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Title: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on May 10, 2021, 02:15:23 pm
He will try out as a tight end. I guess there is no real harm but the start of Urban Meyer's tenure is going a little different than I thought. He was gifted Lawrence so no credit for that, but the rets of his draft was pretty weird and now this.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Phishfan on May 10, 2021, 02:19:13 pm
Doesn't surprise me. I knew if he asked he would get a  chance.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on May 10, 2021, 02:50:56 pm
If there was a team that would do good by bringing him back into the league, it had to be Jacksonville.  He is a legend in that city and his parents have strong ties to the community.  With him and Trevor Lawrence, you can expect a lot of fans to show up for games. 


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Pappy13 on May 10, 2021, 03:25:33 pm
What happened to baseball?


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on May 10, 2021, 04:22:57 pm
What happened to baseball?

Never moved past AA. He is a great natural athlete, but he should've moved to Tight End from Day 1. Could've been something special. At 33 yars old, quite the longshot but the Jaguars are terrible so you never know if he makes the practice squad or something.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Spider-Dan on May 10, 2021, 04:31:45 pm
Tebow could have had the starting QB job in JAX handed to him on a silver platter.  But he didn't want to get exposed.  So he preferred the bright lights of NYC, with a slim chance of inheriting a great defense from a deposed Mark Sanchez.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on May 11, 2021, 08:16:00 am
Tebow getting yet another chance in the NFL and Kap not says the truth about cancel culture despite the claims that it is the left doing the cancelling.  The ONLY reason Tebow has a job is he kneels.  Same reason Kap doesn't.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Dolphster on May 11, 2021, 08:33:21 am
Total publicity move by the Jaguars since Tebow is a god (pun intended) in Jacksonville.  No way he is on the roster at the start of the season. 


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Tenshot13 on May 11, 2021, 09:20:19 am
Tebow getting yet another chance in the NFL and Kap not says the truth about cancel culture despite the claims that it is the left doing the cancelling.  The ONLY reason Tebow has a job is he kneels.  Same reason Kap doesn't.
Your constant pandering to social issues when it doesnt apply is getting old.  There are two reasons Tebow is getting a chance and Kaep isn't:  the new head coach of the Jags is in love with him and he's not going to be a QB. 


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Dolphster on May 11, 2021, 09:22:51 am
Tebow getting yet another chance in the NFL and Kap not says the truth about cancel culture despite the claims that it is the left doing the cancelling.  The ONLY reason Tebow has a job is he kneels.  Same reason Kap doesn't.

I'm not a fan of Tebow by any means.  But the way Kap handled his NFL tryout in 2019 made it very obvious that he had zero interest in playing football. 


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on May 11, 2021, 10:18:53 am
I'm not a fan of Tebow by any means.  But the way Kap handled his NFL tryout in 2019 made it very obvious that he had zero interest in playing football. 

Agreed, that was an attention seeking farce. Tebow genuinely wants to play, he just probably missed his window with some bad choices early on in his career.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: pondwater on May 11, 2021, 12:02:22 pm
Tebow getting yet another chance in the NFL and Kap not says the truth about cancel culture despite the claims that it is the left doing the cancelling.  The ONLY reason Tebow has a job is he kneels.  Same reason Kap doesn't.
Who said anything about Kaepernick?  The fact is an NFL franchise wants to give Tebow a contract. Another fact is that NO NFL franchise wants to give Kaepernick a contract.

Do you want to force a team to sign Kaepernick? Do you want to force a team to not sign Tebow? Shit, you would think that the NFL was a business or something. Exactly WTF is your point?


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on May 11, 2021, 03:18:56 pm
Tebow getting yet another chance in the NFL and Kap not says the truth about cancel culture despite the claims that it is the left doing the cancelling.  The ONLY reason Tebow has a job is he kneels.  Same reason Kap doesn't.
Tebow won't bring the distraction Kaepernick does.  He's an ambassador of goodwill everywhere he goes.  And I agree with Tenshot.  You bringing up social issues out of the blue is getting very annoying.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Spider-Dan on May 11, 2021, 03:58:26 pm
Wait, you're using "distractions" in the defense of... a Tebow signing?!

Tim Tebow is one of the single biggest distractions you can sign to the roster.  He is a walking media circus.

If you want to say that Kap hasn't been signed because it would be a distraction, then fine... but don't do it at that same time you are defending a Tebow contract.   He was one of the biggest distractions in the league years before Kap took a knee.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: CF DolFan on May 11, 2021, 04:34:38 pm
Tim Tebow is being signed because of a college coach turned NFL coach named Urban Meyer. I could see Pete Carroll doing something similar ... especially early on in his career. Steve Spurrier probably would have too.  The story shouldn't be why but if he can make the team. It isn't so easy to go back to hitting or being hit.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: pondwater on May 11, 2021, 07:08:07 pm
Wait, you're using "distractions" in the defense of... a Tebow signing?!

Tim Tebow is one of the single biggest distractions you can sign to the roster.  He is a walking media circus.

If you want to say that Kap hasn't been signed because it would be a distraction, then fine... but don't do it at that same time you are defending a Tebow contract.   He was one of the biggest distractions in the league years before Kap took a knee.
"In the defense of a Tebow signing"? Who needs to be defended? A for profit business hired an employee. What's to defend?


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: CF DolFan on May 12, 2021, 11:07:23 am
"In the defense of a Tebow signing"? Who needs to be defended? A for profit business hired an employee. What's to defend?
There is truth to that. They may be more interested in making money selling jerseys than carrying another special teams player.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: CF DolFan on May 12, 2021, 11:27:26 am
https://www.tmz.com/2021/05/11/urban-meyer-jacksonville-jaguars-tim-tebow-workouts-shape-contract-tight-end/?fbclid=IwAR3RQsCjjVcPx8AWxCC0Zs7n9jvXvAU63HumABbex49vXr6b33tZs5jeZec

Urban Meyer -"I wasn't even there. And they (staff) came back to me and said, 'Wow, this guy's in incredible shape.'"

Meyer says his staff actually worked out Tebow multiple times in recent weeks ... and afterward, each time, they could not stop complimenting the ex-quarterback.

"They come in and they said, 'Wow. You know, this guy's ball skills,'" Meyer said. "'He's a great athlete. He looks like he's 18 years old, not whatever he is, 33.'"


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Dave Gray on May 12, 2021, 11:29:04 am
I root for Tebow, in general.

He seems like a good guy.  And I think that he's a good athlete.

I don't want to jump to assigning motivations to the Jags, but it definitely could be about hype and jerseys and tickets.  Backup TEs with no experience shouldn't be getting press like this.  This should've happened straight out of college for him, but maybe it's not too late.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on May 12, 2021, 11:43:41 am
I root for Tebow, in general.

He seems like a good guy.  And I think that he's a good athlete.

I don't want to jump to assigning motivations to the Jags, but it definitely could be about hype and jerseys and tickets.  Backup TEs with no experience shouldn't be getting press like this.  This should've happened straight out of college for him, but maybe it's not too late.

It's probably 80% media hype and 20% Urban Meyer wanting to help out a guy who got him a National Championship. There is a very small outside chance he can contribute as a TE or a Goal line back or maybe as a trick play guy but the NFL is hard enough without being away from it for so many years.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on May 12, 2021, 01:48:51 pm
It's probably 80% media hype and 20% Urban Meyer wanting to help out a guy who got him a National Championship. There is a very small outside chance he can contribute as a TE or a Goal line back or maybe as a trick play guy but the NFL is hard enough without being away from it for so many years.

I'd say it's 60% media hype, 20% Urban Meyer helping him out, and 20% ticket/jersey sale opportunities seeing as he is going to be playing in his hometown where he is a legend at Neace High in Ponte Vedra Beach and his parents are very active in the Jacksonville community.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: masterfins on May 12, 2021, 03:27:12 pm
I don't think he's going to be hugely successful, but I hope he does well.  Because of his prior experience I think he'll do better than a bunch of rookies and other back-up role players.  I hope they don't try and use him on trick plays because defenses are going to be guarding against that and I think it will be disastrous.  As for the franchise they will probably make more off of him than they will have to pay him; and as long as the fans are okay with it I don't see a problem.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on May 12, 2021, 04:24:52 pm
I don't think he's going to be hugely successful, but I hope he does well.  Because of his prior experience I think he'll do better than a bunch of rookies and other back-up role players.  I hope they don't try and use him on trick plays because defenses are going to be guarding against that and I think it will be disastrous.  As for the franchise they will probably make more off of him than they will have to pay him; and as long as the fans are okay with it I don't see a problem.


Yeah, when we first started the Wildcat, it worked because we actually had Chad Pennington catch passes and Ronnie Brown throw. It became predictable when it was just a direct snapto a running back. Same will probably happen with Tebow trick plays, defenses will know what is coming and all you do is remove a man from  offense as a decoy.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Spider-Dan on May 12, 2021, 08:45:49 pm
Yeah, when we first started the Wildcat, it worked because we actually had Chad Pennington catch passes and Ronnie Brown throw.
Chad Pennington was targeted on exactly one pass during his career, when he was still with the Jets.  He has zero NFL receptions.

Throwing to Pennington was never part of the Wildcat.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: pondwater on May 12, 2021, 10:15:21 pm
I root for Tebow, in general.

He seems like a good guy.  And I think that he's a good athlete.

I don't want to jump to assigning motivations to the Jags, but it definitely could be about hype and jerseys and tickets.  Backup TEs with no experience shouldn't be getting press like this.  This should've happened straight out of college for him, but maybe it's not too late.
He's getting press because the woke liberals are turning it into a Tebow/Kaepernick side show circus. Hell, it's happened in this thread. The "everything's racist" crowd are the ones generating Tebow and the Jaguars press and money


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Spider-Dan on May 13, 2021, 12:28:50 am
Tebow was a one-man circus long before anyone outside of San Francisco (or Nevada, I suppose) knew Colin Kaepernick's name.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Dave Gray on May 13, 2021, 02:04:52 pm
I don't expect a Tebow circus if he is a TE.  No team has a TE controversy.  He'll get a lot of media play because people like to talk about him, but it's a whole different game when you're talking about unseating the starting QB. 


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: pondwater on May 13, 2021, 02:55:59 pm
Tebow was a one-man circus long before anyone outside of San Francisco (or Nevada, I suppose) knew Colin Kaepernick's name.

I don't expect a Tebow circus if he is a TE.  No team has a TE controversy.  He'll get a lot of media play because people like to talk about him, but it's a whole different game when you're talking about unseating the starting QB. 
If he gets attention because he's popular or unpopular, that's one thing. But the manufactured outrage from the social justice warriors crying about whatever they're crying about. WTF they crying about anyhow, I don't even know at this point. I'm sure it has something to do with some perceived racism, just like everything else they cry about.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on May 13, 2021, 06:05:56 pm
Chad Pennington was targeted on exactly one pass during his career, when he was still with the Jets.  He has zero NFL receptions.

Throwing to Pennington was never part of the Wildcat.

The point of having Pennington there was it meant he still had the chance to get the ball (presumably to throw) so the opposing defense had to treat it as an option.

More importantly though - the key players were already out on the field so it could be sprung without substitution, which denied the opposition time to adjust and prepare.

Subbing out the QB (or for that matter, subbing in a specific Wildcat QB) undoes the whole element of surprise, which is when/why the Wildcat works.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: dolphins4life on May 13, 2021, 06:58:04 pm
Big deal over nothing.  He won't mae the roster


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: masterfins on May 13, 2021, 08:07:46 pm
He's getting press because the woke liberals are turning it into a Tebow/Kaepernick side show circus. Hell, it's happened in this thread. The "everything's racist" crowd are the ones generating Tebow and the Jaguars press and money

I'm so sick of people that don't know a thing about NFL Football, nor do they follow football, who keep bringing Kaepernick into conversations.  The NFL went way out of its way to hold a special tryout for him, and got scouts from practically every team to show up, then Kaepernick wanted to screw around and move the place and time of the tryout to a different location.  The no nothing liberals need to let this argument die.  He was an idiot to opt out of his SF contract, and IMO he doesn't even want to really play in the NFL; he's happier being a martyr.



Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Dave Gray on May 14, 2021, 08:16:07 am
But the manufactured outrage from the social justice warriors crying about whatever they're crying about. WTF they crying about anyhow, I don't even know at this point. I'm sure it has something to do with some perceived racism, just like everything else they cry about.

Who's crying?

You make everything some big deal when it's not.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Tenshot13 on May 14, 2021, 08:30:27 am
Who's crying?

You make everything some big deal when it's not.

A lot of people are crying  about it.  Just google "Upset about Tebow" and you'll find about a dozen recent articles.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Dave Gray on May 14, 2021, 08:36:17 am
I get that there's a double standard, but it seems pointless to argue into the ether with people who aren't arguing against your point.

We have a message board forum with lots of people with lots of opinions.  So, we should discuss points with each other -- not straw men on the Internet.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: CF DolFan on May 14, 2021, 11:21:39 am
I know there are plenty of opposite opinions but I personally like Jimmy Smith’s opinion on the subject.

Legendary Jaguars wide receiver Jimmy Smith took a shot at Kaepernick when asked by TMZ Sports if Tebow could help Trevor Lawrence, suggesting that Kaepernick would divide the locker room.

“I heard Shannon Sharpe, or somebody in the media, ‘oh, they could have signed Colin Kaepernick?’ Really?” Smith said. “This is my team. We don’t need Colin Kaepernick on our team — with our young franchise and our young players — to divide our locker room. We need a guy like Tim Tebow, who’s a hometown hero, who has love for the city anyway, he’s going to be a great support for Trevor Lawrence. … Whatever capacity that is, it is going to be a positive rather than a negative.”



Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Dolphster on May 14, 2021, 12:20:04 pm
The fact that we have already filled up almost 3 pages of comments about a guy who won't even be on the Week 1 roster shows that he still creates an interest one way or another. 


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: pondwater on May 14, 2021, 11:38:47 pm
I get that there's a double standard, but it seems pointless to argue into the ether with people who aren't arguing against your point.

We have a message board forum with lots of people with lots of opinions.  So, we should discuss points with each other -- not straw men on the Internet.
Then get Hoodie in here to discuss his opinion. Hoodie brought it up.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Spider-Dan on May 15, 2021, 10:21:53 pm
I know there are plenty of opposite opinions but I personally like Jimmy Smith’s opinion on the subject.

Legendary Jaguars wide receiver Jimmy Smith took a shot at Kaepernick when asked by TMZ Sports if Tebow could help Trevor Lawrence, suggesting that Kaepernick would divide the locker room.

“I heard Shannon Sharpe, or somebody in the media, ‘oh, they could have signed Colin Kaepernick?’ Really?” Smith said. “This is my team. We don’t need Colin Kaepernick on our team — with our young franchise and our young players — to divide our locker room. We need a guy like Tim Tebow, who’s a hometown hero, who has love for the city anyway, he’s going to be a great support for Trevor Lawrence. … Whatever capacity that is, it is going to be a positive rather than a negative.”
This quote just reinforces the problem:

Tebow is an extremely polarizing player.  The fact that Kap is being cited as "a divider" and Tebow is being directly contrasted to him as a "positive" says a huge amount about the perspective of the speaker and the broader culture.

There are plenty of non-divisive players that you can contrast to Kap without any reservation: JJ Watt, Trent Williams, Todd Gurley, Kenny Golladay, and so on.  But to criticize Colin Kaepernick as "divisive" as you're hyping Tim freaking Tebow?  It's a slap in the face; insult to injury.  It's telling us plainly that all the BS about "distractions" and "media circus" is just an excuse used to take [in]action that the powers that be already wanted to take anyway.

Don't spin me some BS about distractions when you're bringing in a 33-year-old baseball player as a backup for a position he's never even played.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on May 15, 2021, 10:48:49 pm
This quote just reinforces the problem:

Tebow is an extremely polarizing player.  The fact that Kap is being cited as "a divider" and Tebow is being directly contrasted to him as a "positive" says a huge amount about the perspective of the speaker and the broader culture.

There are plenty of non-divisive players that you can contrast to Kap without any reservation: JJ Watt, Trent Williams, Todd Gurley, Kenny Golladay, and so on.  But to criticize Colin Kaepernick as "divisive" as you're hyping Tim freaking Tebow?  It's a slap in the face; insult to injury.  It's telling us plainly that all the BS about "distractions" and "media circus" is just an excuse used to take [in]action that the powers that be already wanted to take anyway.

Don't spin me some BS about distractions when you're bringing in a 33-year-old baseball player as a backup for a position he's never even played.

Tebow is not polarizing in the slightest.  He is the consummate teammate and supports everyone on his team.  A great guy to have in the locker room.  Kaepernick is a locker room cancer who is in it for himself and his social justice bullshit is an extremely volatile subject that belongs off the football field, but he continues to bring it on there.  That's why he is still without a job.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Phishfan on May 15, 2021, 10:52:27 pm
Tebow has already been used as some version of a tight end. He did it for the Broncos once and also with the Jets. It wasn't successful. I remember a pass hitting him in the back of the head or his ass maybe when he didn't even turn around on a route.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Spider-Dan on May 15, 2021, 11:02:18 pm
Tim Tebow: Why Is He so Polarizing Among NFL Fans? (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/935987-tim-tebow-denver-broncos-why-is-he-so-polarizing-among-the-nfl-fandom)
Tim Tebow: ESPN's Outside the Lines examines why he's so polarizing (https://www.westword.com/news/tim-tebow-espns-outside-the-lines-examines-why-hes-so-polarizing-5888092)
TIM TEBOW: How He Became The Most Polarizing Athlete In Sports (https://www.businessinsider.com/tim-tebow-patriots-game-2011-12)
Booger McFarland: "He's not a good player, he's just a polarizing former athlete that we can't stop talking about" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF8RXjXxXhQ&t=322s)
The polarizing effect of Tim Tebow (https://www.sfexaminer.com/sports/the-polarizing-effect-of-tim-tebow/)

You can say that you like the guy, or that you don't think he should be polarizing, but that doesn't make it not so.  The fact that we are talking about the worst team in the league signing a 33-year-old trying to make the roster as a backup tight end proves that Tebow is polarizing, because nobody should even care about this signing.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Spider-Dan on May 15, 2021, 11:11:34 pm
Tebow has already been used as some version of a tight end. He did it for the Broncos once and also with the Jets. I remember a pass hitting him in the back of the head or his ass maybe when he didn't even turn around on a route.
He was listed on both of those rosters as a QB (which is an important factor in how many QBs are permitted to dress, etc).

The pass you are describing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqz3PR64HBA) is the only time Tim Tebow was targeted in the NFL.  I don't know if that means he was "used as a tight end" any more than Brandon Fields' 1 pass attempt means he was "used as a QB."


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: dolphins4life on May 16, 2021, 01:57:57 am
Nobody has ever gotten a rawer deal than Tebow


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Phishfan on May 16, 2021, 12:30:14 pm
He was listed on both of those rosters as a QB (which is an important factor in how many QBs are permitted to dress, etc).

The pass you are describing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqz3PR64HBA) is the only time Tim Tebow was targeted in the NFL.  I don't know if that means he was "used as a tight end" any more than Brandon Fields' 1 pass attempt means he was "used as a QB."

I don't really care to split hairs but I guarantee he was tested in practice. My only point is this isn't someone's first attempt at checking his tight end skills.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Tenshot13 on May 16, 2021, 01:39:29 pm
I don't really care to split hairs...

You're on the wrong website then lol


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Dave Gray on May 17, 2021, 08:28:01 am
Nobody has ever gotten a rawer deal than Tebow

How do you figure that?

I never thought Tebow had transferrable QB skills, so I was shocked to see him drafted in the first round.  I didn't think he was a good player in the NFL while playing and was lucky to get a bunch of good bounces and a defense that was killer.  Tebow deserves credit for hanging in there, but he was a game manager at best, and was usually worse than that.

And he was unseated by one of the best QBs ever to play the game and couldn't find another job.

Tebow is a great teammate, a hard worker, a model citizen, etc -- he's just not a great QB, so I don't think it's a raw deal.

I think that him being a TE actually makes sense because you can use his athleticism.  It just might be a little late to try to develop that skillset.  I'll be surprised if he makes the roster, but even more if he's used on the team and even more than that if he's used in anything more than a gimmick capacity.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: dolphins4life on May 17, 2021, 09:03:23 pm
How do you figure that?

I never thought Tebow had transferrable QB skills, so I was shocked to see him drafted in the first round.  I didn't think he was a good player in the NFL while playing and was lucky to get a bunch of good bounces and a defense that was killer.  Tebow deserves credit for hanging in there, but he was a game manager at best, and was usually worse than that.

And he was unseated by one of the best QBs ever to play the game and couldn't find another job.

Tebow is a great teammate, a hard worker, a model citizen, etc -- he's just not a great QB, so I don't think it's a raw deal.

I think that him being a TE actually makes sense because you can use his athleticism.  It just might be a little late to try to develop that skillset.  I'll be surprised if he makes the roster, but even more if he's used on the team and even more than that if he's used in anything more than a gimmick capacity.
    He too the Broncos the second round of the payoffs.  He payed very we that season.  Then, he went to New Yor.  He did fine in his imited roe, then for some reason, Rex Ryan put in Greg McEroy.  He never got another chance.   Who cares about ucy bounces?   Tom Brady has won countess games on ucy bounces and breas.   Meanwhie, the Dophins have done nothing for twenty years.  I mean what more does a payer have to do to earn a shot?  For that matter, why did he deserve to not have a shot?  It shoud be pointed out that Peyton too the Broncos no farther than Tebow did his first season with Denver


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: dolphins4life on May 17, 2021, 09:03:57 pm
He showed great passing abiity in the Steeers games


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Phishfan on May 17, 2021, 10:03:55 pm
I hate the he deserves a chance bullshit no matter the player. He had his chance, it didn't work out for him. Quit crying because he had his chance.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: dolphins4life on May 17, 2021, 10:49:50 pm
Guess we can cose the boo on Tua.  He payed much worse then Tebow his first season.   


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: dolphins4life on May 17, 2021, 10:50:17 pm
He couldn't have payed much better in twenty eleven


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Dolphster on May 18, 2021, 07:06:18 am
Guess we can cose the boo on Tua.  He payed much worse then Tebow his first season.   

Does it bother you that fewer and fewer people here are taking the bait?  It must be tough becoming irrelevant as more and more people just ignore you. 


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Dave Gray on May 18, 2021, 08:11:45 am
    He too the Broncos the second round of the payoffs.

He rode the Broncos to the 2nd round of the playoffs, despite his mediocre play.


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He payed very we that season.

He did not.  You're only using the win/loss record.  His completion percentage, QB Rating, and general yardage stats were poor.  He had a great defense that was winning games for him.

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I mean what more does a payer have to do to earn a shot?  For that matter, why did he deserve to not have a shot?

Nobody deserves a shot.  Players are chosen for the likelihood that they'll improve their team.  At QB, Tebow wasn't going to do that, as evidenced that he's a model dude and still can't get a QB job. 


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Dave Gray on May 18, 2021, 08:16:46 am
Guess we can cose the boo on Tua.  He payed much worse then Tebow his first season.   

That's what's funny.  He didn't.  Tua played better than Tebow and Tua has generally thought to have underperformed.  We all expect Tua to improve, but even if he doesn't, he'll still have played better than Tebow.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: dolphins4life on May 18, 2021, 12:26:18 pm
Does it bother you that fewer and fewer people here are taking the bait?  It must be tough becoming irrelevant as more and more people just ignore you. 

No, it means people are not making a big deal out of something stupid.  My posts are still comprehensible with the missing letters.  I will fix my keyboard when I get the chance.  I work seven days a week. 


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Phishfan on May 18, 2021, 12:50:55 pm
No, it means people are not making a big deal out of something stupid.  My posts are still comprehensible with the missing letters.  I will fix my keyboard when I get the chance.  I work seven days a week. 

He isn't talking about your keyboard.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Spider-Dan on May 18, 2021, 12:54:15 pm
Guess we can cose the boo on Tua.  He payed much worse then Tebow his first season.   
n pon of fac, ua had a beer wn percenage, beer passer rang, and beer QBR han ebow las season. he dfference s ha ua's Dolphns mssed he playoffs a 10-6, whle ebow's Broncos won he dvson and go o hos a playoff game a 8-8.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Sunstroke on May 18, 2021, 01:59:36 pm
Guess we can cose the boo on Tua. 

I cose the boo on anyone who will let me...



Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: dolphins4life on May 18, 2021, 02:35:57 pm
Tebow was 7-4.  Tua was 5-3. (Not counting the Oakland game that was saved).


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: dolphins4life on May 18, 2021, 02:38:41 pm
Tua had 11 tds. Tebow had 12.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Tenshot13 on May 18, 2021, 03:14:05 pm
Tebow Started 11 games, Tua started 9
Tebow had 1729 yards passing, Tua had 1814 yards passing in less games
Tebow had a 46.5% completion percentage, Tua had 64.1%
You're comparing Tebow's second year to Tua's first, so that's another apples to oranges comparison.

Step your troll game up.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: dolphins4life on May 18, 2021, 03:22:19 pm
Tebow Started 11 games, Tua started 9
Tebow had 1729 yards passing, Tua had 1814 yards passing in less games
Tebow had a 46.5% completion percentage, Tua had 64.1%
You're comparing Tebow's second year to Tua's first, so that's another apples to oranges comparison.

Step your troll game up.
.  Who won?  My point is that some quarterbacks get the breaks so maybe if Miami tried Tebow they would


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: stinkfish on May 18, 2021, 03:34:54 pm
I would have loved seeing Tebow get a tryout after college with Miami as a TE or maybe even Fullback, but definitely NOT as a QB, but he was just so stubborn about being a QB. 


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Spider-Dan on May 18, 2021, 04:11:04 pm
Tebow was 7-4.  Tua was 5-3. (Not counting the Oakland game that was saved).
ua bea LAR, AR, LAC, NYJ, CN, and NE.  He los o DEN, KC, and BUF.
6-3, .667 wn %

ebow's 7-4 is a .636 wn %... n hs SECOND year, no hs frs.

f you wan o compare passng sascs, ua wns handly n passer rang and QBR.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: dolphins4life on May 18, 2021, 04:19:05 pm
ua bea LAR, AR, LAC, NYJ, CN, and NE.  He los o DEN, KC, and BUF.
6-3, .667 wn %

ebow's 7-4 is a .636 wn %... n hs SECOND year, no hs frs.

f you wan o compare passng sascs, ua wns handly n passer rang and QBR.

I only care about wins.  If a quarterback plays worse than another but still wins, I want him.  The dolphins started 3-3 with Fitzpatrick.  Tua won five games. Fitzpatrick came off the bench to win one game and started another and won when tua was hurt.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Dave Gray on May 18, 2021, 05:50:19 pm
I only care about wins.

This.

This is a dumb statement.  It's really dumb and you need to look inward and handle that.  This statement shows a lack of understanding in the game, how it works, and what makes teams good and bad.  Everyone on this site is trying to illustrate this to you over and over and you're too stubborn to listen to any of us.

Football is a team game that not only has 47 player rosters, but separate offense and defense and special teams.  On top of that, there are divisions of greatly varying ease of coming out on top AND there is schedule imbalance.  Tim Tebow made it to the playoffs with 8 wins in a division that was horrific.  The offense of his team was bad.  He was also bad.  They got wins (and not that many of them) because they were doing enough things despite Tebow.

Tebow was not good enough to play NFL QB, which is why he no longer does.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Spider-Dan on May 18, 2021, 06:19:37 pm
I only care about wins.
n ebow's FRST year he was 1-2.
ua's career wn % s beer han ebow's.
Q.E.D.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: dolphins4life on May 18, 2021, 06:40:20 pm
This.

This is a dumb statement.  It's really dumb and you need to look inward and handle that.  This statement shows a lack of understanding in the game, how it works, and what makes teams good and bad.  Everyone on this site is trying to illustrate this to you over and over and you're too stubborn to listen to any of us.

Football is a team game that not only has 47 player rosters, but separate offense and defense and special teams.  On top of that, there are divisions of greatly varying ease of coming out on top AND there is schedule imbalance.  Tim Tebow made it to the playoffs with 8 wins in a division that was horrific.  The offense of his team was bad.  He was also bad.  They got wins (and not that many of them) because they were doing enough things despite Tebow.

Tebow was not good enough to play NFL QB, which is why he no longer does.
  I believed that until Brady won the Super Bow this year with TB, even though he had itte effect on it.  Some quarterbacks have a "Thing" about them that enables their teams to win.  Marino never had it.  Manning never had it, he only won because of the refs.  Aikman had it.  Tebow had it to some extent.   


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Tenshot13 on May 18, 2021, 06:46:55 pm
 I believed that until Brady won the Super Bow this year with TB, even though he had itte effect on it.  Some quarterbacks have a "Thing" about them that enables their teams to win.  Marino never had it.  Manning never had it, he only won because of the refs.  Aikman had it.  Tebow had it to some extent.  
Brady had more touchdowns than anyone except Rodgers and more yards than anyone other than 3 other QBs.
 Brady was a top 5 QB last season try again.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: dolphins4life on May 18, 2021, 09:02:56 pm
Brady had more touchdowns than anyone except Rodgers and more yards than anyone other than 3 other QBs.
 Brady was a top 5 QB last season try again.
 Brady threw three interceptions in the conference tite game and sti won.  The Bucs defense scored or set up FIVE touchdowns in the payoffs.  They won the super bowl on the strength of their defense and the stupidity of Kansas City


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: dolphins4life on May 18, 2021, 09:27:31 pm
You know the amazing thing about Tebow’s victory?   He had to overcome a bad call that would have allowed Denver to clinch the game earlier.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Spider-Dan on May 18, 2021, 09:58:46 pm
You know the amazing thing about Tebow’s victory?   He had to overcome a bad call that would have allowed Denver to clinch the game earlier.
Anoher amazng hng DEN had o overcome was a QB wh 9 compleons (on 20 aemps) in regulaon.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: dolphins4life on May 18, 2021, 11:40:07 pm
BUT THEY WON!!    Which is infinitely more payoff victories than any Miami quarterback since the start of the twenty oh one season.  Brady's teams have had to overcome many games in which he payed bad, but they won. 


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: dolphins4life on May 18, 2021, 11:40:55 pm
Anoher amazng hng DEN had o overcome was a QB wh 9 compleons (on 20 aemps) in regulaon.
  How did you decide which keys you are pretending are broken?.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: dolphins4life on May 18, 2021, 11:47:29 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Idx5wsH6Fys (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Idx5wsH6Fys)


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Dolphster on May 19, 2021, 08:39:32 am
This.

This is a dumb statement.  It's really dumb and you need to look inward and handle that.  This statement shows a lack of understanding in the game, how it works, and what makes teams good and bad.  Everyone on this site is trying to illustrate this to you over and over and you're too stubborn to listen to any of us.


I've been telling you guys for years that y'all are getting played by that guy.  Nobody can be as "intellectually challenged" (see, I'm trying to say it nicer than I used to) as his posts make him seem. 


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Spider-Dan on May 19, 2021, 11:48:59 am
No personal attacks, please.  If you want to dispute an argument, then do so.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: dolphins4life on May 19, 2021, 11:57:07 am
What dave said is what I espoused for years.  But the point of football is to win.  If a quarterback isn’t as good as another quarterback but gets all the breaks, I will take him.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Spider-Dan on May 19, 2021, 12:00:15 pm
BUT THEY WON!!    Which is infinitely more payoff victories than any Miami quarterback since the start of the twenty oh one season.
Wrong.  ha may be more playoff vcores han he Dolphns, bu no more han any QB ha has played for he Dolphns.

Brock Osweler had a playoff vcory n 2016, whch s four years more recen han ebow's las playoff wn.
And  looks lke he's avalable rght now!



Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Tenshot13 on May 19, 2021, 12:10:18 pm
Wrong.  ha may be more playoff vcores han he Dolphns, bu no more han any QB ha has played for he Dolphns.

Brock Osweler had a playoff vcory n 2016, whch s four years more recen han ebow's las playoff wn.
And  looks lke he's avalable rght now!


I have to admire you staying with the schtick this whole time.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: bsmooth on May 19, 2021, 12:41:37 pm
You know the amazing thing about Tebow’s victory?   He had to overcome a bad call that would have allowed Denver to clinch the game earlier.

He didn't overcome anything. Bad calls happen in every single game. However Tebow dumped off a short pas and Thomas turned it into an 80yd touchdown by breaking tackles and being a great player. This after coming off a broken leg.
The player who carried the Broncos that season was Prater. The defense kept the inept Tebow led offense in the game, or sealed victories during that run of victories.
Your incessant defense of Tebow once again demonstrates how little you truly understand about football.
If Tebow could have been legitimate starting QB, he would have stayed in the league. He might have been a hell of a TE if he had put his fragile ego and pride aside.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Spider-Dan on May 19, 2021, 12:50:07 pm
I have to admire you staying with the schtick this whole time.
I have been informed that it's completely normal and easy to have to translate garbled and broken posts into normal English.

There are certain experiences that you cannot simply tell a person about; you have to show them.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on May 19, 2021, 01:21:21 pm
No personal attacks, please.  If you want to dispute an argument, then do so.

Wrong.  ha may be more playoff vcores han he Dolphns, bu no more han any QB ha has played for he Dolphns.

Brock Osweler had a playoff vcory n 2016, whch s four years more recen han ebow's las playoff wn.
And  looks lke he's avalable rght now!

^^^^^
And that's not a personal attack? 


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Spider-Dan on May 19, 2021, 01:54:02 pm
That's not a personal attack.  D4L claimed that Tebow had more playoff victories than "any Miami quarterback" since 2001, which is false: Brock Osweiler, who was a Miami quarterback in 2018, had a playoff victory in 2016.  (Jay Cutler also had a playoff victory in 2010.)


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Phishfan on May 19, 2021, 01:55:07 pm
That's not a personal attack.  D4L claimed that Tebow had more playoff victories than "any Miami quarterback" since 2001, which is false: Brock Osweiler had a playoff victory in 2016.  (Jay Cutler also had a playoff victory in 2010.)

I think he meant your typing.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Spider-Dan on May 19, 2021, 01:58:31 pm
Again, not a personal attack: D4L is claiming that knowingly posting broken and jumbled typing (due to a "broken keyboard") makes no meaningful impact on the readability of his posts.  I disagree with his opinion, and am providing evidence to the contrary.

That's not a personal attack; it is a refutation of an argument being presented.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: dolphins4life on May 19, 2021, 02:25:36 pm
Wrong.  ha may be more playoff vcores han he Dolphns, bu no more han any QB ha has played for he Dolphns.

Brock Osweler had a playoff vcory n 2016, whch s four years more recen han ebow's las playoff wn.
And  looks lke he's avalable rght now!



Big difference.  Osweiler DID get a chance after his playoff victory.  In 2018 with Miami.  Since Tebow led Denver to victory in 2011, he has not been allowed to start an nfl regular season game


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: dolphins4life on May 19, 2021, 02:37:30 pm
He didn't overcome anything. Bad calls happen in every single game. However Tebow dumped off a short pas and Thomas turned it into an 80yd touchdown by breaking tackles and being a great player. This after coming off a broken leg.
The player who carried the Broncos that season was Prater. The defense kept the inept Tebow led offense in the game, or sealed victories during that run of victories.
Your incessant defense of Tebow once again demonstrates how little you truly understand about football.
If Tebow could have been legitimate starting QB, he would have stayed in the league. He might have been a hell of a TE if he had put his fragile ego and pride aside.

But he won.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Spider-Dan on May 19, 2021, 02:43:15 pm
Big difference.  Osweiler DID get a chance after his playoff victory.  In 2018 with Miami.  Since Tebow led Denver to victory in 2011, he has not been allowed to start an nfl regular season game
So now we're alkng abou "getting chances"?
ua had a much beer frs season than ebow.  ua has earned a "chance" far more han a 33-year-old who has been cu by mulple teams.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: dolphins4life on May 19, 2021, 03:00:18 pm
So now we're alkng abou "getting chances"?
ua had a much beer frs season than ebow.  ua has earned a "chance" far more han a 33-year-old who has been cu by mulple teams.

Btw I can understand your posts fully


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Dolphster on May 19, 2021, 04:10:57 pm
No personal attacks, please.  If you want to dispute an argument, then do so.

Even if the recipient of the personal attack really really deserves it?   ;)    Personally, people here can insult me all they want.  Wouldn't bother me a bit.  Hell, I'm the first person to call myself a dumbass when I realize I said something dumbassy.   


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Dave Gray on May 19, 2021, 04:28:18 pm
Even if the recipient of the personal attack really really deserves it?   ;)    Personally, people here can insult me all they want.  Wouldn't bother me a bit.  Hell, I'm the first person to call myself a dumbass when I realize I said something dumbassy.   

The reason I don't allow personal attacks is because it kills discussion which is the whole point of this place.

You can call someone's argument dumb all day every day.  But calling a person dumb gets you nowhere.

You're encouraged to challenged dumb ideas.  But you gotta accept dumb people.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Dolphster on May 19, 2021, 04:36:03 pm
The reason I don't allow personal attacks is because it kills discussion which is the whole point of this place.

You can call someone's argument dumb all day every day.  But calling a person dumb gets you nowhere.

You're encouraged to challenged dumb ideas.  But you gotta accept dumb people.

Oh I know, Dave.  That is why I put the wink emoji in my comment.  It's all good.  I totally understand why the personal attacks aren't allowed.  And it is a good rule to have.  Even when I yank people's chains a little bit in here, it is never really meant to be personal and is meant in good fun.  Being a little older, I'm just more from a generation where kicking each other in the nuts a little bit was just what guys did and it was rarely taken personally. 


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Dave Gray on May 19, 2021, 05:23:04 pm
Oh I know, Dave.  That is why I put the wink emoji in my comment.  It's all good.  I totally understand why the personal attacks aren't allowed.  And it is a good rule to have.  Even when I yank people's chains a little bit in here, it is never really meant to be personal and is meant in good fun.  Being a little older, I'm just more from a generation where kicking each other in the nuts a little bit was just what guys did and it was rarely taken personally.  

I appreciate the understanding.  Believe me, sometimes I get so frustrated that I break my own rule and have to go delete my posts or I get called out by the other mods behind the scenes.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on May 28, 2021, 10:55:26 am
ESPN is reporting that Tebow could be used in a Taysom Hill role this season as well as a short yardage specialist.

At this point, it is almost 100% that Tebow is making the roster due to Urban's love for him and the Jags lack of talent. So, if any of you are into prop bets and there are some juicy ones about him making the roster, this is your heads up.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: CF DolFan on May 28, 2021, 11:59:30 am
ESPN is reporting that Tebow could be used in a Taysom Hill role this season as well as a short yardage specialist.

At this point, it is almost 100% that Tebow is making the roster due to Urban's love for him and the Jags lack of talent. So, if any of you are into prop bets and there are some juicy ones about him making the roster, this is your heads up.
The over/under for TD’s is 2.5. I might put some money down on the over because I see him catching one, full backing one in and then doing a nice jump pass. If they get down a lot I’m sure he will be facing a lot of backups ... LOL


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on May 28, 2021, 12:11:17 pm
The over/under for TD’s is 2.5. I might put some money down on the over because I see him catching one, full backing one in and then doing a nice jump pass. If they get down a lot I’m sure he will be facing a lot of backups ... LOL

He would make for a decent goal line back, I can see him getting some TD's this year that way and in some QB draw trick plays. However, the Jaguars suck and Lawrence is a rookie. You want to win games but the #1 realistic goal is getting Lawrence developed and you don't want to pull him out too much for trickery just to boost your record to 4-13.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on May 28, 2021, 07:37:58 pm
(https://static.www.nfl.com/image/private/t_editorial_landscape_12_desktop/league/szz4wrqxleirjuzbnojc)

Shit, I may draft Tebow for my fantasy team.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on May 29, 2021, 12:58:31 pm

Shit, I may draft Tebow for my fantasy team.

He is worth a 13th or 14th round pick in a 16 round draft

Odds are you will never play him, but he does have an upside.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on May 29, 2021, 03:13:35 pm
He is worth a 13th or 14th round pick in a 16 round draft

Odds are you will never play him, but he does have an upside.

He would just be a TD Vulture at the goal line via rushing or as a TE. I do not anticipate him making the Pro Bowl but he may stick around for a few years in a gimmick role.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: dolphins4life on May 29, 2021, 09:19:43 pm
He won't be on the roster by opening game.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on August 17, 2021, 10:28:29 am
The Jaguars released Tim Tebow.

Reports showed that it was obvious he couldn't play Tight End even though he did his best. This is very likely the last time we will hear his name in any official sports capacity aside from broadcasting and maybe one day coaching. He's a good dude but he got some bad luck and even worse advice throughout his sports career. Bad luck with the Jets trading for him for absolutely no reason and bad advice for not switching positions earlier.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Dolphster on August 17, 2021, 11:00:24 am
I am shocked.  Shocked!  :D I doubt we'll see it here, but I can guarantee you that the reader comments on FoxNews website, Drudge website etc will be chock full of people saying that he is an awesome TE and that the NFL just doesn't want him because they hate the baby Jesus.    Over the weekend I saw a great clip of a play from their pre season game where Tebow goes to throw a block on a running play.  He essentially whiffs on the defender and then runs into his own teammate.  At least he isn't taking up the roster spot of someone who might actually have a chance to make the roster now. 


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Phishfan on August 17, 2021, 11:59:37 am
But he never got a chance  ::)


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Sunstroke on August 17, 2021, 01:16:08 pm
the NFL just doesn't want him because they hate the baby Jesus.    

If the baby Jesus would stop cutting those less-than-heavenly farts in crowded rooms, more people would like him. ;)



...stand back...lightning a'coming!!



Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on August 17, 2021, 01:31:25 pm
He's done well for himself broadcasting on ESPN College Gameday.   He can focus on that full time now.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: CF DolFan on August 18, 2021, 02:46:00 pm
The Tebow story ended pretty much how most people thought it would other than no one expected him to be in the first round of cuts. Kudos to Meyer for being real with him.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on August 18, 2021, 03:06:47 pm
The Tebow story ended pretty much how most people thought it would other than no one expected him to be in the first round of cuts. Kudos to Meyer for being real with him.

Yeah, it was best not to drag him along. I felt there was a better than zero chance he would make the team due to how awful the Jags are, but it's hard to lay in the NFL, let alone learning a new position at 33 after a 10 year break. There just wasn't much upside to it because even if he picke dit up within a year or two, he is 35 then.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Dolphster on August 18, 2021, 03:23:43 pm
The Tebow story ended pretty much how most people thought it would other than no one expected him to be in the first round of cuts. Kudos to Meyer for being real with him.

I initially thought he would last past the first round of cuts too.  Just because Meyer felt some sense of obligation to him or whatever.  But with the film being out there of his "blocking prowess" from their game last week, it was going to be pretty hard to justify cutting someone else instead of him.  When you awkwardly whiff on the guy you are supposed to block and then stumble into your own man, that kind of video would not make Meyer look good for keeping him around another week. 


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: dolphins4life on August 18, 2021, 03:43:45 pm
And he still has a playoff win, something Miami has not had in over twenty years


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Spider-Dan on August 18, 2021, 04:05:59 pm
And he still has a playoff win, something Miami has not had in over twenty years
Someone get me Mark Sanchez immediately!


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on August 18, 2021, 04:29:11 pm
Someone get me Mark Sanchez immediately!

This just reminded me of their QBs taken in the draft since Chad Pennington and wow this does not bode well for Zach Wilson.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Dolphster on August 18, 2021, 04:49:53 pm
And he still has a playoff win, something Miami has not had in over twenty years

What specifically does that have to do with the Jaguars either signing him as a TE or cutting him as a TE?   After all, that is what the thread is about. 


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: dolphins4life on August 24, 2021, 05:49:05 pm
Someone get me Mark Sanchez immediately!
. Sanchez started games after his two year run.  Tebow has not started a game since his playoff season. 


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Phishfan on August 24, 2021, 08:38:45 pm
. Sanchez started games after his two year run.  Tebow has not started a game since his playoff season. 

He was never given a chance. Too bad.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Spider-Dan on August 25, 2021, 12:32:37 am
. Sanchez started games after his two year run.  Tebow has not started a game since his playoff season.
Tebow was prevented from starting because he could not beat out Mark Sanchez for a starting job.

I repeat: someone get me Mark Sanchez immediately!


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: dolphins4life on August 25, 2021, 01:19:41 am
It wasn't because he didn't beat him out.  It's because Rex Ryan is a moron.  Tom Brady didn't beat out Drew Bledsoe for the starting position either.   


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: dolphins4life on August 25, 2021, 01:20:15 am
It's an indication of how pathetic our team is.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Spider-Dan on August 25, 2021, 01:30:33 am
It wasn't because he didn't beat him out.  It's because Rex Ryan is a moron.
Sanchez was starting.  Therefore, Sanchez beat him.  Q.E.D.

Sadly, this doesn't even cover the depth of Tebow's failure, because after Sanchez was benched, Greg McElroy got the start over Tebow.  Then, after McElroy had to sit with a concussion, Sanchez was put back in as the starter for the final game of the season.

Quote
Tom Brady didn't beat out Drew Bledsoe for the starting position either.
Wrong.  Brady beat Bledsoe for a starting position twice: once when Bledsoe recovered from his injury and Belichick kept Brady as the starter, and AGAIN after Brady got hurt in the playoffs and Bledsoe won the AFC Championship Game, then Brady was declared the starter for the Super Bowl.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: dolphins4life on August 25, 2021, 01:48:16 am
Sanchez was starting.  Therefore, Sanchez beat him.  Q.E.D.

Sadly, this doesn't even cover the depth of Tebow's failure, because after Sanchez was benched, Greg McElroy got the start over Tebow.  Then, after McElroy had to sit with a concussion, Sanchez was put back in as the starter for the final game of the season.
Wrong.  Brady beat Bledsoe for a starting position twice: once when Bledsoe recovered from his injury and Belichick kept Brady as the starter, and AGAIN after Brady got hurt in the playoffs and Bledsoe won the AFC Championship Game, then Brady was declared the starter for the Super Bowl.
  No, that means Rex Ryan choose him.  Hence Rex Ryan is a moron. 


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Spider-Dan on August 25, 2021, 02:34:24 am
No, that means Rex Ryan choose him.  Hence Rex Ryan is a moron. 

Every quarterback competition is resolved by the head coach choosing who he thinks is the better player.

John Fox chose Tim Tebow to start over Kyle Orton (after Kyle Orton had already led a previous team to the playoffs).
John Fox then chose Peyton Manning to start over Tim Tebow.
Rex Ryan chose Mark Sanchez and Greg McElroy to start over Tim Tebow.
This is how coaching works.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Tenshot13 on August 25, 2021, 07:22:50 am
Tim Tebow was a terrible, terrible QB.  Let's not try to play the game that he wasn't given a fair shake.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on August 25, 2021, 09:13:41 am

Wrong.  Brady beat Bledsoe for a starting position twice: once when Bledsoe recovered from his injury and Belichick kept Brady as the starter, and AGAIN after Brady got hurt in the playoffs and Bledsoe won the AFC Championship Game, then Brady was declared the starter for the Super Bowl.

Three times.  There was a market to trade either Bledsoe or Brady in the offseason.  Quite a few reporters and fans thought the Patriots made the wrong choice at the time. 


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: dolphins4life on August 25, 2021, 10:46:45 am
Three times.  There was a market to trade either Bledsoe or Brady in the offseason.  Quite a few reporters and fans thought the Patriots made the wrong choice at the time. 
. One time Bledsoe won.  At the second half of the afc title game in 2001. Brady was ready to go back in, but belichick stayed with Bledsoe


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Dolphster on August 30, 2021, 09:24:00 pm
I can't believe no other team has picked up Tebow.  Must be because the NFL hates Christians.   :D


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: pondwater on August 30, 2021, 10:30:24 pm
I can't believe no other team has picked up Tebow.  Must be because the NFL hates Christians.   :D
Nobody hates anyone. He's washed up like Kaepernick. Maybe we should give them both another chance and put them in the octagon and let them beat the shit out of each other.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Spider-Dan on August 31, 2021, 03:03:55 am
One more thing:

Sanchez started games after his two year run.  Tebow has not started a game since his playoff season.
Tebow had the opportunity to go to JAX and start immediately.  He instead chose to go the Jets, where he knew he would be Sanchez's backup.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: dolphins4life on August 31, 2021, 03:22:59 am
One more thing:
Tebow had the opportunity to go to JAX and start immediately.  He instead chose to go the Jets, where he knew he would be Sanchez's backup.
  Wonder if he ever gave an explanation for that.  Maybe he was still suffering from the Brady effect from the divisional round loss , which forces people to do utterly stupid things.       


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Spider-Dan on August 31, 2021, 03:25:18 am
Tim Tebow is responsible for his own decision not to go to JAX and be the starter.
Trying to somehow blame Tom Brady for that decision is ridiculous.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: dolphins4life on August 31, 2021, 03:46:14 am
Tim Tebow is responsible for his own decision not to start in JAX.
Trying to somehow blame Tom Brady for that decision is ridiculous.
 It's a reference to how teams Brady plays in the playoffs always seem to mess up in unthinkable ways.  I call this "The Brady Effect"  My previous post was satire.  Tebow's final start was against Brady and NE


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Phishfan on August 31, 2021, 01:51:03 pm
I can't believe no other team has picked up Tebow.  Must be because the NFL hates Christians.   :D

They just won't give him a chance. Such a shame.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on August 31, 2021, 02:25:15 pm
They just won't give him a chance. Such a shame.

Such a shame that we have a nine page thread dedicated to a third string TE who hasn't played professional football in ten years and literally had no shot of making this team. 


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: pondwater on August 31, 2021, 03:29:27 pm
Such a shame that we have a nine page thread dedicated to a third string TE who hasn't played professional football in ten years and literally had no shot of making this team. 
Can you imagine the kind of silly shit we would be reading here right now if he would have made the team lol


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on August 31, 2021, 04:21:54 pm
One more thing:
Tebow had the opportunity to go to JAX and start immediately.  He instead chose to go the Jets, where he knew he would be Sanchez's backup.

Wait, I thought Tebow was traded from the Broncos to the Jets?


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Dolphster on August 31, 2021, 07:31:54 pm
Such a shame that we have a nine page thread dedicated to a third string TE who hasn't played professional football in ten years and literally had no shot of making this team. 

Haha, I practically said the same thing on page 3 of this thread way back in May.  We didn't have much NFL stuff to talk about this summer obviously.  LOL


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Spider-Dan on August 31, 2021, 09:47:08 pm
Wait, I thought Tebow was traded from the Broncos to the Jets?
After signing Peyton as a free agent, John Elway wanted to do good by Tebow following his playoff victory, so he let Tebow choose among the different (comparable) offers DEN had on the table.  One option was to go to JAX, where Tebow almost certainly would have been the starter; another was to go to NYJ and be Sanchez's backup.  Tebow chose the latter (https://www.jacksonville.com/article/20120326/SPORTS/801255798).


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on August 31, 2021, 10:04:30 pm
^^^

What a dumbass. Why be someone's backup in a place like that when you can be a starter in your home state?


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Spider-Dan on September 01, 2021, 12:04:00 am
1) New York is New York; Jacksonville is Jacksonville.
2) There was a not insignificant chance that Sanchez would suck, Tebow could slide in, and reproduce the same season he had in Denver (solid defense with mediocre QB play and a few lucky breaks).  Unfortunately, the problem was that Tebow was even worse than Sanchez.

It seems likely that Tim Tebow knew that he is not a Drew Brees or a Matt Ryan.  He was never going to go to a bad team and make them good; his ceiling was to go to a good (or at least average) team and hope to coast on some lucky breaks.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Phishfan on September 01, 2021, 08:37:18 pm
The article says Tebow made the decision because he was more comfortable with the Jets staff and thought he had a better chance of starting in New York. Solid reasons for making his choice, as misguided as his opinion of himself was.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Spider-Dan on September 01, 2021, 10:28:01 pm
If Tebow honestly thought he had a "better" chance to start on the Jets than on the Jaguars, he's dumber than his worst critics claim he is.  Personally, I don't think Tebow is that stupid; I think that was simply a transparent lie on his part.

In the article I cited earlier, Khan said that JAX wouldn't guarantee Tebow a starting position and that he would have to earn it in training camp, but the Jets wouldn't even go that far (https://www.espn.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/7720305/new-york-jets-denver-broncos-complete-tim-tebow-trade-second-time):

Tannenbaum emphasized that the team is committed to Sanchez.

"Mark Sanchez is, has been and will be our starting quarterback," he said, noting that he had spoken to both quarterbacks and explained their roles.

Tebow said he had a "great conversation" Wednesday with Sanchez, adding that they've been friends for several years.

"My goal is to push him to get better and to push myself to get better every day," said Tebow, who won't be introduced publicly until Friday at the earliest, "but I think we'll have a great working relationship. We'll have a great relationship off the field, and we've had that the last few years. He's such a classy guy and handles himself so well, and I'll be very honored to call him my teammate."


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: Phishfan on September 02, 2021, 12:51:45 pm
Thou shalt not lie


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: dolphins4life on December 28, 2022, 01:23:08 am
BUMP

Tim Tebow still remains in the exclusive club of quarterbacks that have more playoffs wins than the Dolphins since 2001.

Unless a miracle happens in two weeks, it will stay that way.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: masterfins on December 28, 2022, 11:28:03 pm
BUMP

Tim Tebow still remains in the exclusive club of quarterbacks that have more playoffs wins than the Dolphins since 2001.

Unless a miracle happens in two weeks, it will stay that way.

Yeah there's dozens of others that fall into this category, not really a relevant category.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow Signs with Jaguars
Post by: dolphins4life on December 29, 2022, 12:29:31 am
Sure is a relevant category.  It's a measure of how pathetic the Dolphins are.