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Title: Deebo Samuel Requests Trade
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on April 20, 2022, 03:48:00 pm
He is unhappy with the progress of his extension talks and requested a trade. Also did the typical modern day stuff like deleted the Niners from his social media, didn't show up for voluntary camp.

In the end, I feel the Niners will sign him to a new deal because he is so valuable and guys like him don't grow on trees. However, if he is traded for a big draft pick haul, the team will be much worse off in 2022 and that's our draft pick so let's all hope that a trade goes through. Don't care what picks they get as long as they're worse in 2022 and he isn't traded to an AFC contender.


Title: Re: Deebo Samuel Requests Trade
Post by: Spider-Dan on April 20, 2022, 04:04:17 pm
This is good news for the Dolphins, no matter how you slice it.  Either Deebo gets traded for picks (that will be used on players that are not as good as him in 2022), or he chews up some more cap space for SF.

A great scenario is Deebo and Jimmy G in new uniforms for the 2022 season.  The best case scenario is both of them being traded after the 2022 draft for picks in 2023.


Title: Re: Deebo Samuel Requests Trade
Post by: Sunstroke on April 20, 2022, 04:17:42 pm
This is good news for the Dolphins, no matter how you slice it.  Either Deebo gets traded for picks (that will be used on players that are not as good as him in 2022), or he chews up some more cap space for SF.

A great scenario is Deebo and Jimmy G in new uniforms for the 2022 season.  The best case scenario is both of them being traded after the 2022 draft for picks in 2023.

I am lost as to how this would benefit Miami in any way...or is this just your anti-Niner angst taking center stage?

If the latter...please take a moment to go fuck yourself. :-)




Title: Re: Deebo Samuel Requests Trade
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on April 20, 2022, 04:21:06 pm
This is good news for the Dolphins, no matter how you slice it.  Either Deebo gets traded for picks (that will be used on players that are not as good as him in 2022), or he chews up some more cap space for SF.

A great scenario is Deebo and Jimmy G in new uniforms for the 2022 season.  The best case scenario is both of them being traded after the 2022 draft for picks in 2023.

As far as 2022 goes, the team is basically all set so the cap space issue for this year won't be much of a problem. Whatever happens to the Niners past this year is none of my concern like whatever happened to the Texans past 2021. I would prefer he were traded to an NFC team or a bad AFC team and they start Trey Lance all year, but I'll take any pick that isn't from a playoff team.


Title: Re: Deebo Samuel Requests Trade
Post by: Spider-Dan on April 20, 2022, 04:32:36 pm
I am lost as to how this would benefit Miami in any way...or is this just your anti-Niner angst taking center stage?
MIA has SF's first-round pick in 2023.  Any development that pushes SF towards trading currently-good players for future draft picks (i.e. developing for the future) makes them worse this year, which is good news for the team that has their first-round pick in 2023.


Title: Re: Deebo Samuel Requests Trade
Post by: Spider-Dan on April 20, 2022, 04:37:14 pm
I would prefer he were traded to an NFC team or a bad AFC team and they start Trey Lance all year, but I'll take any pick that isn't from a playoff team.
I think the best destination from MIA's perspective is the NFC South (which plays the NFC West this year).  NO, ATL, and CAR should all still be in the QB market, so sending Deebo and Jimmy there will also improve their chances against SF this season.


Title: Re: Deebo Samuel Requests Trade
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on April 21, 2022, 02:49:25 pm
I think the best destination from MIA's perspective is the NFC South (which plays the NFC West this year).  NO, ATL, and CAR should all still be in the QB market, so sending Deebo and Jimmy there will also improve their chances against SF this season.

Yeah, but the Falcons are rebuilding(a year too late), the Saints have no money and I think Deebo would rather retire than play for an incompetent Panthers team with no QB and then no draft picks.

Sad truth is, the Jets would be the best fit since he knows their coaches and they got the draft/salary capital to afford him. He wouldn't put them over the top but it would make beating them twice a year harder.


Title: Re: Deebo Samuel Requests Trade
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on April 21, 2022, 03:12:46 pm
I say wait until after the draft, then bring him in.   We've got the necessary draft capital next year to use in order to make a deal.   Deebo, Hill and Waddle would scare the socks off any DB coach.   And with Deebo running the ball from time to time, that would definitely keep opposing DCs guessing.


Title: Re: Deebo Samuel Requests Trade
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on April 21, 2022, 03:27:57 pm
I say wait until after the draft, then bring him in.   We've got the necessary draft capital next year to use in order to make a deal.   Deebo, Hill and Waddle would scare the socks off any DB coach.   And with Deebo running the ball from time to time, that would definitely keep opposing DCs guessing.

There would honestly be not enough plays to go around for them all, plus our cap would be dead for years. The opposing defense would piss themselves as 3 different guys can take it to the house on a screen play but it ain't gonna happen.

If any move happens, it will be before the draft. The Niners don't want to punt away the season by trading their best player for draft picks they won't have until next year.


Title: Re: Deebo Samuel Requests Trade
Post by: stinkfish on April 22, 2022, 12:24:33 am
I have an idea. Let’s package Parker and a future draft pick or two in a trade for Deebo.
Oh wait, that can’t happen because the dolphins gifted Parker to the Patises. We’ll have to start calling Parker “Pahkah. Dooood”


Title: Re: Deebo Samuel Requests Trade
Post by: Spider-Dan on April 22, 2022, 01:30:37 am
MIA already has enough resources invested in the receiver position.
Spend Deebo's salary on a center and/or a LB.


Title: Re: Deebo Samuel Requests Trade
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on April 22, 2022, 09:25:03 am
MIA already has enough resources invested in the receiver position.
Spend Deebo's salary on a center and/or a LB.

If we can't draft the Center we want with our 3rd round pick, I think we get Tretter the following morning. Everyone is waiting on the draft for "second free agency" so I can only assume that is why he is still available.


Title: Re: Deebo Samuel Requests Trade
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on April 28, 2022, 10:13:15 am
FWIW, Deebo would have to agree to a contract extension and pass a physical within a few hours in order to be traded so that the Niners could get 2022 draft picks. That seems very unlikely so he isn't going anywhere unless they want to punt the season and focus on 2023.


Title: Re: Deebo Samuel Requests Trade
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on April 28, 2022, 10:18:38 am
FWIW, Deebo would have to agree to a contract extension and pass a physical within a few hours in order to be traded so that the Niners could get 2022 draft picks. That seems very unlikely so he isn't going anywhere unless they want to punt the season and focus on 2023.

The Jets are reportedly offering one of their first round picks(pick 10 I believe), their second round pick, their fourth round pick, a second rounder next year, and Elijah Moore for Deebo.


Title: Re: Deebo Samuel Requests Trade
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on April 28, 2022, 10:50:22 am
The Jets are reportedly offering one of their first round picks(pick 10 I believe), their second round pick, their fourth round pick, a second rounder next year, and Elijah Moore for Deebo.

That's a good haul for the Niners since it's a Top 10 pick, but it's not the most loaded draft ever and they just gave a ton away for Trey Lance, so I think they're more inclined to keep him unless the Jets throw in both 1st rounders.


Title: Re: Deebo Samuel Requests Trade
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on April 28, 2022, 12:49:35 pm
ESPN's NY Jets reporter says he hears a deal isn't dead yet and a trade could get done during the draft depending on who is available at 10.

NY Reporters are notoriously garbage who make things up for clicks and this is probably no different. The fact is if the Jets want Deebo, that #4 pick is coming to the Niners. Plus, a trade would be done without a physical or contract extension being done? Incredibly dangerous.


Title: Re: Deebo Samuel Requests Trade
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on April 30, 2022, 11:22:19 am
The Atlantic reported that the Jets offered the #10 pick and a 5th rounder but wanted a 2nd rounder back with Deebo. That's a joke of a trade offer considering what WRs went for this offseason.

Looks like there is no real trade market for Deebo so he will stay a Niner.


Title: Re: Deebo Samuel Requests Trade
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on August 01, 2022, 09:43:16 am
Looks like all this trade business has been put to bed.   The Niners just signed Deebo to a three year deal worth over $71 million with over $58 million guaranteed.


Title: Re: Deebo Samuel Requests Trade
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on August 01, 2022, 11:02:55 am
Looks like all this trade business has been put to bed.   The Niners just signed Deebo to a three year deal worth over $71 million with over $58 million guaranteed.

The timing of it played against a trade for Deebo, it was too close to the draft. After the trade market for other WRs was set, it always seemed unlikely that he would be traded this offseason. Maybe next offseason if Lance falls flat on his face this year and they want to try for a rebuild.


Title: Re: Deebo Samuel Requests Trade
Post by: Sunstroke on August 06, 2022, 10:25:22 pm

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