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Title: Have you completely given up?
Post by: MaineDolFan on November 25, 2019, 12:42:57 pm
The activity on the board is massively quiet.  Have you mailed it in on Miami to the point you feel they aren't worth talking about?


Title: Re: Have you completely given up?
Post by: Phishfan on November 25, 2019, 12:51:11 pm
I'm struggling to find things to say about them right now. They are so bad I used the second and third quarters to take a nap. If I can't get excited on game day I definitely have a hard time during the week.


Title: Re: Have you completely given up?
Post by: CF DolFan on November 25, 2019, 01:52:11 pm
I try to find positives, like Parker and Baker, but it's hard to stay interested. If I'm being honest the only thing I really care about right is where we end up drafting. 


Title: Re: Have you completely given up?
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on November 25, 2019, 01:53:25 pm
Lack of things to discuss. A lot of our young players are injured so it makes watching the games a chore. Plus, how many times can we have the argument over whether or not we want them to lose for a draft pick or win games for pride?

I'm following the other teams closer for draft picks now that Miami has gone with Fitzy the whole way.


Title: Re: Have you completely given up?
Post by: Dave Gray on November 25, 2019, 02:52:47 pm
It's kind of this weird thing.  I wouldn't say I'm indifferent, but I don't ENJOY rooting against my team to lose.  I'm OK with it, when it's happening, but it's hard to watch a game with that in mind.

Since I don't think that we really have much of an interest in players that aren't going to be on the team later anyway, it's hard to be invested in these players to play well.

The only real bright spot is what you can find in Flores and how he's handling the situation. 

There's just not very much to be passionate about.


Title: Re: Have you completely given up?
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on November 25, 2019, 03:03:58 pm
It's kind of this weird thing.  I wouldn't say I'm indifferent, but I don't ENJOY rooting against my team to lose.  I'm OK with it, when it's happening, but it's hard to watch a game with that in mind.

Since I don't think that we really have much of an interest in players that aren't going to be on the team later anyway, it's hard to be invested in these players to play well.

The only real bright spot is what you can find in Flores and how he's handling the situation. 

There's just not very much to be passionate about.

Very good point. I live in NY so I only see like 3-4 games a year and as much as I want them to lose every game, even I can't help but root for them deep down when I actually see them on TV.


Title: Re: Have you completely given up?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on November 25, 2019, 05:51:14 pm
This board was a lot more active than this in 2007 and that team sucked worse.


Title: Re: Have you completely given up?
Post by: Spider-Dan on November 26, 2019, 02:02:30 am
If MIA had traded away Ronnie Brown, Vernon Carey, and Chris Chambers right before the 2007 season started, we probably wouldn't have cared much about that season, either.


Title: Re: Have you completely given up?
Post by: Dolphster on November 26, 2019, 07:52:27 am
It's kind of this weird thing.  I wouldn't say I'm indifferent, but I don't ENJOY rooting against my team to lose.  I'm OK with it, when it's happening, but it's hard to watch a game with that in mind.

Since I don't think that we really have much of an interest in players that aren't going to be on the team later anyway, it's hard to be invested in these players to play well.

The only real bright spot is what you can find in Flores and how he's handling the situation. 

There's just not very much to be passionate about.

Good point, Dave.  I think that pretty much sums it up for me as well. 


Title: Re: Have you completely given up?
Post by: CF DolFan on November 26, 2019, 09:09:51 am
This board was a lot more active than this in 2007 and that team sucked worse.
That team was much more talented than this debacle. We had a coaching issue and should have never had the record we did. Flores and his coaches would have won a lot of games with that team.


Title: Re: Have you completely given up?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on November 26, 2019, 09:38:03 am
That team was much more talented than this debacle. We had a coaching issue and should have never had the record we did. Flores and his coaches would have won a lot of games with that team.

I don’t recall anyone rooting for a draft pick that year.  And there was plenty of activity in “around the NFL” although  most of it centered around dislike of NE.


Title: Re: Have you completely given up?
Post by: fyo on November 26, 2019, 10:12:59 am
It's hard to know whether something is worth talking about (or even thinking about) or if it's just the talent on the field being what it is. For example, I get annoyed during games that our coverage 20 yards deep just stays 5 yards off the receiver, despite having safety help 10-15 yards away with no other receiver on that side of the field. Incredibly soft. It almost seems like our corners aren't always aware they have safety help. At all.

Or when our running back takes the ball 20 yards sideways, but cannot manage to get more than a single yard downfield. Lack of running back talent? Poor play calling (sure seems like these plays take FOREVER to develop)? Bad offensive line?

Meh, it's hard to care. It's hard to know WHEN to care.

There's no question I want to the team to win during games, but, yeah, meh.


Title: Re: Have you completely given up?
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on November 26, 2019, 04:55:21 pm
I think it should be noted that if we draft a QB and appear to nail it in the draft and free agency that game threads will be back to 7 or 8 pages since we will have high hopes. The Bills are mediocre and are 8-3, so clearly 80% of the league is trash. I expect to compete for a playoff spot in 2020.

Unless we start the season 0-5 then back to sadness.


Title: Re: Have you completely given up?
Post by: hordman on November 26, 2019, 05:44:41 pm
I have to admit, the last 2 weeks almost have the same feeling as we did in weeks 1-4.  They turned the corner a little in early October, showed they weren't giving up and then of course the wins.

That euphoric feeling after the 2-game winning streak has completely faded and now you're left with "how bad we gonna smacked this week?" or "who's not playing this week?" or even "Who's gonna get injured today?"

Then the nice stat they had with fewest penalties in the league went to shit the last 2 weeks as well.  DPI calls I don't get too excited about cause it's a judgement call, but the offsides and holding calls can be lessened.

Now I'm at the point of "Well, you might as well go ahead and lose the final 5 games and get this over with" But I know, KNOW that come Sunday that I will still want them to beat the Eagles, get pissed when a bad call is made or when they give up a TD.

It's like living in the bizarro world. It's like I'm a glutton for punishment


Title: Re: Have you completely given up?
Post by: masterfins on November 27, 2019, 01:03:55 pm
In addition to Dave's comments, I think there has been a general decline in people who post on this site over the last 5 years, for a variety of reasons.  Added to the front office just throwing away this season, and quite possibly the next, it's hard to be interested in anything happening with the team.


Title: Re: Have you completely given up?
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on November 27, 2019, 02:34:21 pm
In addition to Dave's comments, I think there has been a general decline in people who post on this site over the last 5 years, for a variety of reasons.  Added to the front office just throwing away this season, and quite possibly the next, it's hard to be interested in anything happening with the team.

This season was definitely sacrificed but everything points to us going for it in 2020 and beyond. Not saying we will win the Superbowl but with our salary cap and draft haul, we can make the playoffs next season.

Just to reiterate, the league is 80% trash. The Bills are 8-3 and Josh Allen is shit against anyone not named the Miami Dolphins, so if they are heading for a 12-4 season then we can win 10 games next year even if Fitzpatrick is our QB.


Title: Re: Have you completely given up?
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on November 30, 2019, 07:12:50 am
For me the lack of commentary is due most importantly to a complete lack of Dolphins games being shown on free to air TV in Australia: I don't comment on games I have not seen and so far there's only been one shown which was the home field massacre at the hands of the Patriots. About the only thing I want to say about that game is how our white throwback uniforms looked awesome...

The broadcaster Channel 7 has cut down this year on the number of games they show each week from three to two (omitting the Sunday night game) which doesn't help, although in our case I don't think that has changed anything because we have been so bad we did not get that time-slot. They usually pick the most popular (ie. usually recently successful teams) to show each year, so we get a stack of Patriots, Steelers, Packers, Seahawks, Saints, Broncos, Falcons, Eagles, Chiefs, Ravens, Cowboys games with a sprinkling of other teams. Each year as we seem less relevant to the broadcaster, the less chance we have of a game being shown...

When I know we are going to stink this bad, there's no point in paying for a NFL Game Pass to stream it as I know I am not going to enjoy it (plus our internet speeds from overseas in Australia are shit, thanks to a Government who sold out the national interest to pander to a media baron and Telecommunications giant who want to treat us like mushrooms and fleece us blind).




Title: Re: Have you completely given up?
Post by: Seafort on December 01, 2019, 04:54:53 pm
I'm just waiting to see who we draft. I'm okay with drafting Tua if he falls to us, otherwise I'm now of the opinion that we wait to draft a quarterback until next year.

There are things that the Dolphins GM can do to ensure that we get that pick, and if so I'd rather roll with Trevor Lawrence.


Title: Re: Have you completely given up?
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on December 01, 2019, 05:11:16 pm
I'm just waiting to see who we draft. I'm okay with drafting Tua if he falls to us, otherwise I'm now of the opinion that we wait to draft a quarterback until next year.

There are things that the Dolphins GM can do to ensure that we get that pick, and if so I'd rather roll with Trevor Lawrence.

After today's win we have no say in drafting a top QB this year. We have to either wait for next year or see if we find a gem in the 4th round.


Title: Re: Have you completely given up?
Post by: CF DolFan on December 03, 2019, 06:09:47 pm
Not sure where to post this but I saw this quote from Jadeveon Clowney and thought I'd share. It made me laugh.

“It was getting close to the time I said I’d come in, and all of a sudden [O’Brien] called me and said, ‘You need to come in and talk to us,'” Clowney said. “When I got there they’re talking about me signing the tender and going to the Dolphins. They said, ‘It’ll be good for you and good for us.’ I’m like, ‘Good for me? They’re gonna tank the season for a damn quarterback! Find me a team that can win, and I’ll sign the damn tender.’


Title: Re: Have you completely given up?
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on December 03, 2019, 08:00:11 pm
Clowney was 100% right, would've been the worst landing spot for him at the time.


Title: Re: Have you completely given up?
Post by: CF DolFan on December 04, 2019, 06:15:58 pm
^^^ I love how they tried to tell him it would be good for him and he called them out on it ... hahahaha


Title: Re: Have you completely given up?
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on December 05, 2019, 10:23:27 am
How did they do that with a straight face?

"In your walk year, we think it would be good if you play for what could be the worst team in NFL history. Being constantly double teamed because you are the only one on the field with talent, leading to 1 sack on the year as you head into free agency. Sign here, please."


Title: Re: Have you completely given up?
Post by: CF DolFan on December 05, 2019, 10:54:56 am
^^^^ I know ... right? LMAO


Title: Re: Have you completely given up?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on December 05, 2019, 12:09:04 pm
This doesn't make sense.  Why would the Dolphins offer anything?


Title: Re: Have you completely given up?
Post by: Tenshot13 on December 05, 2019, 01:13:26 pm
He probably would have been the highest paid DE in the league if he took the trade to Miami...that's probably what they meant by "it would be good for him."


Title: Re: Have you completely given up?
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on December 05, 2019, 07:27:38 pm
This doesn't make sense.  Why would the Dolphins offer anything?

Hope that he likes it in Miami, franchise him and then see if you get that quick rebuild to go 9-7 in 2020 and see if he wants to stay long term.

All unlikely scenarios but that's the only one I can think of.


Title: Re: Have you completely given up?
Post by: MaineDolFan on December 06, 2019, 10:09:14 am
Just to reiterate, the league is 80% trash. The Bills are 8-3 and Josh Allen is shit against anyone not named the Miami Dolphins, so if they are heading for a 12-4 season then we can win 10 games next year even if Fitzpatrick is our QB.

I think Buffalo is an underrated team this year.  Allen is improving quite a bit.  He is closing in on 3,000 yards (and will get there, easily), completion rate over 61% (well above his career mark), 16 TD to 8 INT; five rushing touchdowns.  His QBR over the last few weeks:

@ Dallas = 120.7
Denver = 92.9
@Miami = 117.7
@Cleveland = 73.8
Washington = 110.4
Philly = 81.6
Miami = 111.4
@Tennessee = 98.3

I feel like he's getting his groove and figuring it out. 

Compared to Tom Brady:  3,268 yards / 18 TD / 6 picks / no rushing TDs.  Allen has a higher QBR (they are both in the high 80's). 

Sam Darnold = 2,154 / 13 / 10 QBR 84.

Allen is actually playing the best ball in the AFC East right now out of the position.


Title: Re: Have you completely given up?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on December 06, 2019, 10:36:25 am
If you hadn’t when the thread started, you should now.  Dolphins are mathematically eliminated.


Title: Re: Have you completely given up?
Post by: MaineDolFan on December 06, 2019, 12:23:17 pm
If you hadn’t when the thread started, you should now.  Dolphins are mathematically eliminated.

Miami was mathematically eliminated at the start of training camp.