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Lots of football to be played but we are currently tied in 4th place with the Bengals and Steelers. I guess we are worst case 5th since we own the Steeler's pick too. Crazy to think we don't have the lead on the waiver wire ... hahaha.


  https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/09/24/waiver-claim-order-changes-this-week/

Losing to the chargers should "improve" that.  Dolphins "problem" is they lost to two 3-0 teams and one 2-1 team.  Dolphins need to lose to sucky teams too to move up the draft order.   

ha .. our strength of schedule is too hard :(

Way too early for strength of schedule tiebreakers. Let's revisit this in November when we are 0-10 and hopefully have at least a 2 game lead on that #1 pick.

It is relevant for the waiver wire.

Week 9 and 14 could be pivotal games in determining the 1&2 spots.

i get that but did find it as an eye opener. With as many crappy teams and a couple with bad breaks it just might come down to tiebreakers at the end of the season. If that was point differential we’d be a shoe-in! Hahaha

You play the Jets x2, Bengals, Steelers, Washington, so with the exception of the Broncos, the Dolphins “control their own destiny” without the need for tiebreakers.  LOL. And the fact that you have 5 games with teams that are currently winless, should help SOS. 

It would be more alarming around Week 8. The Bills are undefeated right now after two opponent chokes, so it's just too early. I'll worry if we beat the Jets, to me they are the only contender to our crown of worst franchise and they will quit on Gase if they start out 0-7.

I have the utmost confidence in their ability to lose to both good and bad teams.  They will have the 1st or 2nd pick in Round 1 next year.   

I did too until that Cowboys performance. I mean, we made enough dumb mistakes to not make that a nailbiter till the end, with the goal line fumble and Flores not challenging that TD ruled out. That scares me that we might be able to beat the Jets not just once but twice. Teams who are supposed to be 1-15 can give you effort the whole year because they know they are bad, but teams that were supposed to be better and maybe even be a playoff contender like the Jets? They check out around that 6th or 7th loss.

Well, I figure if the Jets end up with the #1 pick and the Fins have the #2, I wouldn't think that the Jets would pick a QB since they have Darnold.  But of course they might trade down to a team that wants that #1 pick for a QB.   

i think this would be ideal for the dolphins .. if the jets trade out of 1 and hand someone like the steelers Tua .. that way we can trade down in the round .. pick up more picks the following year and build up our trenches with more picks and then use a first next year on lawrence

I’ve read too many times on this board to just wait to draft Lawrence from Clemson in 2021. That’s assuming that dolphins will have #1 draft pick then. That can’t be assumed. We can assume that dolphins s will have #1 pick in 2020. That’s when they should draft a QB. Fromm preferably.

Draft a QB (probably Tua) this draft. Let Rosen start until the line looks able to protect the rookie. If that means sitting a year, so be it. I know it's not the popular thing these days, but there's noting to indicate that it hurts a high pick to sit a season.

Most teams don't have a first round pick in his second year (third next year) to "fill in" until the line is ready. Seriously, I see no reason Rosen couldn't turn out to be a solid starter in the NFL. That's a different discussion, but while he did very poorly last year, he did better than Bradford, who played while the offensive line still resembled one. There just aren't enough quarterbacks to draw a statistical comparison, even if you discount the very extenuating circumstances. He will likely put up bad numbers this year too, because, well, who wouldn't with the Dolphins? It wouldn't bother me in the least to have him under center for another year, assuming he can stay healthy.

Lawrence is going #1 overall, so it is unlikely we spend $130 Million in free agency and a mountain of draft picks in 2020 just to be the worst team in the league for 2021. If we lose out on Tua, maybe we take that Oregon kid. I can only see us not taking a QB if we somehow finish 4-12 or Rosen miraculously makes the Pro Bowl.

Tua, Tua, Tua. Seriously, How come nobody on here seems to like FRomm?

Every place I see talking about Fromm says he is projected in the first two rounds while the other 2 guys are definite Top 10 picks as of now. I don't know much about the kid, but I wouldn't chance it. Gotta go for the 'sure thing". Maybe that is Hilbert once the season is done, who knows?

Everyone is too focused on Tua. He plays on a loaded team, he may not transition to the NFL star people are dreaming about, especially if it going to take two or three drafts to fill the holes.

Good News!!!!!!

Dolphins are now in 4th.

Washington and Denver tied for 1st.

then Cinci in 3rd then Dolphins, then Jets.

Just like the Jeffersons we are moving on up!!

Skins and Bengals would definitely take a QB #1 and probably even the Broncos too since Drew Lock is a project they drafted in the 2nd round. Jets won't but you gotta look out for trades too. Some team is always around to trade away 7 picks to move up 12 spots.

It will be interesting to see who tries harder to lose when the Fins play the Redskins in a couple weeks.  This may be one of the worst games in the history of the NFL.   Jay Gruden was asked by a reporter this morning what his QB plan is for this weekend's game against the Patriots.  Gruden replied, "We don't really have a plan yet."   Now a lot of coaches would give that answer if they are intentionally trying to be vague or they don't want to show their hand to their opponent for the week.  But Washington is so bad, their QBs are so bad, and Gruden is so bad, that I think he was being totally honest with the reporter.  I don't think he has any idea who he is going to start.  Sorry, kind of got off track here, but I would say that Washington may be the biggest threat to the Fins having the #1 pick next year.  Looking forward to the Miami-Washington game just to see how bad football can actually be.   Has there ever been a 0-0 tie in the modern era of the NFL?

I forgot that the Skins just drafted some kid with the #15 overall pick, so they won't draft a QB......probably.

Skins are definitely bad but I still think they'll pull out 3 wins or so thanks to their new coach which should come within a few weeks.

No, lowest scoring game is 3-0, lowest scoring tie 6-6.

if you're ever curious about NFL scores you can check out:

https://nflscorigami.com/

it shows the score distribution of every NFL game ever played as well as scores that have never happened.

last week's tampa  /rams game filled in a square .. it was the first time a 55/40 game had ever been played

That was kind of a cool site.  Thanks for sharing it!

I don't see the "1" row getting a green square anytime soon. (Would require a safety on a point-after try.)

The double-safety row (4) isn't getting much love, either. It only avoids being completely untouched territory thanks to a 1923 (!) game between the Chicago Cardinals and Racine Legion. The Chicago Cardinals, a founding team in the NFL, were actually previously called the Racine Cardinals. The Cardinals moved to St. Louis 1960, before Bill Bidwell moved them to Arizona in '88. Bill Bidwell sadly passed away yesterday. The team has been in the Bidwell family since 1923.

my favorite of the odd scores is this one:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/197810220buf.htm

the 3-5 bills beating the 0-8 bengals 5-0 in 1972

The only truly impossible scores are 1-0, 1-1, 2-1, 3-1, 4-1, 5-1, 7-1.

4-4 is probably the most difficult

8-1 would be my suggestion. After all, there has never been a 1-point safety scored in the history of the NFL. 8-1 combines the 1-point safety with a touchdown (as it must) and a regular safety. The odds of a defensive safety (as opposed to the offensive 1-point safety like the Patriots almost scored last season) are exceptionally low.

Yeah, 8-1 might be harder.

A two point conversion gets you 8 also

Yes, but then the other team wouldn't be able to get 1 point. That single point comes from a safety on the scoring team's point after try (regardless of whether they went for 2 or not).

FYO is right.  You can’t get a score of 8-1 with a successful 2 pt conversation.  You need a TD and the other team scores a safety on the try after (never been done) and you get a safety.

Correct. I wasn't thinking the 1 through.

Big game next week vs Washington both teams are winless. 

They're so fucking bad, I don't know if we can run the table and go 0-16 with games against the Redskins, Bengals and 2 against the Jets. None of these teams have a future and it shows with their on field performance. We know our future can be very bright and these guys are playing for a spot in that future so we will probably win 1-2 games. That sucks.

Washington just fired Gruden so hopefully this lights a spark underneath the team and they finish with 4 or 5 wins.

LOL, the early line today has the Redskins a 3.5 point favorite.  How absolutely horrible does a team have to be to be a 3.5 point underdog to the freaking Redskins.  At home!   

Good week for tanking as the Redskins and Jets both won, leaving the only winless teams us and the Bengals who are TRULY awful. I mean, I think we will beat them by double digits later this year, they have no future or hope.

Now in first based on SOS.

Pittsburgh is 8th and the Texans are 25th. Houston should stay where they are, never know with the Steelers.

The Bengals are KILLING ME.

I honestly think they are running the table and going 0-16. They are a terrible team with terrible coaching, terrible management and playing in a terrible city. Not only should we beat them, I think we crush them by 30. They are going to steal Tua from us or make us give them all of our extra first rounders to move up 1 or 2 spots.

Week 16 history is made when two 0-14 teams meet.

And both will be looking at QB with the #1 pick.

Am I the only one thinking that Miami would be better off with the #2 pick and let the Bengals make the big mistake with the 1st pick? There can't be 2 horrible bust QB's in next year's draft can there?

I'd be surprised if we don't have at least one win by then. The players seem to be forcing the coach's hand by playing a 37 year old to win meaningless games and fuck up our draft. He's bound to win at least one. We gotta worry about the Falcons too, their coach will be fired in a few weeks, per the owner, so maybe they get a new coach motivational bump and win some.