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I don't see people who jump out as must have players in their prime but there is some talent available like Anthony Castonzo OT for the Colts, Jack Conklin RT for the Titans and Joe Thuney Guard for the Patriots, age 26.

We may not be able to sign 3 Pro Bowlers in one offseason but our current crop of "has a pulse" linemen can be upgraded by lots of people in free agency.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/

The Bucs need every one of those guys and have the cap space to do it.

There's going to be some bidding wars that reinvent the Guard market this offseason.

Jack Conklin is the RT for the Titans and he will be a free agent. PFF ranked him 9th out of all qualifiers and the Titans need to resign Henry and Tanny so he may be the odd man out. RT will be more important than LT if we draft Tua.

Our top free agency priority?

D.J. Humphries is the LT of Arizona and was just resigned for 3 years/$45 Million with $29 Million guaranteed. He missed 37 games due to injuries his first 4 years and last season was graded out as the 58th best tackle out of 81.

So, the Cardinals just severely screwed the market for tackles. He is the 3rd highest paid LT in the league now and he sucks, that's insane. Other teams should be allowed to veto these contracts if they are this bad.

What? Why? That has to be one of the dumbest idea I have seen on this board.  (Which is hard, given one posters prolific generating of dumb ideas.

If a team wants to overpay that is their progitive.   It means they will have less money for other positions.

I'm not actually serious about that but it does screw over the rest of the league. Now a good LT will want $19 Million a year if a bad one is getting $15 Million a year. No way will they accept less. Drew Brees getting paid doesn't screw up the pay structure or salary cap, bad players getting paid does.

The Dolphins have hurt themselves so many times by giving big contracts to free agents at the end of their careers or to free agents who were never that good to begin with.  So they always scare me with their Free Agent signings.  Wise free agent signings can be a big help.  But the operative term there is WISE free agent signings.

We tend to give out huge deals to people who aren't good or guys we don't need. We gave so much money to Suh and he played very well but we had so many positions of need that it killed our cap and didn't help us. That's the kind of contract a 10 win team with cap space gives out to push them over the top, we need to avoid insane money deals this time.

You can win a lot of games by just having good players all over as opposed to 1 Pro Bowler and 3 scrubs.

Jack Conklin was expected to sign with the Jets this afternoon but now they say he is expected to pass on them. Legally, they shouldn't even be negotiating right now but we all know that's nonsense.

Any rumors of players we are going after yet? Free agency starts the 18th and I really haven't heard a peep on anyone.

It's easy to say this in hindsight. It's a lot tougher to project who will help and who won't before it happens.

This be true.  But I would argue that you will have a better chance of improving the team by signing 3 midgrade players with moderate contracts than one player to a monster contract coming off a career year.

Yes, this is my point. Suh was very good for us but if we just made sure the rest of the line was average or slightly above average I feel like it would've led to more wins than one dominant player.

We don't need a LT and RT making $40 Million combined. Have everyone on the O-Line be a $10 Million a year player and we should be good.

Joe Thuney was franchise tagged by the Patriots in a rare move for them. So, he is off the board.

Looks like a certain QB out of Tampa is available.  He's way better than anything you've had over the years. 

It's okay, that garbage rapist who throws as many INTs as TDs can stay a FA.

it's good tampa upgraded their QB to one with more mobility .. it's not like lobster hands wasn't running for his life half the time as it was

With the free agent signings of some quality Edge Rushers, DE is not as much of a pressing need as it was before free agency signings.  Assuming the Dolphins keep the 18th overall pick, there are enough quality OTs coming out of the draft this year that they should be able to draft a very high quality Tackle at #18 overall.   Locking up a high quality Tackle for a few years with a rookie contract would definitely be a salary cap friendly move.   

I'd be stoked if Miami went:
1a. Tua
1b. Offensive Tackle (Andrew Thomas?)
1c. Offensive tackle (Josh Jones?)
2a. Interior lineman (Tyler Biadasz or Cesar Ruiz)
2b. Running back (Taylor, Swift, Dobbins, Akers, Edwards-Helaire) or the best Safety available.

If the Dolphins draft Tua, I would love to see them get Jedrick Wills with pick #18 because he is a Right Tackle (Tua's blindside since Tua is a lefty) and being from Alabama, he is already accustomed to blocking for Tua.   I'm a huge Biadasz fan and wouldn't spend a 1st rounder on him but would be delighted to get him in the 2nd round. 

Willis is a high quality tackle who can play both ends.   He will be gone long before #18.   

I could see him going around #12, but teams usually panic reach for QB's way earlier than they should.  So although it is unlikely, it isn't totally impossible that he would be there at 18.  A man can dream, can't he?   ;D

I've done probably close to 100 mock drafts for Miami on Fanspeak so far, and Tua at #5 and whichever of the top-5 OTs fall to #18 is a pretty popular duo for me. I've even gotten Tua-Becton on a number of mocks, and Becton is my #1 OT in this class..

6-foot-7, 364 pounds and can move!   :o

Yeah, he is straight out of a monster movie. Massive, fast, long arms, big hands and looks at every defender like he not only wants to beat them, but punish and embarrass them.

All-Pro OT by year 3...and I'm lighting candles that he either gets to Miami or SF (as Staley's replacement)

I'd be even so bold as to compare him to Jonathan Ogden.

I spend way too much time on FanSpeak and blame you for my addiction which started last year when you told me about it.  It is a lot of fun.  I've done probably 50 mocks on it myself already this year.

Guilty as charged!!   ;D   Did you pony up for the Premium so you can wheel and deal with your draft picks?


Bold comp for sure...but I like it!

A quick 3-rounder...  ;)


R1P5  -  QB TUA TAGOVAILOA - ALABAMA
R1P18 -  OT JEDRICK WILLS JR. - ALABAMA
R1P26 -  DL MARLON DAVIDSON - AUBURN
R2P12  -  S GRANT DELPIT - LSU
R2P24  -  CB BRYCE HALL - VIRGINIA
R3P6   -  C TYLER BIADASZ - WISCONSIN
R3P11 -  WR TYLER JOHNSON - MINNESOTA

TRADES
TRADE PARTNER:
INDIANAPOLIS COLTS
SENT:ROUND: 2 PICK: 7
RECEIVED:ROUND: 2 PICK: 12, ROUND: 3 PICK: 11

Of course, that is the only way to go.   

Could you imagine the line with Davidson, holy shit.

Are we done? Is every team done? There was a 3 day flurry and now nothing. I know Clowney is still out there because he is a dumbass who thinks 3 sacks in an injured season means he should get $20 Million, anyone else of value?

If you're looking for solid backs who can catch passes out of the backfield, Devonta Freeman and Theo Riddick are both available.   Also, with Jax rebuilding, they are shopping Leonard Fournette.   Any of those guys will boost up the RB stable for both your team and mine.

I think it's pretty much a lock the Dolphins are taking one of the premier RBs in the draft in the second or third round.  Swift, Taylor, Dobbins, Akers or Edwards-Helaire will be a Dolphin.

Agreed.  Why pay Free Agent market prices when you can draft someone in the 3rd or 4th round to do pretty much the same thing at comparable production but on a rookie (cheap) contract?   The Dolphins don't need to spend a 2nd round pick on Swift.  This is a pretty deep draft for RBs. 

I'm okay with using a 2nd rounder on Swift, I'm not okay using a first rounder on a RB though, which a lot of mocks have us taking at 26.

If Miami is going to "Get Schwifty" or one of the other top RBs, I'd prefer to see them wait until round 2 as well...and preferably the later of the 2 second rounders. Too many of Miami's need positions (OT, S, DE) in this class are top-heavy, so I'd rather see us cherry pick off the top for those positions and get a RB later.

Barry Sanders would have trouble running behind this OL.  So unless it significantly improves, it won't matter who the RB is. 

Actually Freeman and Riddick can be had cheap or at least with "prove it" deals.   Fournette, not so much.  He would be in the 5th year option of his rookie contract so his salary jumps.  And if he lights it up, he's gonna want big money.

I get your point but Barry ran behind some really crappy lines. He turned losses in the backfield into 70 yard TDS. He was as special as they come. I think he was the first player from another team I’d seek out to watch.

It still makes me angry that he wanted to come to Miami and play with Marino, but Detroit wouldn't approve a trade so he retired.  Marino retired the next year, so I don't know if it would have made a difference, but still, Sanders was my favorite player that didn't play for Miami.

Sanders was my favorite player behind our own #13. I didn't realize that he wanted to go to Miami. That could have been a heck of an offense. Even if Marino and Sanders only had one year together Sanders could have potentially stuck around for longer in Miami. I'm really angry now.

Are we misremembering? I  don't think the Sanders to Miami thing had any traction until Barry was already retired and it was spurred by Dolphins fans and staff interested in him.

Article from 2000, year after he retired:

https://oklahoman.com/article/2681200/agent-says-barry-sanders-would-consider-dolphins (https://oklahoman.com/article/2681200/agent-says-barry-sanders-would-consider-dolphins)

Detroit said he had to play for them or no one though, so nothing happened.

That article doesn't work for me but I found one with the exact same title from 2000 5hat says he would consider Miami as well as other teams. That is a far cry from saying he wanted to come to Miami. Pure exaggeration.

Barry is the single most amazing player I've seen in any sport.  It's like he didn't even have the same laws of physics as everyone else.

There were countless Thanksgiving Day games when the only point of watching the Lions was to see what Barry would do.

Clowney is still a free agent because he massively overplayed his market, he just doesn't have the counting stats to be the top paid Defensive player in the game. He lowered his price to $17 Million and still no one is biting. Odds are he will take a 1 year deal and hit free agency again.

Do we have any cap room left to sign him? He can help develop some guys and who knows? Maybe he likes it here and does well and we can resign him. I'm assuming at this point it's going to be a 1 year deal for around $13 Million.

Frankly, he seems like a diva, and wouldn't be a good fit for the culture.