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We go it. Yea, it took a couple tries to download with all the traffic, but now that it's up and running, there is so much content...

Jumped straight into the Pixar shorts.. family digs those. I'll be starting The Mandolorian probably tonight.

Anyone else checking this out?

I got it.

I watched the Mandalorian and the Disney Imagineer first episode.  And then my girls dabbled in some shorts, some shows the know, and I put on some older stuff too.

I really hope my kids latch on to the back-log of live-action TV from the old Disney channel days.  I think that will provide a lot of content if they dig it.

I signed up for the Disney+ package with Hulu/ESPN...looking forward to watching the new Mandalorian show.

You guys be careful! Some of that older Disney stuff has "culturally sensitive content". LMAO ... this world is just crazy to me. They banned Song of the South a long time ago so apparently it doesn't take much these days.

So did I.   $12.99 a month is a very good deal.

Don't you think that's a little hyperbolic?  Nobody BANNED it.  They just don't sell it anymore.  It's their own choice.

Fair enough but they did release it in Europe. Either way they do not allow American audiences see it any longer because people here complained. Some of us had to purchase a bootleg copy from Europe just to show our kids this classic movie. I'm sure it won't be much longer before Dumbo and others are cast aside here as well.

Good point...flying elephants are so fucking sensitive these days.

 :-\

Disney+ is now home to classic movies like Peter Pan, Dumbo, and Lady and the Tramp — all of which now come with a disclaimer that they “may contain outdated cultural depictions.”

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/debanjalibose/disney-disclaimer-racism-popular-movies

Sad that they have to post that disclaimer because certain types of people could be offended.   The LSU running back had a helluva performance against Alabama and someone got offended by him hugging his dad after the game.  Everyone gets offended over something these days.

Disney made a corporate decision to post the disclaimer, they aren't forced by anyone. If you are upset about the disclaimer look at Disney itself.

It's also not because people are offended.  That's a copout.

Movies that are old like that require that they be seen in a different context.  Peter Pan's treatment of Native Americans can't fly by today's standards and today's culture, so it's helpful to have those things exist within the context that they were created.

And even with Song of the South, it's not like people all of a sudden think it's a misrepresentation of slavery and stereotypes.  There were protests against that movie in the 40s, but black people didn't exactly have a lot of clout back then.


I'm not a prude when it comes to racist content.  In fact, I think that hiding and censoring only hurts the discussion and it's important that we recognize these things and learn from them.  But you have to do so within the context.  I watched Birth of a Nation, and I can't watch it earnestly as a film where the KKK are the heroes.  You have to now watch it as a historical piece. 

I agree with Dave.

 The movies were racist when they were made, Walt Disney was racist and Nazi supporter. He used his movie house to propagate stereotypes.   

The fact that the movies were acceptable at the time only proves how willing society was to accept racism as ok. 

Not unlike the team name for Washington, it was racist in 1938, it is not a new. thing.

If YOU bemoan the loss of the “Song of the South” you are basically saying you want to go back to the age and values of the Jim Crow era  and a racist society were it is generally accepted negros are inferior and do not deserve equal treatment. 

Shaggy used to see flying elephants in the Mystery Machine with Scooby-Doo.

It's free for a year if you have Verizon.  So, easy choice.  I would have anyway but it's a nice perk.

I can only speak for myself. I'm not offended they posted a disclaimer. I'm upset that they even felt the slightest need they had to because people get offended so easily. It's the same as the mattress tag, a chainsaw that says do not hold the wrong end of a chainsaw, a coat hanger that says do not swallow or any other stupid warning label people put out. Behind each and every warning disclaimer are some really stupid people. The snowflakes that get triggered by old movies needs therapy and not more labels IMO.

One of my favorite memes along those lines is one that said:

i'm just gonna toss this up here:

https://www.livescience.com/33039-why-do-mattresses-have-do-not-remove-tags.html

#capitalism

Okay so......  if you are offended by Disney’s treatment of African Americans in Song of the South you are overly sensitive.  But honoring  Kunta Kinte is offensive and unamerican. 

Did I get that correct?

Yet it appears you're triggered by a disclaimer because you, individually, can't see the need for it.  I think sometimes folks need to be careful tossing around the term "snowflake."  Everyone is triggered by something, some folks can accept it and some can't. I think the easiest thing to do is insult when things aren't understood, or disagreed.

I think you have a very liberal definition of "triggered". Me thinking it's wrong or stupid is far from going out of my way to protest and let Disney know I disagree to the extreme point I won't stop until they do things my way.

I do get triggered by things but it certainly isn't political correctness. I hate people speaking loudly on the phone or playing loud videos on their phone in restaurants, or parents who wont remove their screaming kid from an indoor public area, or parents who ignore their kids running around in restaurants or more recently ... a movie theater during the movie. LOL ... now that I write it out I guess it's rude people and lazy parents.

Perception is reality.  What you said is -


You're upset.  At the end of the day a disclaimer, which has not bearing on your life and how you live it, upset you.  Now, far be it for me to tell you what to be upset with and what not to be upset with.  But I think it's ironic when people grandstand and call folks "snowflakes" on one hand but can't see a similar situation in the other.  I'm not calling you a snowflake, I actually think the use of the term is really, really stupid.  I feel, my opinion, tossing "snowflake" back and forth is conceding the inability to view things in any other way than your own, even if you disagree.   

I can see where someone would think a person upset by a disclaimer may have thin skin.

Maine ... are you seriously saying that you interpret "I'm upset that they even felt the slightest need they had to" as being overly-emotional, easily offended, and unable to deal with an opposing opinion? LMBO ... I'd say that's a huge stretch.

First off if I couldn't handle differing opinions I certainly would be on this page where I, as a conservative, am typically in the minority. As well ... if that were true then everyone who gets bothered by something would be a snowflake ... unable to deal with an opposing opinion ... and we certainly know that's not true. Not being able to have a differing opinion in the US is a rather new concept and is why the term "snowflake" has become so prevalent.

I feel the term "snowflake" is tossed around when folks can't handle an opinion or a tolerance outside of their own.  Because THEY don't like a certain item, or feel a specific subject should be tolerated in a different manner - someone else is a "snowflake."  I've seen it used in this manner on this board. 

Trust me, I understand what the idea of the word is supposed to be.  And if we want this to really spiral into something it shouldn't, I feel liberal / left leaning people can be some of the most intolerant people on the planet (while screaming for tolerance).  But I also think, again - my opinion - the majority of the time the term "snowflake" is used the person using it should put a mirror up and take a look.  And, they always refuse.  They'll just scream "snowflake" louder. 

I think earlier in this thread Dave provided a wonderful summary of why a disclaimer on items made in a previous time may be needed for things shown now, in today's culture, watched with today's eyes; created with minds of yesterday.  I'm failing to see where being culturally sensitive is being a "snowflake," or how it applies to a warning label of not using a hair dryer in the shower.  Maybe I'm dense.  Well, I know I am...but maybe more so on this subject.