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Title: WTH is up with blackface?
Post by: CF DolFan on February 07, 2019, 12:31:24 pm
Personally I don't see it an issue if a white person is dressing up like a black character but i understand it is offensive. Regardless .... what the heck is up with all these politicians having their pics brought up wearing blackface? Maybe it's a Sanford thing but I'll be 50 this year and I've never seen or had anyone I know wear blackface and I know some serious racists in my time.  It just seems odd to me.


Title: Re: WTH is up with blackface?
Post by: Dave Gray on February 08, 2019, 01:35:20 am
I’ve never gone in blackface but I could see myself having done it when I was young, not realizing the cultural taboo and history of it.  I don’t think it should end a career.  But like most things, these things have context.  And if you backtrack or lie about it, it shows that you’re shitty.


Title: Re: WTH is up with blackface?
Post by: Tenshot13 on February 08, 2019, 05:36:59 am
I dressed up as Urkel as a kid for Halloween, but everyone thought I was dressed as a stereotypical nerd.  That's because I'm white and there was no way in hell I was going to darken my skin.  It didn't even come up, even as a kid I knew that was wrong.


Title: Re: WTH is up with blackface?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on February 08, 2019, 07:37:18 am
If a 10 year long old did it, I would question the parents.  And even a college kid I might go he was just dumb and culturally unaware.  No excuse not to know better as a med school grad.


Title: Re: WTH is up with blackface?
Post by: CF DolFan on February 08, 2019, 09:20:44 am
I think there is a huge difference between dressing up as Michael Jackson by also painting yourself darker and blackface in my opinion but people seem hell bent on trying to make them the same.  I don't see an issue with blacks pretending to be white ... like the movie White Chicks.

This is the definition of blackface I found online and why I feel they are different issues. Blackface is a form of theatrical make-up used predominantly by non-black performers to represent a caricature of a black person. The practice gained popularity during the 19th century and contributed to the spread of racial stereotypes such as the "happy-go-lucky darky on the plantation" or the "dandified coon". In my opinion if this is something you are doing you have issues. I honestly don't get it but if it something you did in your past and have grown out of it then just own it and apologize.


Title: Re: WTH is up with blackface?
Post by: BuccaneerBrad on February 08, 2019, 09:41:54 am
It really all depends on what you're trying to portray.   

Using it to portray being filthy like a chimney sweep (Mary Poppins) should not be deemed offensive.

Using it on combat missions to blend into the foliage like some of my friends who were military have done should not be deemed offensive.   


Title: Re: WTH is up with blackface?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on February 08, 2019, 10:25:10 am
I think there is a huge difference between dressing up as Michael Jackson by also painting yourself darker and blackface in my opinion but people seem hell bent on trying to make them the same.  

At this point in time everyone should be aware of the racist overtones of blackface enough  to avoid it.  It is like the confederate flag, if you are displaying it you are not unaware that it is a racist symbol.  You just don’t have a problem with being racist.

And while you can make a case that some dressing as michael jackson or Urkel was doing it innocently to honor someone the admire.  You can’t make that argument if the other person in the photo has a hood.


Title: Re: WTH is up with blackface?
Post by: CF DolFan on February 08, 2019, 02:01:11 pm
At this point in time everyone should be aware of the racist overtones of blackface enough  to avoid it.  It is like the confederate flag, if you are displaying it you are not unaware that it is a racist symbol.  You just don’t have a problem with being racist offending people who see it as racist.

And while you can make a case that some dressing as michael jackson or Urkel was doing it innocently to honor someone the admire.  You can’t make that argument if the other person in the photo has a hood.
You just don’t have a problem with being racist offending people who see it as racist. I think this would better fit the person flying the Confederate flag. Please don't forget ... many blacks still fly it as well.

The rest I agree with .


Title: Re: WTH is up with blackface?
Post by: pondwater on February 08, 2019, 02:55:33 pm
You just don’t have a problem with being racist offending people who see it as racist. I think this would better fit the person flying the Confederate flag. Please don't forget ... many blacks still fly it as well.

The rest I agree with .
I'm just a dude, playing a dude, disguised as another dude.

If white people want to pretend to be black and black people want to pretend to be white. Fine, fuck em. If Rachel Dolezal and Shaun King want to fake being black and Elizabeth Warren wants to pretend to be an Indian. Fine, fuck them too.

Likewise, if some idiot wants to paint his face black and you get offended. Fuck them and you. YOU are the one with the issue. World full of pussies.....


Title: Re: WTH is up with blackface?
Post by: TonyB0D on February 11, 2019, 05:14:26 am
oh PLEASE.....this clown was just a figurehead for the greatest defensive coaching mind in the history of the game.  everyone knows billy B runs the show, and this idiot was just holding the clipboard on the sidelines.  yeah, check us fins out, we got a great up and coming coord from NE!  HOW MANY FUCKING TIMES HAVE YOU HEARD THAT BEFORE FROM OTHER TEAMS?!?!  kill me now, I am finally finished with this team for good.....thank you for giving me the sweet release i have so long craved.  this will be my last post on the site (dave, please deleted my 15+ year old account), i will see you suckers in the next life.  peace!


Title: Re: WTH is up with blackface?
Post by: Tenshot13 on February 11, 2019, 07:37:43 am
^Wrong thread.  Last post fail lol.


Title: Re: WTH is up with blackface?
Post by: Phishfan on February 11, 2019, 01:36:26 pm
Hilarious.


Title: Re: WTH is up with blackface?
Post by: stinkfish on February 11, 2019, 01:43:40 pm
Rage Quit


Title: Re: WTH is up with blackface?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on February 11, 2019, 02:04:36 pm
I am just here to relish a Dolphin fan admit

 
the greatest defensive coaching mind in the history of the game. ....   billy B

Some of you guys are still holding on to Don Shula as the GOAT. 


Title: Re: WTH is up with blackface?
Post by: CF DolFan on February 11, 2019, 02:53:51 pm
Who peed in Bag of Donuts' cereal? hahaha ... he is so upset about the new coach he doesn't even know where he is posting.


Title: Re: WTH is up with blackface?
Post by: Phishfan on February 11, 2019, 10:18:29 pm
It really all depends on what you're trying to portray.   

Using it to portray being filthy like a chimney sweep (Mary Poppins) should not be deemed offensive.

Using it on combat missions to blend into the foliage like some of my friends who were military have done should not be deemed offensive.   

What the hell are you talking about? None of that represents what we are talking about.


Title: Re: WTH is up with blackface?
Post by: BuccaneerBrad on February 12, 2019, 11:59:41 am
What the hell are you talking about? None of that represents what we are talking about.

Everyone I know says using blackface is racist and offensive.   I'm showing you situations where it isn't, or at least shouldn't be the case


Title: Re: WTH is up with blackface?
Post by: Phishfan on February 12, 2019, 12:48:34 pm
Everyone I know says using blackface is racist and offensive.   I'm showing you situations where it isn't, or at least shouldn't be the case

What you are talking about isn't blackface. It doesn't even belong in the conversation.


Title: Re: WTH is up with blackface?
Post by: Tenshot13 on February 12, 2019, 01:02:37 pm
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