfish on February 04, 2019, 06:08:17 pm
I don’t think the Lakers need to do anything. Maybe sign Carmelo just to have a body. Some veteran to come off the bench? But just wait until free agency.


Title: Re: Any NBA Fans?
Post by: stinkfish on May 14, 2019, 09:27:56 pm
Lakers get the 4th pick in the draft lottery. Let’s Go!


Title: Re: Any NBA Fans?
Post by: Sunstroke on May 15, 2019, 10:22:05 am

My beloved Suns got hosed...bumped all the way down to #6.

I am completely unamused.



Title: Re: Any NBA Fans?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on May 15, 2019, 11:39:32 am
Milwaukee prevented Boston from the chance to be the first city to win all 4 championships in a single season. But the Bruins are 5 wins from making Boston the first city to get 3 in a single season.


Title: Re: Any NBA Fans?
Post by: masterfins on May 15, 2019, 12:32:09 pm
My beloved Suns got hosed...bumped all the way down to #6.

I am completely unamused.



Have the Suns been relevant since Barkely's playing days?  ::)


Title: Re: Any NBA Fans?
Post by: masterfins on May 15, 2019, 12:40:56 pm
Milwaukee prevented Boston from the chance to be the first city to win all 4 championships in a single season. But the Bruins are 5 wins from making Boston the first city to get 3 in a single season.

I don't think it was Milwaukee that prevented the Celtics, it was Kyrie Irving.  Good riddance to him, hope he enjoys playing for Dolan.

I'd love to see the Celtics acquire Durant; or trade two or three of their first round picks to get Zion.


Title: Re: Any NBA Fans?
Post by: masterfins on May 15, 2019, 12:44:52 pm
This year is just another example of how the NBA draft lottery is rigged.  NO, which is losing Bigger Baby Davis who demanded a trade, miraculously acquired the first pick, though they only had a 65 chance of doing so.  It's almost as bad as horse harness racing at the end of the season in the north; if a certain farm hasn't won much money all season the other jockeys let a long shot horse from that farm win a race so they have feed money for the winter.


Title: Re: Any NBA Fans?
Post by: Fau Teixeira on May 15, 2019, 01:39:09 pm
the draft lottery isn't rigged .. new orleans is the 2nd smallest market in the NBA .. they aren't rigging shit for that town... if it was rigged, you'd see NY with the #1 pick .. and they'd hype hype hype the crap out of it forever.

you wanna see rigging .. check out this study:
http://pricetheory.uchicago.edu/levitt/Papers/DugganLevitt2002.pdf

they basically found that in sumo wrestling, if a fighter in the last match was 7-7 he won a disproportionate amount of the time, and 95% of the next match those two fighters fought (in the next tournament) they one that needed the win would lose in the 2nd match


Title: Re: Any NBA Fans?
Post by: BuccaneerBrad on May 15, 2019, 02:04:09 pm
the draft lottery isn't rigged .. new orleans is the 2nd smallest market in the NBA .. they aren't rigging shit for that town... if it was rigged, you'd see NY with the #1 pick .. and they'd hype hype hype the crap out of it forever.

you wanna see rigging .. check out this study:
http://pricetheory.uchicago.edu/levitt/Papers/DugganLevitt2002.pdf

they basically found that in sumo wrestling, if a fighter in the last match was 7-7 he won a disproportionate amount of the time, and 95% of the next match those two fighters fought (in the next tournament) they one that needed the win would lose in the 2nd match

Wrong.   If it was rigged, the Lakers would've gotten the number one pick.   


Title: Re: Any NBA Fans?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on May 15, 2019, 02:45:00 pm

http://pricetheory.uchicago.edu/levitt/Papers/DugganLevitt2002.pdf

they basically found that in sumo wrestling, if a fighter in the last match was 7-7 he won a disproportionate amount of the time, and 95% of the next match those two fighters fought (in the next tournament) they one that needed the win would lose in the 2nd match

Is this really "rigged" or more like the unwritten rule in baseball that you don't bunt and steal if the score is 9-1 in the 8th inning, you just let the game run out?

Or is it like in the NFL when one team needs a win to advance to the playoffs and the other team is totally out of it or has clinched the best playoff spot they can get then the team who cares is more likely to win than the team that doesn't give a shit and is resting his starters?

Part of this could be explained by the fact that someone who is 7-7 is highly motivated for the win while someone who is 6-8 or 8-6 is not very motivated and after 14 bouts both of them are extremely tired and motivation can be a huge factor.   


Title: Re: Any NBA Fans?
Post by: Fau Teixeira on May 15, 2019, 03:44:00 pm
Is this really "rigged" or more like the unwritten rule in baseball that you don't bunt and steal if the score is 9-1 in the 8th inning, you just let the game run out?

Or is it like in the NFL when one team needs a win to advance to the playoffs and the other team is totally out of it or has clinched the best playoff spot they can get then the team who cares is more likely to win than the team that doesn't give a shit and is resting his starters?

Part of this could be explained by the fact that someone who is 7-7 is highly motivated for the win while someone who is 6-8 or 8-6 is not very motivated and after 14 bouts both of them are extremely tired and motivation can be a huge factor.   

that is very true .. and the fact that the wrestler at 7-7 wins a disproportionately high amount of times isn't in itself suspicious .. but coupled with the next bout the two wrestlers have .. the one that needed the win at 7-7 loses 95% of the time that's what makes the win exchange obvious


Title: Re: Any NBA Fans?
Post by: Sunstroke on May 15, 2019, 04:40:39 pm
Have the Suns been relevant since Barkely's playing days?  ::)

Yes

::)



Title: Re: Any NBA Fans?
Post by: BuccaneerBrad on May 15, 2019, 05:16:43 pm
Have the Suns been relevant since Barkely's playing days?  ::)

There was a time in the mid 2000's where they were challenging the Spurs for supremacy in the West.   


Title: Re: Any NBA Fans?
Post by: Sunstroke on May 16, 2019, 02:07:43 pm
There was a time in the mid 2000's where they were challenging the Spurs for supremacy in the West.   

And the only reason the Spurs were relevant was because they tanked like their life depended on it in order to get Timmy Duncan.

 Just sayin'...   ;)



Title: Re: Any NBA Fans?
Post by: stinkfish on June 17, 2019, 11:45:47 am
I think my Lakers just won next year's finals


Title: Re: Any NBA Fans?
Post by: Fau Teixeira on June 17, 2019, 01:32:27 pm
they still can't get past the warriors probably


Title: Re: Any NBA Fans?
Post by: Spider-Dan on June 17, 2019, 04:15:54 pm
Milwaukee prevented Boston from the chance to be the first city to win all 4 championships in a single season. But the Bruins are 5 wins from making Boston the first city to get 3 in a single season.
Crisis averted.


Title: Re: Any NBA Fans?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on June 17, 2019, 04:39:35 pm
Crisis averted.

Boston has won 2 in the same season three times -- the only city with more is NYC which has 2 football teams, 2 baseball teams, 2 basketball teams and 3 hockey teams. 


Title: Re: Any NBA Fans?
Post by: CF DolFan on June 17, 2019, 05:07:36 pm
Boston has won 2 in the same season three times -- the only city with more is NYC which has 2 football teams, 2 baseball teams, 2 basketball teams and 3 hockey teams.  
New York and Boston should actually be penalized when they do not win in baseball. They buy All-star teams so if any other team competes with them they are underachieving. Try winning something with the Rays salary and then you can brag. Actually Chicago has moved into their leagues with salaries so they should be included as well.


Title: Re: Any NBA Fans?
Post by: BuccaneerBrad on June 17, 2019, 05:38:25 pm
New York and Boston should actually be penalized when they do not win in baseball. They buy All-star teams so if any other team competes with them they are underachieving. Try winning something with the Rays salary and then you can brag. Actually Chicago has moved into their leagues with salaries so they should be included as well.

If you wonder why Stanton is underachieving with the Yankees, it's because he's in the AL now and facing far better pitching.


Title: Re: Any NBA Fans?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on June 17, 2019, 05:44:36 pm
New York and Boston should actually be penalized when they do not win in baseball. They buy All-star teams so if any other team competes with them they are underachieving. Try winning something with the Rays salary and then you can brag. Actually Chicago has moved into their leagues with salaries so they should be included as well.

I don't disagree.  I much prefer the model of football to that of baseball. Red Sox are now spending like the Yankees, when I was a kid they didn't.


Title: Re: Any NBA Fans?
Post by: Phishfan on June 17, 2019, 07:50:05 pm
Boston has won 2 in the same season three times -- the only city with more is NYC which has 2 football teams, 2 baseball teams, 2 basketball teams and 3 hockey teams. 

Someone needs a geography lesson


Title: Re: Any NBA Fans?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on June 17, 2019, 08:18:04 pm
Someone needs a geography lesson

Obviously I am referring to the metropolitan area, I am aware Patriots aren’t in Boston, Giants and Jets are in NJ etc.