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Title: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: dolphins4life on January 09, 2021, 08:28:15 pm
My prediction:

The Bucs will win the Super Bowl unless there is a horribly bad call that goes against them in a playoff game.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: dolphins4life on January 09, 2021, 08:40:32 pm
Which are the only teams left now that have a longer playoff win drought than Miami?


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 09, 2021, 09:00:32 pm
The Browns in 1994 I think are the only team left.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on January 14, 2021, 12:33:30 am
The Browns in 1994 I think are the only team left.

Not anymore.  That upset in Pittsburgh was stunning.  And I won $117 on my three team parlay on Sunday picking Baltimore, New Orleans and Cleveland. 


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: Dave Gray on January 14, 2021, 08:59:49 am
That upset in Pittsburgh was stunning.

Was it?  Pitt sucks and Cleveland just beat them the week before.  And this is a year where homefield advantage doesn't mean what it normally does.

Maybe a slight upset....but not stunning IMO.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: Dolphster on January 14, 2021, 09:25:07 am
Was it?  Pitt sucks and Cleveland just beat them the week before.  And this is a year where homefield advantage doesn't mean what it normally does.

Maybe a slight upset....but not stunning IMO.

I was thinking the same thing.  The Steelers were a train wreck for the last few games of the regular season. 


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 14, 2021, 11:22:27 am
What do Dolphin fans do on Sundays in January? New experience for Patriot Nation looking for ideas.😀


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: Fau Teixeira on January 14, 2021, 11:33:05 am
same thing you would do as a patriot fan in march .. go out .. have a beach day or use the pool in your back yard .. you know .. summer things we do in january or march


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: dolphins4life on January 14, 2021, 09:52:33 pm
We could see Brady take on Brees, Rodgers, and Mahomes in succession.

However, one of my resolutions for New Year's which I made after Miami was eliminated was not to watch a single snap of the playoffs, so I won't be watching.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: fyo on January 15, 2021, 03:28:42 am
We could see Brady take on Brees, Rodgers, and Mahomes in succession.

However, one of my resolutions for New Year's which I made after Miami was eliminated was not to watch a single snap of the playoffs, so I won't be watching.


So just like the regular season, then?


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: Dolphster on January 15, 2021, 07:36:43 am
So just like the regular season, then?

You beat me to it.  lol


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on January 17, 2021, 05:27:06 pm
Patrick Mahomes sustained a concussion and has been ruled out for the remainder of the game against Cleveland.  The current QB in for KC is none other than Chad Henne who is actually holding his own in his first ever playoff appearance.  Makes you wonder what he could've done had he been properly coached and given the right weapons here.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on January 17, 2021, 05:30:53 pm
And perhaps I spoke too soon.  Henne moving his team down the field gets set back by an illegal crackback block on one of the receivers, putting them out of field goal range.  Very next play, he takes a huge risk and heaves a bomb into the end zone.  Cleveland DB Carl Joseph stands there like a baseball outfielder and picks it off.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 17, 2021, 06:12:44 pm
Buffalo will have a BYE into the Superbowl if Mahomes isn't good to go next Sunday.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on January 17, 2021, 07:17:25 pm
Buffalo will have a BYE into the Superbowl if Mahomes isn't good to go next Sunday.

It was good to see Henne atone for his pick in the end zone by scrambling for 13 yards on 3rd and 14, then making a clutch short pass to ice the game.  That said, I agree.  No way Henne can handle Buffalo's defense. 


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: dolphins4life on January 17, 2021, 08:05:04 pm
Patrick Mahomes sustained a concussion and has been ruled out for the remainder of the game against Cleveland.  The current QB in for KC is none other than Chad Henne who is actually holding his own in his first ever playoff appearance.  Makes you wonder what he could've done had he been properly coached and given the right weapons here.


Oh you mean a quarterback is not the only reason a team wins or loses a game?   WOW!!!!!!!!!  I never knew that.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: dolphins4life on January 17, 2021, 09:35:47 pm
I take back what I said.  Something about Brady does make his teammates better and his opponents worse.  The Saints committed four turnovers today, leading to 21 Tampa Bay points.  The costliest one was obviously the fumble that stopped the drive that could have put the game away.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: dolphins4life on January 17, 2021, 09:36:42 pm
I still have not watched a snap, though.  The only way the Bucs will be stopped is by the refs.  That's the only way Brady has been stopped in the payoffs since 2012.  

- Last year the Patriots were robbed of the bye in the Chiefs game.  
- 2018 They won the Super Bowl
- 2017 They were robbed on the last pay of the Super Bowl, as they should have had another play from the Eagle's forty-six yard line.  
- 2016 They won the Super Bowl
- 2015 They were robbed against Denver in both the regular season and post season.  
- 2014 They won the Super Bowl
- 2013 They were robbed of home-field advantage by bad calls in the regular season, most notably in the Jets and Dolphins games.   


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: Spider-Dan on January 17, 2021, 11:58:36 pm
dolphins4life, please clean up your posts.  They are riddled with countless typos and are nearly unreadable.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: dolphins4life on January 18, 2021, 12:10:18 am
dolphins4life, please clean up your posts.  They are riddled with countless typos and are nearly unreadable.


That's because the three keys farthest to the right in the middle row of my keyboard are broken.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on January 18, 2021, 10:39:50 am
   Oh you mean a quarterbac is not the ony reason a team wins or oses a game?   WOW!!!!!!!!!  I never new that.

A lot of times, coaching matters.  And it's safe to say the Dolphins coaches ruined Chad Henne.  He showed so much promise but his play got progressively worse in Miami.  Dan Henning turned him into "Checkdown Chad".


dolphins4life, please clean up your posts.  They are riddled with countless typos and are nearly unreadable.

The same letters are missing from each of his words, so I think his keyboard is messed up.  If you're a mod, can you do him the favor and edit it to correct the typos for him?


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: dolphins4life on January 18, 2021, 01:09:23 pm
I think it could have had more to do with less talent surrounding him in Miami.  It could also have to do with not having to play the Patriots twice every year.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: CF DolFan on January 18, 2021, 01:15:19 pm
A lot of times, coaching matters.  And it's safe to say the Dolphins coaches ruined Chad Henne.  He showed so much promise but his play got progressively worse in Miami.  Dan Henning turned him into "Checkdown Chad".
I swear it seems all of our coaches teach this. Unfortunately we never have any checkdown guys who can do anything with the ball once they get it ... LOL.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 18, 2021, 01:41:35 pm
dolphins4life, please clean up your posts.  They are riddled with countless typos and are nearly unreadable.

As if that would magically make his post comprehendible.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: dolphins4life on January 18, 2021, 07:15:57 pm
All my posts have been cleaned up. 

I am not following another snap of the playoffs, as I already know what is going to happen.  The Bucs will win the Super Bowl.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: Sunstroke on January 19, 2021, 08:38:35 am
That's because the three keys farthest to the right in the middle row of my keyboard are broken.

If you didn't have to support all the homeless people out there living the high life on your taxes, I'm sure you would've been able to buy a new keyboard by now...

(and back on track)

Tom Brady is exiting the playoffs after next week's game. Rodgers and the Pack are on a mission.





Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: masterfins on January 19, 2021, 02:13:06 pm
If you didn't have to support all the homeless people out there living the high life on your taxes, I'm sure you would've been able to buy a new keyboard by now...

(and back on track)

Tom Brady is exiting the playoffs after next week's game. Rodgers and the Pack are on a mission.




I'm sure it will be because there was a bad call by the refs against Brady.  ::)


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: Sunstroke on January 19, 2021, 03:02:18 pm

^^^ It will be because Rodgers is a better QB than Brady is right now...



Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: dolphins4life on January 19, 2021, 07:06:59 pm
I'm sure it will be because there was a bad call by the refs against Brady.  ::)

What does this post mean?  Are you saying the refs are certain to NOT make a bad call against Tampa Bay on Sunday? 


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: dolphins4life on January 19, 2021, 07:09:39 pm
^^^ It will be because Rodgers is a better QB than Brady is right now...



Yes, you are right.  It's all about the quarterbacks.  All the other players in the game on Sunday mean nothing.  Marino never won a Super Bowl because every quarterback he lost to in the postseason was better than him.  Mark Brunell and Drew Bledsoe should have been first ballot hall of famers.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 20, 2021, 08:43:09 am
I think GB will win because the team knows how to play in the cold.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: masterfins on January 20, 2021, 05:21:32 pm
What does this post mean?  Are you saying the refs are certain to NOT make a bad call against Tampa Bay on Sunday? 

You only need to refer to your post above to understand what my post means.  You profess that the only reason the Patriots haven't been to, or won, the SB every year since 2012 is because they were robbed by bad calls.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: dolphins4life on January 20, 2021, 07:29:12 pm
You only need to refer to your post above to understand what my post means.  You profess that the only reason the Patriots haven't been to, or won, the SB every year since 2012 is because they were robbed by bad calls.

Is this wrong?  Are we supposed to deny things happened when they did?


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: Sunstroke on January 21, 2021, 09:36:35 am
I'm sure it will be because there was a bad call by the refs against Brady.  ::)

What does this post mean?  Are you saying the refs are certain to NOT make a bad call against Tampa Bay on Sunday? 

You only need to refer to your post above to understand what my post means.  You profess that the only reason the Patriots haven't been to, or won, the SB every year since 2012 is because they were robbed by bad calls.

Is this wrong?  Are we supposed to deny things happened when they did? 

Absolutely not. You should just speak more loudly against the deniers, and then randomly hug 9 of them, so they know just how serious you are about this zebra-striped tragedy. ;)



Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: dolphins4life on January 21, 2021, 10:48:18 pm
Here's an analogy
 
If I post on this board that I hit $200 on scratch ticket on Christmas Eve, you people will not want that to be true.  You wouldn't want me to hit $200 on a scratch ticket. 

You may respond to this post by saying I didn't hit $200 on a scratch ticket.  I would respond by saying that I did.  You might respond to by continuing to say I didn't.  However, this does not change the fact that I did in fact hit $200 on a scratch ticket.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: dolphins4life on January 21, 2021, 10:57:24 pm
On another note, I'm trying to find a way to bet on the Bucs for Sunday.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: Dolphster on January 22, 2021, 07:10:45 am
Here's an analogy
 
If I post on this board that I hit $200 on scratch ticket on Christmas Eve, you people will not want that to be true.  You wouldn't want me to hit $200 on a scratch ticket.  

You may respond to this post by saying I didn't hit $200 on a scratch ticket.  I would respond by saying that I did.  You might respond to by continuing to say I didn't.  However, this does not change the fact that I did in fact hit $200 on a scratch ticket.

I think you are grossly overestimating how much anyone here cares about what happens in your personal life.  PS, $200 is like dinner and a bar tab.  Not particularly brag worthy.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: Fau Teixeira on January 22, 2021, 08:38:29 am
Here's an analogy
 
If I post on this board that I hit $200 on scratch ticket on Christmas Eve, you people will not want that to be true.  You wouldn't want me to hit $200 on a scratch ticket. 

You may respond to this post by saying I didn't hit $200 on a scratch ticket.  I would respond by saying that I did.  You might respond to by continuing to say I didn't.  However, this does not change the fact that I did in fact hit $200 on a scratch ticket.

extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof

if you post that you hit $200 on a scratch off .. um .. good for you .. that's not extraordinary .. it happens

if you post that you hit the powerball and won 430 million then yeah .. you're full of shit.

That's the difference.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: dolphins4life on January 22, 2021, 08:36:45 pm
I never make claims on here without proof.  

I hope the Bucs lose on Sunday, but also hope that it if they do it is not because of a bad call that goes against them.       

I don't think they will lose.  I would bet that entire $200 scratch ticket that they win.



Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: dolphins4life on January 22, 2021, 08:37:45 pm
I think you are grossly overestimating how much anyone here cares about what happens in your personal life.  PS, $200 is like dinner and a bar tab.  Not particularly brag worthy.

$200 for dinner?  Wow


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: dolphins4life on January 22, 2021, 08:38:28 pm
You only need to refer to your post above to understand what my post means.  You profess that the only reason the Patriots haven't been to, or won, the SB every year since 2012 is because they were robbed by bad calls.

It wasn't the only reason, but they certainly had a huge influence.

For example, Super Bowl 52 was very well officiated until the last play, which should have had the Eagles flagged for illegal contact.  Now, there is no guarantee that the Patriots complete a second Hail Mary from the 46, but you never know.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: dolphins4life on January 24, 2021, 12:25:01 am
To give you all more motivation to root for GB, I will make this promise.  If the Packers win, I will only post in the off-topic board until the start of next season.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: Spider-Dan on January 24, 2021, 02:46:39 am
Don't write checks you can't cash.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 24, 2021, 06:10:00 pm
Packers coach is an imbecile to go for the field goal with 2 minutes left and give the Bucs the ball back. Especially when it was 4th and goal, what the hell was the FG going to do for you anyway?

Maybe the Packers would've won if they had used their 1st rounder in 2020 on someone who could help the current team. Oh well, I'm sure Aaron Rodgers doesn't hold grudges and won't say anything about it.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: dolphins4life on January 24, 2021, 06:14:01 pm
Score this one in the D4L is right column, although in this case being right sucks.

Brady throws three interceptions in a playoff game and still wins.

I don't know if I count the touchdown at the end of the half as a Hail Mary.  It wasn't a pass up for grabs in the end zone.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on January 24, 2021, 06:58:26 pm
Packers coach is an imbecile to go for the field goal with 2 minutes left and give the Bucs the ball back. Especially when it was 4th and goal, what the hell was the FG going to do for you anyway?

Insane play calling the the last quarter by the Packers, with around 8 minutes to go they just stopped doing what got them back in the game the start of the second half.

They went to an empty backfield way too early, culminating in the three missed shots for the touchdown and the mystifying decision to take the field goal. The last two series were downright horrible. Frustratingly stupid stuff considering how well Rodgers and the defense played.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: dolphins4life on January 24, 2021, 07:18:44 pm
The Bucs have scored 35 points off turnovers in the past two games


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: dolphins4life on January 24, 2021, 07:39:00 pm
Three key calls in this game.

This was Rodgers' interception, which led to the touchdown before the half.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7M2UyVSpSw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7M2UyVSpSw)

It does appear to be a grab and pull of the jersey, which could have been called.

This was in the fourth quarter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEahZXY_O1w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEahZXY_O1w)

Is the pass interference?  He does grab the jersey and give it a little pull, but does it affect his ability to run his route?  I guess the officials thought it didn't.  Somebody pointed out a possible hands to the face.  However, illegal hands to the face can only be called against the offense.

Of course, the big one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13DfVhlcrWs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13DfVhlcrWs).

This is pretty obvious PI.  The only argument some people would make it that the pass was uncatchable, but that was clearly catchable.





Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on January 24, 2021, 07:55:57 pm
The Bucs have scored 35 points off turnovers in the past two games

Bucs defense has been lights out the last two games -  Todd Bowles deserves a lot of credit. Really deserves another head coach shot too IMO.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: stinkfish on January 24, 2021, 07:57:17 pm
And Brady just won’t freaking go away. If this is a Bucs/Bills Superbowl I’m going to hate every minute of it.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: dolphins4life on January 24, 2021, 08:01:37 pm
They won that game in spite of Brady, not because of him.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on January 24, 2021, 08:03:15 pm
Three key calls in this game.

This was Rodgers' interception, which led to the touchdown before the half.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7M2UyVSpSw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7M2UyVSpSw)

It does appear to be a grab and pull of the jersey, which could have been called.

This was in the fourth quarter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEahZXY_O1w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEahZXY_O1w)

Is the pass interference?  He does grab the jersey and give it a little pull, but does it affect his ability to run his route?  I guess the officials thought it didn't.  Somebody pointed out a possible hands to the face.  However, illegal hands to the face can only be called against the offense.

Of course, the big one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13DfVhlcrWs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13DfVhlcrWs).

This is pretty obvious PI.  The only argument some people would make it that the pass was uncatchable, but that was clearly catchable.

All three incidents should have drawn flags (for either holding or PI), I guess it's just Brady's luck only the last one got called.

I wonder how much of it has to do with how vocal Brady is with the refs? Earlier in the game I heard him calling for a helmet to helmet hit (which was rightfully ignored), and that PI flag was thrown very late. Up until then the refs had let a lot go during the game both ways... it's probably just coincidence.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: dolphins4life on January 24, 2021, 08:09:28 pm
Am I wrong that hands to the face cannot be called on the defensive line?  The NFL rulebook only mentions an offensive blocker.

Some refs will allow you to grab a jersey if you immediately let go and it does not significantly affect the play.

This could justify the no-call on the second one.

However, in the first one, the defender grabs and pulls the receiver to get himself in position to make the interception. 


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 24, 2021, 09:28:06 pm
Bills are getting crushed and they were lucky to even score their only TD to this point.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: stinkfish on January 24, 2021, 09:42:00 pm
I don’t understand something. Watching bills and chiefs. A whole lot of personal fouls were called on both teams. Buffalo was called for one more personal foul than the chiefs were. But all penalties were ruled to be offsetting. Why? Since bills had one more penalty called against them, I would think that they would at least be penalized 15 yards?


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: dolphins4life on January 24, 2021, 09:44:13 pm
On the first one, I think that should have been a penalty.  Some refs will allow a jersey grab if it's quick and doesn't affect the receiver too much.  This was a long grab and a clear tug.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on January 24, 2021, 10:08:12 pm
I don’t understand something. Watching bills and chiefs. A whole lot of personal fouls were called on both teams. Buffalo was called for one more personal foul than the chiefs were. But all penalties were ruled to be offsetting. Why? Since bills had one more penalty called against them, I would think that they would at least be penalized 15 yards?

Doesn't matter how many are accumulated by one side, if the other has just one then they are automatically offset.

Only way there could be a difference would be if someone gets thrown out of the game. Overall I think the officiating crew (including the overseers in New York) did a good job with the final decision even if they took too long, call the penalties on both sides, then let them get back to the game.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: Spider-Dan on January 24, 2021, 11:37:06 pm
Just to clarify: if there are penalties on both sides during a play that involves a turnover, penalties don't automatically offset.  There is a decision tree (https://www.footballzebras.com/2016/09/simplifying-enforcement-when-flags-and-fumbles-fly/) that is used to determine how to enforce the penalties, based on whether the defense committed a penalty after the turnover (clean hands recovery) or before the turnover (unclean hands).


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: dolphins4life on January 24, 2021, 11:58:30 pm
I was right about

1) My preseason Super Bowl pick

2) The game this weekend.

Like I said, I am very smart when it comes to football


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: dolphins4life on January 25, 2021, 12:00:57 am
Bucs sure won't get any calls against the Golden Boy next week though.

Note:  I looked up the hands to the face rule and you have to go inside the facemask to commit that penalty, so no problem there.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: stinkfish on January 25, 2021, 12:05:13 am
Thank you Downunder and Spider. I still don’t agree, but now I get it. I “think” I get it, but I have beer brain right now.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on January 25, 2021, 03:38:24 am
Tom Brady has made history in the Super Bowl twice now.  He played in the first ever Super Bowl to go into OT (vs Atlanta in 2016).   Now he led the Bucs to be the first ever team to play in the Super Bowl on their home turf.

And I gotta point this out as well.  Packers all pro LT David Bahktiari was out with an injury.  His replacement was none other than Billy Turner, the Dolphins third round draft bust in 2014.  Not surprisingly, Aaron Rodgers got sacked five times.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 25, 2021, 08:22:48 am
Tom Brady has made history in the Super Bowl twice now.  He played in the first ever Super Bowl to go into OT (vs Atlanta in 2016).   Now he led the Bucs to be the first ever team to play in the Super Bowl on their home turf.


Way more than twice.  Only person to play in 10 SBs, only player to win 6, Most TDs, passing yards, pass attempts, completions, etc.Pretty much any SB record that exists for a qb Brady owns by a wide margin.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: dolphins4life on January 25, 2021, 08:55:47 pm
I would like to issue a retraction of my comments about the officiating.  Each of the three plays I cited was properly adjudicated.

While the defender in the first video (the one of Rodgers' interception) does grab and pull the jersey, he does so and then immediately attempts to make a play on the ball.  This is almost never called.  I have seen examples of similar plays not called.

The second video is of the pass to Lazard in the fourth quarter.  While there is a grab of the jersey, there is virtually no tugging and it does not affect Lazard's ability to run his route or make the play

The third video involves a clear jersey grab and pull, where the defender makes no effort whatsoever to make a play on the ball.  This will be called almost every time.


Title: Re: 2020 Playoffs
Post by: dolphins4life on January 26, 2021, 11:08:00 pm
18 missed opportunities for the Packers

https://sports.yahoo.com/18-missed-opportunities-cost-packers-043846098.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/18-missed-opportunities-cost-packers-043846098.html)

Surprised nobody is talking about the dropped interception before the score before the half.