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I wish we had Incognito right now! hahahaha

We have 6 picks in the first three rounds (and many afterwards) and 130 million dollars to spend. We could have a whole new team in just one year.

I think that Miami is making a mistake here.  I don't think it's like the old NFL where you rebuild from the bottom.  The way that free agency works, you alienate your good players and they leave before you can stockpile picks and get a good team around your veterans.  I think it's way easier to build from the middle.

And our culture is screwed up.  We've not had any consistency in leadership, players and fans both don't trust the direction things are going.  We fired our coach to bring in another guy to fail under the worst of circumstances.  The QBs here have no chance.  And   

I still think, in some way, we have the stink of the Incognito debacle all over us.

Your main point in the thread was rather ridiculous, which is why it wasn't addressed.  Not even the most pessimistic environmentalist believes the United States of America will cease to exist before 2030 due to climate change.  (Whether we cease to exist due to other reasons is perhaps another story.)

How many top QBs in the league today were #1 overall (as opposed to first rounders)?

Even if you exclude Brady, Brees, and Russell Wilson, there are a LOT of good QBs like Big Ben, Rivers, Rodgers, Wentz, Watson, Mahomes that were not picked #1.

Yeah, but we haven't found any of them. A lot of times when a QB goes #1, he is not the best player in the draft.

So how many times has the first QB picked (so not necessarily #1) not been the best QB in that draft?

Ben is better than Eli, Rodgers is better than Smith, Wilson is better than Luck (especially now), Mahomes and Watson both look better than Trubisky, jury is still out on Goff and Wentz.

My point is that the magical "#1 pick" is not as special as it may seem. 

They say by 2050 Florida will be completely under water.   We'll all be old and ready to die by then.

They say by 2050 Florida will be completely under water.   We'll all be old and ready to die by then.

So how many times has the first QB picked (so not necessarily #1) not been the best QB in that draft?

Ben is better than Eli, Rodgers is better than Smith, Wilson is better than Luck (especially now), Mahomes and Watson both look better than Trubisky, jury is still out on Goff and Wentz.

My point is that the magical "#1 pick" is not as special as it may seem. 

So how many times has the first QB picked (so not necessarily #1) not been the best QB in that draft?

Ben is better than Eli, Rodgers is better than Smith, Wilson is better than Luck (especially now), Mahomes and Watson both look better than Trubisky, jury is still out on Goff and Wentz.

My point is that the magical "#1 pick" is not as special as it may seem. 

Ok, that answers the question.  So the Dolphins do have time to become Super Bowl contenders.  

The next question, then we should all stop having children, right?

When I am on a dating site, and a woman tells me she wants to have children, is it accurate to say that that is not a good idea because the planet won't be inhabitable for them?

It also affects financial planning.

I'm still waiting on the "new ice age" that the "scientists" assured us was coming in the 1970s.   Alarmists have been entertaining intelligent people with their comedy gold for centuries.  And they always will. Wherever there is easy money to be made, there will be statistics to support it.

I have a really hard time believing the sincerity of your questions, but, no, Florida won't be entirely under water by 2050. The most extreme (pessimistic) models do have a very large portion of the state under water by 2100, though, but the assumption that the world would just continue to do nothing in the face of constant sea-level rise threatening every major coastal city is preposterous.

An increase of sea-level by 5 feet by 2050 would not be completely unrealistic, although it would represent quite an acceleration from the current 9" increase since the 50's. The problem is that the amount of ice is ridiculous. A complete melt of everything would correspond to about 230 feet of sea-level rise. Thermal expansion (warm water is less dense than cold water) would add another 70 feet or so to that, so figure around 300 feet total. Needless to say, that would be catastrophic and isn't going to happen. I'm simply mentioning it to show how insane the amount of ice is.

Anyway, 5 feet by 2050 could happen. In that case, about 700k Floridians would find their homes under water, mainly Miami-Dade and Broward County, along with Pinellas County (Tampa). This wouldn't happen overnight, though, but at a rate of a couple of inches a year on average. Historically, there have been significant swings (here is a link (https://sealevelrise.org/states/florida/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwzozsBRCNARIsAEM9kBMWDbNkw2pUtF06iSmDyRKOBk56zb_kLZirTQy081xuY1WhT4DwSg0aAuJGEALw_wcB) to the sea level changes for the Miami area since 1950), with an amplitude of about a couple of inches, so you could have no change one year and 4 inches the next. That sort of thing.

Still, at some point economics will kick in and it will be cheaper to do something about it than just to let things happen. The first few feet won't hurt too much (killing some prime real estate and putting about 50k people's homes under water), but it gets pretty bad pretty quickly after that.

As for what to do, just ask the Netherlands. Amsterdam is more than 5 feet below sea level (more like 6-7 feet) and is protected by some serious engineering projects, including a billion dollar sea wall. A billion dollars is nothing compared to the cost of wiping out the homes of half a million to a million people, though, so simple economics will dictate action.

In other words, no using flooding as an excuse to not have children.

I'm still waiting on the "new ice age" that the "scientists" assured us was coming in the 1970s.   Alarmists have been entertaining intelligent people with their comedy gold for centuries.  And they always will. Wherever there is easy money to be made, there will be statistics to support it.

1st or 2nd century CE: Numerous passages in the Bible predict that the Second coming will occur within the lifetime of Jesus' disciples.
Jan. 1 1000: Coinciding with the early crusades, many Christians believed this would be the end of the world. This could have been far worse than the Y2K computer problems, if mass communication had existed and more people actually knew what day of the year it was.
1284: Pope Innocent III added 666 years to the date Islam was founded.
1794: Charles Wesley one of the founders of Methodism, used Revelations to predict the end times.
1806: The Prophet Hen of Leeds a hoax involving a chicken laying eggs that said "Christ is coming".
1832: Joseph Smith founder of the Mormons included a prediction in his writings.
1850: Ellen White founder of the Seven Day Adventists made several predictions about the end of times.
1936 or maybe 1998: Edgar Cayce, born in 1877 received message in a trance from the “Source”. His end time prophecies involved Atlantis reappearing, the West Coast of the United States falling away, Japan sinking and earthquakes in South America.
1947: Herbert W. Armstrong founded the Worldwide Church of God. He created the “Plain Truth” magazine extolling his personal version of Christianity. He never choose a specific date, but taught extensively of Armageddon and the coming of Jesus. A controversial figure, he died in 1986. The church he left behind is now considered mainstream.
Jim Bakker: began a television ministry, The Praise The Lord Club, claiming that it would broadcast twenty-four hour Christian television until the return of Jesus Christ. He set the mold for much of Christian TV to follow. In 1988 he was charged with fraud for illegal fund raising for a theme park called Heritage USA.
Sep. 13, 1988: In his book 88 Reasons Why the Rapture Will Be in 1988, Edgar Whisenant predicted that the Rapture would occur between Sep. 11 and Sep. 13, 1988.
1994: Harold Camping
2006: Michael Drosnin has written software, available on the Internet, that draws words out of the Bible by selecting letters according to formulas. He claims to have found predictions for 9/11, Yitzhak Rabin’s assassination and the end of days.
2006: Shoko Asahara, an acupuncturist from 1980 mixed Eastern and Western traditions including Nostradamus and claimed he conversed with people from the future (for him then, that was 2006). They told him WW III was coming. His followers somehow figured it was best to bring these predictions into reality, so they released Sarin nerve gas into the Tokyou subway system on March 20, 1995.
May 21, 2011: Harold Camping
Oct. 21, 2011: Harold Camping
7 October, 2015: Chris McCann of the eBible fellowship

This is a (very partial) list of popularly predicted dates for the apocalypse:

people have been getting suckered for centuries you're right.

The difference is that predictions for natural events like climate change are backed by facts, measurements and observation. out of which we try to predict future patterns. When scientists learn something new or have their predictions invalidated they build upon that information to further increase the accuracy of their next effort. That's the scientific method.

We'll see soon. The idiot savior of the Democratic party made a prediction. AOC predicts Miami won't exist 'in a few years'

... because what's not realistic is Miami not existing in a few years,

In other words, no using flooding as an excuse to not have children.

This is a (very partial) list of popularly predicted dates for the apocalypse:

people have been getting suckered for centuries you're right.

The difference is that predictions for natural events like climate change are backed by facts, measurements and observation. out of which we try to predict future patterns. When scientists learn something new or have their predictions invalidated they build upon that information to further increase the accuracy of their next effort. That's the scientific method.

"How much do you WANT the books to say we made in profit this quarter?"    Wherever there is money to be made, there will be "scientific research" to back it.

Actually...the "money to be made" is being made by the folks who are destroying the environment...the ones trying to sell "there's no global warming" to whichever suckers will believe them.

The difference is that predictions for natural events like climate change are backed by facts, measurements and observation. out of which we try to predict future patterns. When scientists learn something new or have their predictions invalidated they build upon that information to further increase the accuracy of their next effort. That's the scientific method.

I don't disagree with your statement that the environment destroyers are making big money but there is huge money being made on both sides of this topic.  There are many "scholars" who are getting fat and happy off of government grants to "study" climate change and come up with statistics that support whatever the grant issuers want supported.  If someone gave me a $500K grant and 6 months to produce support of climate change, I'd be the biggest climate change alarmist the world has ever seen.  Capitalism trumps (no pun intended) responsible action every single time. 

D4L, he's lying, don't believe his nonsense! You absolutely should not procreate! Ever! No matter what!

I mean if the doomsday predictors of climate change really believed it they would be living accordingly but most are not.

You sound like my parents, who keep pushing me to have a vasectomy

In some ways, this is akin to saying, "If Christians really believed the Bible is true they would be living accordingly but most are not."  You can "discredit" nearly any political position by pointing out the contradictions in practice... for example, why do pro-gun Republican politicians, who tell us that having more guns increases safety,  also insist that guns not be allowed in courtrooms or capitol buildings?  Why do social conservatives who believe homosexuals are destroying the sanctity of marriage then go out and get divorces themselves?

I have a proposal.

Why don't we set up a program to collect and desalinate seawater from the rising sea levels and give it to areas affected by the summer droughts?