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I'm of the opinion that I don't think he'll get a head coaching position, I think he'll end up taking a defensive coordinator position with someone. He clearly is appealing for that position, but head coach? I don't see it.

Depends on what jobs are available and who else is. Even though we have a deeper understanding of his failures, his on the surface resume is pretty impressive. If a team wants more of a known commodity and not just the Coordinator Du Jour, he would get lots of offers.

EDIT: With the Texans firing their coach and Flores having lots of ties to the Texans, I think he is the front runner for that job right now. Josh McDaniels would be too but teams don't want to wait too long and miss out. If the Pats win this weekend, that's another week minimum where he can't interview.

Flores will be on the Texans sidelines as HC next year

I think he gets one if he wants one.  If he's smart he'll only take the HC job if the team is a good fit with some potential to succeed.  He'd be dumb to take a job with a team like the Giants that has an organization that rivals Miami's ineptitude.  You only get a couple HC job opportunities in your career, so no point in wasting it on a team with no immediate future.

He could get a HC gig.  He would be better off not.  He has only served under one HC.  He would be best served to see how a different HC operates and a different organization, and then develop his own style by taking aspects of both rather than trying to clone one person.  

So Flores .. who wanted us to trade 3-4 1st round picks to the texans for a rapist has such deep ties to the texans that they fired their head coach the minute he became available ..

interesting.

Watson said he wanted to play for Flores or Eric Bienemy.  He got pissed off when the Texans interviewed Bienemy last year then passed on him and hired Culley.

Did they even interview Eric? I thought they declined to do so.

The Texans seem like a good landing spot, for many reasons:

- already infested with ex-Patriots
- front office won't be averse to The Patriot Way (i.e. dickishness)
- Watson purportedly likes Flores, so this may salvage the relationship and convince him to stay

This is something that I see people say, but I just don't see it.  I'm not saying that Flores can't go somewhere and be good, but what exactly is impressive about his resume here?  What are other teams seeing?  Under .500 record, can't beat good teams, gets blown out with season on the line in multiple years, seems to have internal issues with staff/players.  I just don't see what's impressive about him on paper.

I wouldn't be surprised.  It's probably the only way the Texans salvage anything out of Watson.  Watson won't play for them as things stand, and no team wants to give up the ransom that the Texans want in a trade.  Flores could probably go a long way to improving their defense.  The problem again would be building an offensive coaching staff, but perhaps Watson wouldn't need all the help that Tua needed/needs.

What is the status of Watson's legal issues, I haven't seen any new reports in quite a while.

"The Dolphins, who are a terrible franchise with no good players that probably should have lost every game, won nearly half of their games while he was coach.  Therefore Flores is a miracle worker"

Last I heard is that he is trying to settle but that is easier said than done. With 22 claims, he is either the country's most notorious rapist or a lot of them are lying and the lawyer is trying to squeeze out every dollar he can. If Watson is NOT going to be traded, the urgency to get things resolved isn't quite there so the lawyer may want to settle soon if Flores becomes a Texan and Watson wants to stay.

In open court, they won't get a dime. Guilty or not, these claims are very hard to prove.

The Texans have to pay Watson $35M per year for two more years so I imagine the Lawyers are pushing for very high settlements.  The lawyers won't want to wait for ever to get paid, so once they get greedy a deal will get done.

I'm sure they are but they have to realize that as soon as Watson says "I'm staying a Texan" and the team agrees, they lost all their leverage. They simply cannot prove their case in court and the defendants are open to purjury charges if they are lying and called to testify, which they will. It's one thing to sign your name to a lawsuit to get a check, it's quite another to try to prosecute someone in court.

At the end of the day, they probably settle for small potatoes. Watson is loudly claiming his innocence so he wouldn't want to 1) Give up a lot of his money for something he claims he didn't do and 2) Settle for large money and be found guilty in the court of public opinion

I always felt he was innocent of assault charges, he is just a fucking moron who didn't know to use his agent to get him hookers.

This is the GM in Houston saying this and he definitely wouldn't be saying this if there was even a remote chance he could play for Houston because it has implications on their head coaching search. The fact he's saying this is proof beyond reasonable doubt that Watson is done in Houston. All that remains to be seen is what team he ends up playing for in 2022 or if he's out of the NFL for another year.

https://sports.yahoo.com/texans-gm-nick-caserio-deshaun-watson-is-more-than-likely-done-in-houston-for-good-211738734.html

Really stupid thing for the GM to say as it will prevent them from getting the best coach possible as well as the best trade package possible. The Texans right now have very little talent but Watson is a star QB. His issues with the team are a combination of totally legitimate and some diva behavior. It is the Texans who said he couldn't play in 2021. The relationship is clearly damaged but I don't see how a guy like Flores could be hired and not get him back on the field. They have him sit any more games and his trade package will be a 3rd rounder in 2025.

The main problem has always been Texans management and ownership and it will be until they sell the team.

I agree.   But the article ends with a misleading comment about trading back just to move. If Houston is really done with Watson, they need to do everything they can to replace him in the draft, plus recoup some of the picks they lost in past trades in order to restock the talent cupboard on this team.  The QBs targeted to go in the first round this year aren't exactly going in the top ten, so trading back to the middle of the first round and picking up extra picks is huge.

What you are saying makes total sense and Houston will do none of it because they are a horribly run franchise who seems intent on running a franchise QB out of town for pennies on the dollar. While paying him tens of millions to stay home.

A very dark and disturbed part of me wants us to trade for Watson now and send over Tua if Flores is named their Head Coach.

Not necessarily IMO.  There are a lot of coaches that are not going to want to deal with all the bad press that Watson brings.  It's going to be a huge distraction once he takes the field again, if he ever does.  It's just as likely many top coaching candidates would not want to go to Houston because of all the uncertainty surrounding Watson.

At first it would be a circus but after Week 2, it would be gone. Once Watson and the team agree to work together, this is all over. Any HC would rather have Watson then the rookie QB they just had or who knows who else?

If they can't work together then a different story but I don't think any candidate would prefer a Watson trade over him staying.

Starting to look more and more like Flores won't be offered a head coaching job. That's what I thought. All that BS about him being the most sought after was ridiculous.

I think people aren't appreciating the interview process. As a Head Coach, you have to lead men on the field and convince management and owners that you are worth the huge investment in guiding a team to a championship. If you interview like some kid out of college just grateful for an opportunity, they will probably go elsewhere. On the flip side, if you act like an arrogant prick then maybe ownership knows you will be hard to deal with and not hire you.

I think if Flores interviewed poorly, it's probably because he didn't take any blame for his failures or answered the Tua questions wrong.

When one of the teams searching for a head coach appears set on hiring a HIGH SCHOOL coach (with zero other coaching experience)... that's not exactly rational. Might as well believe in the Easterbunny.

Given Flores' lawsuit and revenge move against Ross and the Dolphins by saying Ross would pay him $100K per game to lose; he will never ever get another HC job in the NFL.  And I don't think he will ever even get a DC job in the NFL.  He better start looking at college Asst Coaching jobs, and he better invest the millions Ross paid him wisely.

Assistant coach with Steelers.

Well I certainly don't see Lovie Smith hiring him ... hahaha. At this point I wouldworry about Flores undermining me if he was my assistant. He's shown he is his favorite person.

Good for Flores.  I thought his lawsuit would certainly spell the end of his career in the NFL, and it's appropriate that it's Art Rooney's team who hires him.

I don't bear any ill will towards Flores.  I believe he's a dick because he was taught by a dick that being a dick is the path to winning.  Maybe he can learn and grow under Tomlin.

Minkah Fitzpatrick should be ecstatic to be reunited with Flores LMFAO

He should demand a trade to Miami.

Fortunately for Minkah, Flores is LB coach and not DC.

If NFL teams were compared to corporations, then the Steelers are like Disney.   Fan friendly and the players and coaches are expected to conduct themselves on and off the field in a proper manner.  Cutting up will not be tolerated.   I'm sure Steelers ownership clearly explained that to Flores before they hired him and Flores agreed to those terms.   He's a position coach now so he doesn't have final authority.   Whether or not he can work his way back up to a head coaching job remains to be seen.

Perfect fit since according to Minkah, Flores wanted him to flex play at SS and LB. Hopefully, when Fitzpatrick heard the news, he contacted Tomlin and/or the DC and let him know to keep Flores away from any input regarding his fit in the scheme.

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Let's not go crazy with the squeaky-clean comparisons to Disney.

Big Ben is the exception and not the rule.   He's lucky he's a QB.  Any trade involving him after those rape accusations would've been at a fire sale rate and wouldn't land them a starting QB in return.   If he played any other position, he would've been gone a long time ago

EDITED TO ADD: The information I posted about the Steelers was given to me by a couple of friends who are Steeler fans.