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Title: World Cup
Post by: Fau Teixeira on June 11, 2019, 05:00:06 pm
team USA just set a record, largest margin of victory in a world cup game

they just beat thailand 13-0

good job team USA!


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on June 11, 2019, 05:29:59 pm
Thai team spokesmen Phillip Daniels and Marcus Washington complained that USA was unfairly running up the score.   :)


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CF DolFan on June 12, 2019, 07:20:30 am
Thai team spokesmen Phillip Daniels and Marcus Washington complained that USA was unfairly running up the score.   :)
That's how it is played in tournament sports when point differential comes into play. If they tie Sweden, and it's possible, they will need every goal they can get. Kid tournaments are the same. I'm used to people complaining about things like that but it isn't usually soccer people. Besides ... they were only 2 touchdowns away from beating USA.

In all honesty though ... they could have shown a bit of humility and kept the celebrating to a minimum. Team is led by Alex Morgan who can have the attitude you need to just be glad I'm here although since she got into trouble at Epcot I hear she is treating people much better. I don't think Michelle Akers or Mia Hamm would have been so in your face ... but who knows.


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Tenshot13 on June 12, 2019, 07:46:14 am
I hate that argument.  If you don't want them to run up the score, don't let them score so many points.


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on June 12, 2019, 09:50:25 am
That's how it is played in tournament sports when point differential comes into play. If they tie Sweden, and it's possible, they will need every goal they can get. Kid tournaments are the same. I'm used to people complaining about things like that but it isn't usually soccer people. Besides ... they were only 2 touchdowns away from beating USA.


I get that.  Those two were the Redskins players who started the whining about the Patriots running up the score.


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on June 12, 2019, 10:14:27 am
m. Team is led by Alex Morgan who can have the attitude you need to just be glad I'm here although since she got into trouble at Epcot I

The uproar over that incident exemplifies the double standard between male and female athletes.  She was kicked out of a bar.  Not arrested.  Didn’t assault anyone.  Wasn’t snorting coke off the bar.  Just got into a verbal altercation and told to leave.  And it gets more outrage than  Ray Rice.


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Tenshot13 on June 12, 2019, 10:21:57 am
^As much as I hate the Patriots, and I'll jump on anything that makes them look bad, running up the score wasn't one of them.


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Pappy13 on June 12, 2019, 12:48:58 pm
That's how it is played in tournament sports when point differential comes into play. If they tie Sweden, and it's possible, they will need every goal they can get. Kid tournaments are the same. I'm used to people complaining about things like that but it isn't usually soccer people. Besides ... they were only 2 touchdowns away from beating USA.

In all honesty though ... they could have shown a bit of humility and kept the celebrating to a minimum. Team is led by Alex Morgan who can have the attitude you need to just be glad I'm here although since she got into trouble at Epcot I hear she is treating people much better. I don't think Michelle Akers or Mia Hamm would have been so in your face ... but who knows.
I have a slightly different take on it, but I also agree that the US was not running up the score, they were simply playing till the final whistle blows. This happens from time to time in soccer matches where the game is clearly out of reach, but it's as much of a problem for the team that's in the lead as it is for the team that is behind. There is NOTHING worse then having your opponent STOP playing. THAT is even MORE embarrasing then a 13-0 score. If your opponent stops playing they are essentially saying you shouldn't even be on the field with us. That's what the US was trying to avoid and simply pulling the ball back and kicking it around the back is stopping to play soccer especially the way the US plays.

So while point differentials are important, this is certainly not what the US team was thinking about. They were simply showing respect to the Thai team by continuing to play till the final whistle. That's the professional thing to do. That's actually a show of respect to your opponent. It may not feel that way to people outside the sport, but within the sport it's a given.

I did have one issue and that was that the referee added 3 minutes of stoppage time to the 2nd half. What for? Neither team wanted those 3 extra minutes. C'mon add 1 min and be done with it or even better just blow the whistle at 90:00. No one is going to complain. The US scored the 13th goal in the 93rd minute, that goal would have never been scored had the referee already blown the whistle. You could argue that too was a show of respect to the Thai by the referee, but I don't think it would have been embarrasing for the ref to blow the whistle at 90:00. People both inside the sport and outside I think would have been fine with that.


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Tenshot13 on June 12, 2019, 01:14:00 pm
Here's an idea...instead of complaining they're running up the score, just forfeit.


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CF DolFan on June 12, 2019, 01:43:19 pm
The uproar over that incident exemplifies the double standard between male and female athletes.  She was kicked out of a bar.  Not arrested.  Didn’t assault anyone.  Wasn’t snorting coke off the bar.  Just got into a verbal altercation and told to leave.  And it gets more outrage than  Ray Rice.
I think it has more to do with her being such a b*tch when she was supposedly a US Princess.  She used to treat everyone, outside of her fans, like shit. She was just being her normal self to the police and Epcot employees. Very disrespectful. Since the incident I hear she has turned over a new leaf ... at least around the Orlando City world.


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CF DolFan on June 12, 2019, 01:46:12 pm
I have a slightly different take on it, but I also agree that the US was not running up the score, they were simply playing till the final whistle blows. This happens from time to time in soccer matches where the game is clearly out of reach, but it's as much of a problem for the team that's in the lead as it is for the team that is behind. There is NOTHING worse then having your opponent STOP playing. THAT is even MORE embarrasing then a 13-0 score. If your opponent stops playing they are essentially saying you shouldn't even be on the field with us. That's what the US was trying to avoid and simply pulling the ball back and kicking it around the back is stopping to play soccer especially the way the US plays.

So while point differentials are important, this is certainly not what the US team was thinking about. They were simply showing respect to the Thai team by continuing to play till the final whistle. That's the professional thing to do. That's actually a show of respect to your opponent. It may not feel that way to people outside the sport, but within the sport it's a given.

I did have one issue and that was that the referee added 3 minutes of stoppage time to the 2nd half. What for? Neither team wanted those 3 extra minutes. C'mon add 1 min and be done with it or even better just blow the whistle at 90:00. No one is going to complain. The US scored the 13th goal in the 93rd minute, that goal would have never been scored had the referee already blown the whistle. You could argue that too was a show of respect to the Thai by the referee, but I don't think it would have been embarrasing for the ref to blow the whistle at 90:00. People both inside the sport and outside I think would have been fine with that.
On another note .... I really can't understand why the Thai team did not stack the box more. At about 6 goals I'd have put 9 women in the box. Ugly soccer but it would help to keep the score down. That goalie was mentally defeated way before the game was over.


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on June 12, 2019, 02:05:44 pm
On another note .... I really can't understand why the Thai team did not stack the box more. At about 6 goals I'd have put 9 women in the box. Ugly soccer but it would help to keep the score down. That goalie was mentally defeated way before the game was over.

You can't win by doing that!  At about 6 goals I would have switched to a 2-3-5 formation.  Yeah, you risk losing by an even wider margin but you give yourself a chance to win.  Stack the box and your best case is LOSE by the current margin. 

Then again if I was down by 21 with 2 minutes to go in the fourth in NFL I would be going for it on 4th and kicking onside kicks rather than taking a a knee to end the game.  Go down fighting!


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Phishfan on June 12, 2019, 02:35:18 pm
The uproar over that incident exemplifies the double standard between male and female athletes.  She was kicked out of a bar.  Not arrested.  Didn’t assault anyone.  Wasn’t snorting coke off the bar.  Just got into a verbal altercation and told to leave.  And it gets more outrage than  Ray Rice.
Bullshit


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Tenshot13 on June 12, 2019, 02:39:16 pm
Bullshit
x2 Bullshit


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Phishfan on June 12, 2019, 02:42:15 pm
I'm going to miss most of the tournament because of work. The way the ladies have been playing though, I don't expect much issue until I see the knockout schedule


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Dolphster on June 14, 2019, 09:11:52 am
They need to start celebrating the same way that Brandy Chastain did.  Well, some of them need to start celebrating that way.  Not all of them. 


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Fau Teixeira on June 14, 2019, 09:36:17 am
that's a yellow card now


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Pappy13 on June 14, 2019, 09:50:48 am
This year the sports bra became part of the US Womens team uniform. Just so you know. :)

https://www.wellandgood.com/good-looks/womens-world-cup-sports-bra/


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Dolphster on June 14, 2019, 10:57:11 am
that's a yellow card now

"The Man" has to ruin all good things.   :(


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on June 14, 2019, 06:07:48 pm
that's a yellow card now

That level of celebration should be reserved for the final whistle upon winning the cup...rendering a yellow flag a non-issue.  

And the rule existed before Brandi, to stop men from removing their shirts after every goal.   Like in baseball, don’t flip your bat at every hit.  But if you hit the walk off home run to win the world series - go for it.


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on June 16, 2019, 07:17:42 pm
They have clinched a spot in the round of 16.


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Dolphster on June 17, 2019, 07:32:45 am
They have clinched a spot in the round of 16.

There are a couple of them whose spots I would like to clinch.  Giggity. 


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on June 29, 2019, 08:25:18 am
down goes france...uk next


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: BuccaneerBrad on June 29, 2019, 11:55:37 am
down goes france...uk next

My nine year old niece is in a summer soccer camp.   As part of camp, her and her little friends got to watch this game.   I called her to wish her a happy birthday right when they scored their second goal.   Ahhhhhh, the sound of screaming preteen girls going "Ole, Ole, Ole, Ole"


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on July 04, 2019, 09:53:31 am

In all honesty though ... they could have shown a bit of humility and kept the celebrating to a minimum. Team is led by Alex Morgan who can have the attitude you need to just be glad I'm here although since she got into trouble at Epcot I hear she is treating people much better. I don't think Michelle Akers or Mia Hamm would have been so in your face ... but who knows.

I assume you disapprove of her drinking tea.

Awesome win.  Just need one more.


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CF DolFan on July 05, 2019, 04:00:29 pm
I assume you disapprove of her drinking tea.

Awesome win.  Just need one more.
Not at all. It's like celebrating after a touchdown. The funny part, which she has brought up, is the men do all kinds of celebrations including grabbing their crotch. Not sure why the women get picked on for celebrating.


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on July 05, 2019, 04:27:40 pm
Not at all. It's like celebrating after a touchdown. The funny part, which she has brought up, is the men do all kinds of celebrations including grabbing their crotch. Not sure why the women get picked on for celebrating.

YOU were one of the ones criticizing their celebrations during the Thai game.


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CF DolFan on July 08, 2019, 11:12:29 am
YOU were one of the ones criticizing their celebrations during the Thai game.
If the game is competitive ... I have no issue. If you are beating the pants of them and celebrating like you just won the World cup I do have issue. No problem running up the score but at some point the excessive celebrating is just bullying the other team. If our men could do that too ..... hahahaha ... I'd still feel the same way about them. 


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Pappy13 on July 08, 2019, 11:37:51 am
If the game is competitive ... I have no issue. If you are beating the pants of them and celebrating like you just won the World cup I do have issue. No problem running up the score but at some point the excessive celebrating is just bullying the other team. If our men could do that too ..... hahahaha ... I'd still feel the same way about them. 
They weren't celebrating like they just won the world cup they were celebrating like they just scored a goal in the world cup. Most people never get close to realizing what that feels like so maybe they shouldn't judge. Just my opinion, I could be wrong.


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on July 08, 2019, 12:15:10 pm
They weren't celebrating like they just won the world cup they were celebrating like they just scored a goal in the world cup. Most people never get close to realizing what that feels like so maybe they shouldn't judge. Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

Agree.  You don’t want the team to spike the ball in the end zone, don’t let them get to the end zone.  

Hope neither Kelley O’Hara nor  Lieke Martens have any long term issues because of the match.


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CF DolFan on July 08, 2019, 05:02:50 pm
Agree.  You don’t want the team to spike the ball in the end zone, don’t let them get to the end zone.  

Hope neither Kelley O’Hara nor  Lieke Martens have any long term issues because of the match.
Kelly O'Hara is getting lots of love today. 1) for picking up the flag and 2) for kissing her girlfriend after the game and being normal without sticking her lesbianism in everyone's face.  People like her and Neil Patrick Harris do more for advancing the gay agenda to middle America than Megan Rapino will any day.


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Spider-Dan on July 08, 2019, 09:30:10 pm
I believe this is the mirror image of the "Martin Luther King is making things worse for black people by trying to shove civil rights in everyone's face" argument that was commonly made when MLK was alive, yet is never made now.


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Tenshot13 on July 09, 2019, 07:35:46 am
I believe this is the mirror image of the "Martin Luther King is making things worse for black people by trying to shove civil rights in everyone's face" argument that was commonly made when MLK was alive, yet is never made now.
False equivalence.  It would be more like "People like MLK do more for advancing the civil rights agenda to middle America than Malcolm X will any day. "


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on July 09, 2019, 08:06:35 am
False equivalence.  It would be more like "People like MLK do more for advancing the civil rights agenda to middle America than Malcolm X will any day. "

Once again, a comment made now, but was never made when he was alive.


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Tenshot13 on July 09, 2019, 08:27:30 am
Okay?  My point being

"People like her and Neil Patrick Harris do more for advancing the gay agenda to middle America than Megan Rapino will any day." =/= "I believe this is the mirror image of the "Martin Luther King is making things worse for black people by trying to shove civil rights in everyone's face" argument that was commonly made when MLK was alive, yet is never made now."

CF is comparing homosexuals.  Spider is just pulling a race discussion from out of nowhere when no one said anything about race, and it's a bad comparison to begin with, not a "mirror image".  If I didn't articulate that well the first time, my bad.


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on July 09, 2019, 08:37:58 am
Okay?  My point being

"People like her and Neil Patrick Harris do more for advancing the gay agenda to middle America than Megan Rapino will any day." =/= "I believe this is the mirror image of the "Martin Luther King is making things worse for black people by trying to shove civil rights in everyone's face" argument that was commonly made when MLK was alive, yet is never made now."

CF is comparing homosexuals.  Spider is just pulling the race card when no one said anything about race, and it's a bad comparison to begin with, not a "mirror image".  If I didn't articulate that well the first time, my bad.

There is a reasonable comparison.  CF prefers homosexuals that don’t actively advocated for equality over those that do. Opponents of the civil rights movement preferred blacks that didn’t actively participate in the civil rights movement.



Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Tenshot13 on July 09, 2019, 08:49:16 am
There is a reasonable comparison.  CF prefers homosexuals that don’t actively advocated for equality over those that do. Opponents of the civil rights movement preferred blacks that didn’t actively participate in the civil rights movement.


First off, in this day and age, what inequality?  It doesn't exist anymore, other than a few tenths of a percentage of the population that the media blows up, like a guy that won't bake a cake.   There is an entire month dedicated to homosexuals, Pride month just ended, so please tell me what is so bad for homosexuals in 2019?  The vast majority of homosexuals can live a peaceful life without persecution.  Secondly, no one said those people didn't actively advocate for equality, they just don't aggressively push it in people's faces, because there is no need to do that anymore.  The pendulum has swung in the other direction.


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CF DolFan on July 09, 2019, 09:32:43 am
Tenshot is correct and to drag race into this is textbook Democrat. They have nothing to stand on so they are trying to keep racism alive. Unfortunately for them blacks and Latinos are continuing to #walkaway from that plantation mentality.   

Trump has spent a couple of years in office and he is running on what he has done while life long politicians are running on what they are going to do. Since we are throwing out things that have nothing to do with the conversation I thought I'd throw something out there. hahahaha




Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on July 09, 2019, 09:48:58 am
Tenshot is correct and to drag race into this is textbook Democrat. They have nothing to stand on so they are trying to keep racism alive. Unfortunately for them blacks and Latinos are continuing to #walkaway from that plantation mentality.   

Trump has spent a couple of years in office and he is running on what he has done while life long politicians are running on what they are going to do. Since we are throwing out things that have nothing to do with the conversation I thought I'd throw something out there. hahahaha




YOU not spider was the one introduced politics into a perfectly fine thread about the world cup. 

Trump is running on lies that fools and bigots believe. 


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Fau Teixeira on July 09, 2019, 09:53:25 am
Quote
Trump has spent a couple of years in office and he is running on what he has done

at the risk of feeding the troll here .. what has he done ?


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CF DolFan on July 09, 2019, 10:12:06 am
at the risk of feeding the troll here .. what has he done ?
Not a troll at all. I honestly couldn't care less about this thread or even the political comment I made. Just killing time.  I'm willing to bet I know more about a lot of the women on that team from a personal aspect than anyone here so to hear other people's opinions who have never even met them affects me zero.

Here's your answer although you already know these things.

Due to President Trump’s pro-growth policies, real gross domestic product (GDP) growth exceeded 3 percent over the last four quarters.
More than 5 million jobs have been created since President Trump’s election and the unemployment rate remains below 4 percent.
This is the eighth time this year that the unemployment rate has been below 4 percent.
Prior to this year, the unemployment rate had fallen below 4 percent only five times since 1970.
The unemployment rate for African Americans in May fell to 5.9 percent, which is the lowest rate on record.
Asian and Hispanic-American unemployment rates have reached record lows this year.
Initial weekly jobless claims have hit a nearly 50-year low under President Trump.
Under President Trump, job openings outnumber the unemployed for the first time on record.
Recently, more than two-thirds of Americans rated “now” as a good time to find a quality job, tying a record high in a poll by Gallup.
Americans are seeing more money in their pockets thanks to the booming economy.
In recent months, workers have seen their largest nominal year over year wage growth in nearly a decade.
Median household income rose to a post-recession high.
President Trump’s policies are helping to lift Americans out of poverty.
Since the election, 4.6 million Americans have been lifted off of food stamps.
Consumer confidence has soared under President Trump, recently reaching an 18-year high.
President Trump is delivering on his promise to bring back American manufacturing.
The National Association of Manufacturers’ Outlook Index had the highest annual average in its history over the past year.
Manufacturing added 284,000 jobs in 2018, the most added in a year since 1997
Small Business optimism jumped to a record high under President Trump, according to a survey by the National Federation of Independent Business (NFIB).
The NFIB’s Small Business Optimism Index broke a 35-year record in August.
President Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act into law, ushering in the largest package of tax cuts and reforms in American history.
These tax cuts are delivering real results for American families and workers.
More than 6 million workers received tax cut bonuses and benefits.
More than 100 utility companies have announced lower rates.
President Trump is ensuring American workers receive the training and education they need to compete in today’s economy.
President Trump signed an executive order establishing the National Council for the American worker.
More than 185 companies and associations have signed our “Pledge to America’s Workers,” promising more than 6.4 million new training and career opportunities.
The President signed legislation that reauthorized the Carl D. Perkins Career and Technical Education Act, making more than $1 billion available for career education programs.
President Trump has prioritized the economic empowerment of women.
The women’s unemployment rate recently reached its lowest rate in 65 years.
The Small Business Administration lent approximately $500 million more in capital to women-owned businesses in 2017 compared to 2016.
The Administration helped launch the Women Entrepreneurs Finance Initiative, which could leverage more than $1 billion to support women entrepreneurs.
ROLLING BACK RED TAPE: President Trump is rolling back costly regulations that have burdened hardworking Americans and stifled innovation.

President Trump has followed through on and exceeded his promise to roll back two regulations for every new one created.
President Trump’s Administration surpassed the 2:1 ratio in 2018, eliminating 12 regulations for every new one in 2018.
In 2017, the Trump Administration eliminated 22 regulations for every new one.
Since taking office, President Trump’s deregulation efforts have achieved $33 billion in regulatory savings.
In 2018, these efforts alone delivered $23 billion in benefits to American families and business owners.
President Trump has signed 16 Congressional Review Act resolutions into law, eliminating burdensome Obama-era rules and regulations.
President Trump announced U.S. withdrawal from the Paris Climate Agreement, which would have harmed America’s economy and cost American workers millions of jobs.
President Trump signed an executive order to streamline the permitting process for infrastructure projects with a goal of cutting approval time from up to 10 years to an average of 2 years.
President Trump signed legislation to roll back burdensome Dodd-Frank regulations that harmed community banks.


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Cathal on July 09, 2019, 10:39:20 am
At the risk of saying a "duh" statement, I mean, that's kinda what happens when you inherit an economy that's been on the rise for the last 4 or so years before he took office. He's done more harm than good. Just ask those good ole patriots, the farmers and steel industry workers.


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Tenshot13 on July 09, 2019, 10:43:42 am
...and thus begins the debate of "is it carryover from Obama" or "Trump stimulated the economy in spite of Obama"...in a Women's World Cup thread.  Don't change TDMMC.


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CF DolFan on July 09, 2019, 10:51:14 am
At the risk of saying a "duh" statement, I mean, that's kinda what happens when you inherit an economy that's been on the rise for the last 4 or so years before he took office. He's done more harm than good. Just ask those good ole patriots, the farmers and steel industry workers.
Hahaha ... I guess Obama brought back all those manufacturing jobs that he said couldn't be done too? I swear. You people don't care about facts at all as long as it fits your narrative. Trump's an asshole for sure but he gets shit done!


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Fau Teixeira on July 09, 2019, 11:15:40 am
Hahaha ... I guess Obama brought back all those manufacturing jobs that he said couldn't be done too? I swear. You people don't care about facts at all as long as it fits your narrative. Trump's an asshole for sure but he gets shit done!

I asked for specifics and fair play to you for going down a huge list ..

I do agree that an economic trend started during Obama's administration that's continued through the trump years.

I think the president and administration,  be it obama or bush or trump,  has very little to do with regular boom/bust economic cycles directly.
The fact that:
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President Trump signed legislation to roll back burdensome Dodd-Frank regulations that harmed community banks.
is really bad. Dodd-Frank was enacted for a reason .. the reason is banks will sell their mothers for profits and they give 2 shits for the overall economy. They will bust again and drive us into another financial crash as soon as they're given half a chance.

Trump is really good at claiming credit for things he has nothing to do with .. ask Carrier .. remember this picture:
(https://workingnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Trump-Carrier.jpg)
Guess what happened to all those jobs?

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President Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act into law, ushering in the largest package of tax cuts and reforms in American history.
horrible .. this was a horrible law that did fuck all for anyone except the rich .. they got a super awesome tax cut, everyone else got shit that is set to expire in a couple of years anyways so their tax burden is a net increase

Lets face exactly what's going on here, Trump is doing everything he can to make money for himself and for his rich friends, and to allow his friends to make as much money off of america as they can. Internationally he insults our allies and cozy's up to dictators and despots because they fund him and because he's too stupid to prevent it. Everything else is just bullshit crumbs he tosses to people on the right to keep them looking away from how much he's trying to steal from america.

I won't even get started on the fact that he's a serial rapist and that he may have raped children with his buddy epstein there just aren't enough words for that.


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Fau Teixeira on July 09, 2019, 11:17:15 am
and yay world cup !


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CF DolFan on July 09, 2019, 01:10:13 pm
Fau... not sure how you can say Trump is only making money for he and his friends.
His net worth continues to drop while past presidents somehow came out with waaaaay more than they went into the job with.

From Snopes ...

As of 2017, the Clintons were estimated to have made $240 million since Bill Clinton left office in 2001, the Obamas’ combined net worth was reckoned to be about $24 million, while the Trumps’ net worth was thought to have dropped to about $3.1 billion. Suffice it to say that the Clinton and Obama families have done very well for themselves since leaving the White House, but the Trumps have realized no similar windfall (and have possibly seen their overall wealth decline a bit).


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Dolphster on July 09, 2019, 01:31:09 pm
The loony right's meltdown during the Obama administration was pretty funny.  "Obama is going to be the end of our democracy!"    But the loony left and their Trump Derangement Syndrome is even funnier.  Facts and the truth seem to play zero role in anyone's political rantings anymore.  Life in America today is like watching the real life version of the movie Idiocracy.   

PS, girl power.  Congrats on the world cup.  Soccer is still the most agonizingly, painful sport to watch, but congrats nonetheless. 


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Tenshot13 on July 09, 2019, 01:31:58 pm
The loony right's meltdown during the Obama administration was pretty funny.  "Obama is going to be the end of our democracy!"    But the loony left and their Trump Derangement Syndrome is even funnier.  Facts and the truth seem to play zero role in anyone's political rantings anymore.  Life in America today is like watching the real life version of the movie Idiocracy.   

PS, girl power.  Congrats on the world cup.  Soccer is still the most agonizingly, painful sport to watch, but congrats nonetheless. 
I don't think I've ever agreed with a post more in my life.


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Phishfan on July 09, 2019, 03:38:31 pm
Fau... not sure how you can say Trump is only making money for he and his friends.
His net worth continues to drop while past presidents somehow came out with waaaaay more than they went into the job with.

From Snopes ...

As of 2017, the Clintons were estimated to have made $240 million since Bill Clinton left office in 2001, the Obamas’ combined net worth was reckoned to be about $24 million, while the Trumps’ net worth was thought to have dropped to about $3.1 billion. Suffice it to say that the Clinton and Obama families have done very well for themselves since leaving the White House, but the Trumps have realized no similar windfall (and have possibly seen their overall wealth decline a bit).

I find it important to point out that this describes wealth accumulated by Clinton and Obama after they left office,  not while in office which was your point.


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Phishfan on July 09, 2019, 03:44:23 pm


 Soccer is still the most agonizingly, painful sport to watch, but congrats nonetheless. 

Next to golf, NASCAR, regular season NBA, and don't even get me started on the debatable sports like bowling.


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Fau Teixeira on July 09, 2019, 03:50:32 pm
Soccer is still the most agonizingly, painful sport to watch, but congrats nonetheless. 

that's just wrong.. baseball is way more boring and slow and agonizing


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Tenshot13 on July 09, 2019, 03:52:38 pm
I used to love watching a baseball game, take a nap, wake up around the 7th inning stretch and watch the rest...usually when the good parts happen anyways.  I tuned into the Rays/Yankees game over the weekend in the ninth inning, just in time to watch my Rays win it with a walkoff HR.  Pretty satisfying lol.


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CF DolFan on July 09, 2019, 04:19:56 pm
Soccer was boring right up until I understood it. It is quite the complicated game of chess. Barry Hulshoff from Ajax and his protege taught me quite a bit. The two of them used to coach at my club.  Once I learned the game and started watching what is happening and the events off the ball it became pretty intense. It's not my top sport to watch but I do enjoy it ... especially if i know any of the people involved albeit coaching or playing.