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Looking forward to a lot of overhype after the last year of doom and gloom.

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You sure its not Tampa Bay?

They were before the draft, but after the draft I think Miami hit it's stride.

This can be a playoff team in 2020 but I feel we won't contend until 2021. Those double picks in Rounds 1 and 2 for next year will really put us over the top. God bless Bill O'Brien.

Bucs on the other hand can be a legit contender as long as the Saints don't win 12 games, otherwise it will be tough. Especially with only one bye available per league now.

I agree with Brian.  It is Tampa.  Dolphins have good long term prospects, but I doubt they win the division this year. Tampa on the other hand is all in on this year or bust.

I think the AFC East could literally be a 4-team brawl this season, but Miami definitely has a chance to in it. Add a second straight excellent offseason/draft, and Miami should be sitting pretty for 2021.

They have a better shot than anyone else except the Bills, and I don't believe in Josh Allen at all.

Did you jump ship to the Bucs like every other New England fan did?  Living in Tampa, It's sickening to see all the fair-weather fans and Pats fans being loud and obnoxious over Brady.  TOMPA BAY!   ::)

Agreed.  Things would have to go in our favor to reach the playoffs this season, either pulling out games we shouldn't and some luck.  I said earlier this month or in March that I still see us going 6-10, but much more competitive and making strides from last season.  

And yes, God bless Bill O'Brien.  I'm not sure where his brain is at.  Also, everyone see Tunsil finalize his 3-yr $66 million dollar contract?  Yeah, glad we're not paying that

I didn't mean to suggest that Miami will do better in the standings then the Bucs will, just that I think that many people are getting on the Dolphins band wagon after the draft. There's a LOT of Tua believers out there even if I don't think Tua will make a big impact this next year, I think the earliest that could happen is 2021.

Unless a major injury happens or we somehow start the year 1-9, I don't think you even see Tua take the field until 2021. Ideally, Fitzpatrick plays even better this season with an actual O-Line while Tua heals up and hosts a clipboard while learning new ways to not get broken.

Ideally.

No, I am still a Patriots fan.  But I will pay more attention to Tampa this year because of Brady and Gronk.  Much like my interest in SF because of Jimmy G. 

Heals??  What are you talking about, all the doctors said he had already healed, as did he.  Your not telling me people lied are you?

Tua will start week #4, after the O-line has had time to gel, that is if they start play on time this season.

There's a difference between "healed" and "ready to play NFL football". He is healed but I'm sure the Dolphins don't want him playing contact football for quite awhile. He needs to maybe add some muscle and learn to throw the ball away. He isn't Big Ben, he will not be muscling his way out of sacks.

No offense but anyone who "thinks" they know when Tua will start has not been paying attention. Flores has proven he will start him when he thinks he is ready and that will not be based on public opinion. Could be later year one or might be some time year two. We really have no idea of knowing right now.

For all we know, he could be the best QB in camp like Russell Wilson was and win the starting spot.  Unlikely, sure, but it's possible. 

I don’t see Tua playing this year and it’s probably for the best. I think Miami has a shot in what might be an open AFCE for once. I think between 7-10 wins is realistic.

Anyway the whole Brady to TB thing is fun to have someone to root to fail.

You have to pick who you hate more, Brady or Belichick? Because if they both fail, everyone will say they succeeded as a team. However, if one fails and the other doesn't, then the loser will have his legacy questioned.

^ I think Brady is too old to have his legacy challenged now. If he completely bombs in Tampa, people will just say he got old.

People seem to forget Montana's KC days.

I agree, but if Belichick succeeds without Brady? Then I think you do have to question how much of it was Brady and how much of it was Belichick.

That is clearly the bigger "threat" to Brady's legacy, although he's such a polarizing player outside New England that there will always be people who believe he's just a solid to good and benefiting from Belichick, cheating, etc. That group is going to jump on any Belichick success without Brady, but I don't necessarily think the group will get much bigger.

What is defined as success? They just a terrible finish together last year.

I would much rather have Bill fail. I hate Brady but Bill is a monster.

Zero tarnish on Joe's legacy by going to KC. Hell, Joe took the Chiefs to the AFC Championship game his first year there.

His last two years with KC were rather pedestrian.  TD/INT was 13/7 and 16/9 with a 60% completion each of those years.

That was a different era... The fact that Joe took them to the AFCC after the previous Chief's squad got shut out in the wildcard game was enough.

And, honestly,In conversations about all-time great QBs I've never heard "anyone" refer to Joe's last two seasons as a negative on his legacy.

That's kind of my point though, even if Brady has a pedestrian final season or two in Tampa, no one will refer to his last two seasons as a negative on his legacy.  We've already seen that happen to an all time great in Montana.

I don't think Brady failing this year hurts his legacy, I think Belichick bringing this Pats team to the playoffs would hurt his legacy. No name QB, not a whole lot of talent on the offensive side and the defensive side lost some people. If he can win the division again then it could show Bill to be the reason for the Pats success.

In reverse, everyone expects Brady to succeed and Bill to fial this year so if that happens, I don't think it proves a lot unless Bill never makes the playoffs again.

The funny part about all this is Miami is still, maybe, a .500 team right now.

...and could win the division at 8-8, that's how poor the AFCE is right now, and how tough the AFCE's schedule is.  Before someone says the Bills, I think they are posers.  Josh Allen is not a good QB, they'll be exposed this season.

I doubt it. Buffalo will be good despite their QB only being average. The rest of the team is very good. Expect them to win the AFCE maybe handily and do well in the playoffs. If Josh Allen starts to play up to his potential, watch out, they could easily do what Tennessee did last year.

I fully expect Buffalo to have a QB controversy before this year is over. In fact ... I'd be surprised if it doesn't happen.

With Jake Fromm? Seriously?

I believe the only way Fromm sees the field for Buffalo this year is if Josh Allen gets hurt.

Yeah, Fromm is not in the plans for 2020. He is only playing if there is an injury or the team somehow starts off 1-6 because of Allen and they try to right the ship.

Tiny hands Fromm isn't starting over Allen, but Allen is going to suck it up this year you watch.

I know several Buffalo fans not sold on Josh ... much like the rest of the NFL. The best thing to have to defend from him is a pass.  I heard on the radio before the draft that Buffalo coaches feel like they have built a team to win and if he can't deliver he will be the next clog replaced. This is his third year and the dude sucks at passing the ball.

He isn't killing it that's for sure.

2019 SEASON STATS

3,089YDS   (23rd)
TD-20  (Tied 21st)
INT-9  (Tied-16th)
QBR-47.3 (24th)

Allen's saving grace is that he is really athletic and can run his way out of trouble to either get a first down or buy time to create an easier throw. Problem is when the defense can't hold the other team to only 13 points and he has to win it with his arm. I'm not sold on him either and neither is the front office, that's why they drafted Fromm.

If he repeats his stats from last year, they won't pick up that 5th year option. Good news for us because their defense probably means they won't be drafting Top 10 for awhile and one less team in our way for the division. Nothing worse than your enemy having a franchise QB.

But he made a really bad decision that cost them a chance to win the wild card game last year. He ran backwards instead of running out of the pocket to the right or left late in the 4th quarter. If he doesn't screw up they could have won that game. They SHOULD have won that game, up 16-0 half way through the 3rd quarter. That plus they SHOULD have sacked Watson in overtime when 2 of their players ran together and they both bounced off Watson and he got the 1st down and eventually moved down the field for the winning FG. Basically Houston was lucky to have won that game and I only expect Buffalo to be better this year.

Houston wa slucky the whole damn season.

The Bills coach pretty much said that the season will go where Allen goes. With more tape on him and teams studying, he really has to improve now. It's certainly possible he can but to me he seems like a QB drafted in the 1st round because a team needed a QB. I hope I am right because I hate Buffalo more than New England and I don't want to see them return to glory.