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Title: Peter King: Jets Would Love to Have Rodgers
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 24, 2023, 11:46:16 am
Not a whole lot to this right now but it's a logicla fit, at least on the field. Jets can afford his salary and have a solid roster but no QB. Rodgers would attract some talent and the Jets could be an instant contender.

That being said, Aaron and the NY media? Goes together like Peanut Butter and Drano. Not to mention the AFC East is a pretty tough division and it may not be desirable for him.


Title: Re: Peter King: Jets Would Love to Have Rodgers
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 24, 2023, 11:55:31 am
Signing a diva former Packers QB at the tail end of his career worked out so well for them last time. Of course they want to do it again.


Title: Re: Peter King: Jets Would Love to Have Rodgers
Post by: Dave Gray on January 24, 2023, 11:56:06 am
Go for it.  The odds of winning a championship that way are pretty low, IMO.  And then you sacrifice your future for a while, because you put resources into a player that you're not developing and the window closes.

It can work if you're one or two players away, but I don't think the Jets are that.


Title: Re: Peter King: Jets Would Love to Have Rodgers
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 24, 2023, 12:14:09 pm
Go for it.  The odds of winning a championship that way are pretty low, IMO.  And then you sacrifice your future for a while, because you put resources into a player that you're not developing and the window closes.

It can work if you're one or two players away, but I don't think the Jets are that.

I don't think they are either, but if Rodgers can still be elite, that's a playoff team. Maybe his arrival means he can attract some free agents and ring chasers to bridge the gapo between them and a legit contender. At the very least, I have no desire to play Rodgers twice a year so I hope it never happens.


Title: Re: Peter King: Jets Would Love to Have Rodgers
Post by: Dave Gray on January 24, 2023, 12:26:35 pm
I think Rodgers has been great, historically, but is he still "elite"?

I think he's still good, but you gotta think his best years are behind him and the window is very, very small.  I don't doubt that maybe he gets you to the playoffs, but then what?  It's like you're sacrificing the future to make the playoffs twice.


Title: Re: Peter King: Jets Would Love to Have Rodgers
Post by: CF DolFan on January 24, 2023, 02:28:54 pm
I think Rodgers has been great, historically, but is he still "elite"?

I think he's still good, but you gotta think his best years are behind him and the window is very, very small.  I don't doubt that maybe he gets you to the playoffs, but then what?  It's like you're sacrificing the future to make the playoffs twice.
He was league MVP just last year with a better receiver so it's not like he's fallen off a cliff.


Title: Re: Peter King: Jets Would Love to Have Rodgers
Post by: Dave Gray on January 24, 2023, 02:32:44 pm
^ Age hits you fast.

Once the decline starts, it's pretty much there.


Title: Re: Peter King: Jets Would Love to Have Rodgers
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 24, 2023, 02:45:31 pm
^ Age hits you fast.

Once the decline starts, it's pretty much there.

True, but his receiver corps this season was one small step above You and I suiting up, so I don't think this year was proof of a decline. For only 2 years, he is a worthwhile gamble if you feel you can win a Superbowl with him.


Title: Re: Peter King: Jets Would Love to Have Rodgers
Post by: Dave Gray on January 24, 2023, 03:17:40 pm
For only 2 years, he is a worthwhile gamble if you feel you can win a Superbowl with him.

I agree with this.

But I don't feel the Jets are close enough, so it seems to me they are using up the talent they do have for 2 years before they go on another long-term QB search, and by then, that talent will be moving on.


Title: Re: Peter King: Jets Would Love to Have Rodgers
Post by: Sunstroke on January 24, 2023, 04:17:24 pm
I agree with this.

But I don't feel the Jets are close enough, so it seems to me they are using up the talent they do have for 2 years before they go on another long-term QB search, and by then, that talent will be moving on.

I partially disagree with you on this. The Jets have a quality defense already with a couple of legitimate all-star players (CB Sauce Gardner, LB CJ Mosley, DL Quinnen Williams), and a couple of outstanding rookie skill players on offense (WR Garrett Wilson, RB Breece Hall). If they add Rodgers, and make a couple of good choices in FA/Draft picks, I'm not so sure they are that far away from contention.

Just my $.02 anyway...



Title: Re: Peter King: Jets Would Love to Have Rodgers
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 24, 2023, 04:22:24 pm
I partially disagree with you on this. The Jets have a quality defense already with a couple of legitimate all-star players (CB Sauce Gardner, LB CJ Mosley, DL Quinnen Williams), and a couple of outstanding rookie skill players on offense (WR Garrett Wilson, RB Breece Hall). If they add Rodgers, and make a couple of good choices in FA/Draft picks, I'm not so sure they are that far away from contention.

Just my $.02 anyway...



Unfortunately, I agree with you. Opposing defenses worrying about Aaron Rodgers and a top notch RB? That creates problems and is attractive to free agents. Maybe they grab Gesicki and he goes for 900 yards next season, it would create a lot of problems for us. Easily the toughest division in the NFL.


Title: Re: Peter King: Jets Would Love to Have Rodgers
Post by: masterfins on January 25, 2023, 11:48:09 am
Rodgers is still a great QB, I just kind of question his willingness to work hard anymore.  The last couple years he just seems lackadaisical at the start of seasons.  The Packers have been benefitting from bad Bears teams, and until this year bad Lions teams.  Maybe a new team would reinvigorate him, then again maybe it would just be a paycheck to him.


Title: Re: Peter King: Jets Would Love to Have Rodgers
Post by: masterfins on January 25, 2023, 11:49:48 am
I partially disagree with you on this. The Jets have a quality defense already with a couple of legitimate all-star players (CB Sauce Gardner, LB CJ Mosley, DL Quinnen Williams), and a couple of outstanding rookie skill players on offense (WR Garrett Wilson, RB Breece Hall). If they add Rodgers, and make a couple of good choices in FA/Draft picks, I'm not so sure they are that far away from contention.

Just my $.02 anyway...



I was disappointed this year when a really good draft for the Jets, on paper, actually turned into a really good draft.


Title: Re: Peter King: Jets Would Love to Have Rodgers
Post by: Dave Gray on January 25, 2023, 12:23:58 pm
I feel a little bit like I'm taking crazy pills.  The 7-10 Jets are close?

I mean...they're bad.

If you want to take the Cowboys and think you can win with Rodgers over Prescott or something, fine.  But the Jets?  How many wins difference are we attributing to one player here?


Title: Re: Peter King: Jets Would Love to Have Rodgers
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 25, 2023, 12:51:40 pm
I feel a little bit like I'm taking crazy pills.  The 7-10 Jets are close?

I mean...they're bad.

If you want to take the Cowboys and think you can win with Rodgers over Prescott or something, fine.  But the Jets?  How many wins difference are we attributing to one player here?

I don't think the owner cares as much about winning as he does about being relevant.  Much like Favre and the hiring of Ryan, Rodgers will give him a fighting chance at beating out the Giants for top story on the back page of the Post and Daily News.


Title: Re: Peter King: Jets Would Love to Have Rodgers
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 25, 2023, 02:03:42 pm
Rodgers is still a great QB, I just kind of question his willingness to work hard anymore.  The last couple years he just seems lackadaisical at the start of seasons.  The Packers have been benefitting from bad Bears teams, and until this year bad Lions teams.  Maybe a new team would reinvigorate him, then again maybe it would just be a paycheck to him.

He has that Jay Cutler non-chalant attitude, but he won back to back MVP awards. He puts in the work, it just seems like he may not because of how he carries himself. Going to the Jets and winning a Superbowl would not only shove it in the faces of Green Bay ownership, but shows that he did what Brett Favre couldn't. I think he would be highly motivated.

Which again, would suck for us.


Title: Re: Peter King: Jets Would Love to Have Rodgers
Post by: Sunstroke on January 25, 2023, 07:38:24 pm
I feel a little bit like I'm taking crazy pills.  The 7-10 Jets are close?

I mean...they're bad.

You aren't taking crazy pills...you're just missing the obvious answer.

The Jets were 7-10 precisely because they had one of the worst QBs in the league. Trade that god-awful QB for a very-very good Aaron Rodgers, then give all that young ridiculous talent another year of seasoning, and they aren't anywhere near a 7-10 team.



Title: Re: Peter King: Jets Would Love to Have Rodgers
Post by: dolphins4life on January 25, 2023, 07:40:22 pm
With Aaron Rodgers running 50 million per year, can the Jets afford that?


Title: Re: Peter King: Jets Would Love to Have Rodgers
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 25, 2023, 07:47:54 pm
With Aaron Rodgers running 50 million per year, can the Jets afford that?

His cap shit is half that for the next 2 years, so it's very doable. They have a lot of cap room. They could become instant contenders in one offseason with Rodgers and their cap room.


Title: Re: Peter King: Jets Would Love to Have Rodgers
Post by: masterfins on January 25, 2023, 07:49:57 pm
I feel a little bit like I'm taking crazy pills.  The 7-10 Jets are close?

I mean...they're bad.

If you want to take the Cowboys and think you can win with Rodgers over Prescott or something, fine.  But the Jets?  How many wins difference are we attributing to one player here?

I wouldn't say they were "close", but I think they greatly improved this past year.  They were two games away from the playoffs this year, and if they had a quality QB they just might have been in the playoffs. That "bad" team beat Miami 40-17, and barely lost 11-6 in the second game.


Title: Re: Peter King: Jets Would Love to Have Rodgers
Post by: dolphins4life on January 25, 2023, 08:51:40 pm
His cap shit is half that for the next 2 years, so it's very doable. They have a lot of cap room. They could become instant contenders in one offseason with Rodgers and their cap room.

Is cap shit a typo or a real term?


Title: Re: Peter King: Jets Would Love to Have Rodgers
Post by: CF DolFan on January 26, 2023, 11:52:21 am
Jets just landed Nathaniel Hackett as offensive coordinator and rumors are they hope to lure Rodgers with him.


Title: Re: Peter King: Jets Would Love to Have Rodgers
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 26, 2023, 12:02:51 pm
Jets just landed Nathaniel Hackett as offensive coordinator and rumors are they hope to lure Rodgers with him.

Jets have the 13th overall pick. That's not too high where they wouldn't consider trading it away for Rodgers. Honestly, if he is traded, I think the Jets are the clear front runners. They would be built to win now, so expect lots of action in free agency. The salary cap is just numbers on paper if you know how to manipulate it, so don't be shocked if they add other high priced talent.


Title: Re: Peter King: Jets Would Love to Have Rodgers
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 26, 2023, 12:15:53 pm
Jets have the 13th overall pick. That's not too high where they wouldn't consider trading it away for Rodgers. Honestly, if he is traded, I think the Jets are the clear front runners. They would be built to win now, so expect lots of action in free agency. The salary cap is just numbers on paper if you know how to manipulate it, so don't be shocked if they add other high priced talent.

Or they could use the 13 pick to draft a long term solution at QB.


Title: Re: Peter King: Jets Would Love to Have Rodgers
Post by: CF DolFan on January 26, 2023, 12:58:59 pm
Or they could use the 13 pick to draft a long term solution at QB.
Best case there would be a project like Anthony Richardson. I liked him but felt he should have stayed another year at Florida. In the words of Joe Rose "he has some good games but on some days he looked like he didn't even know what a receiver was". hahaha


Title: Re: Peter King: Jets Would Love to Have Rodgers
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 26, 2023, 01:19:16 pm
Or they could use the 13 pick to draft a long term solution at QB.

There's really no one available that has "high potential", although being an understudy for Rodgers for 2 years is good learning experience. Then again, Zach Wilson is only entering his 3rd season, so trading for Aaron still seems like the best bet. Diffrent story if they had a Top 3 pick.


Title: Re: Peter King: Jets Would Love to Have Rodgers
Post by: Dave Gray on January 26, 2023, 01:52:59 pm
The one positive I think I can say for the Jets acquiring Rodgers  is that they're not likely missing out on a potential long-term choice.

They're a middle of the road team, but not the outright kind of trash that you'd expect to pull in an elite, young QB.  So, it does probably kick the can down the road a little bit, but Jets don't have "rock bottom" in sight.  They whiffed on Zack Wilson, so there's a price to pay for that pick, regardless.


Title: Re: Peter King: Jets Would Love to Have Rodgers
Post by: CF DolFan on January 26, 2023, 04:31:38 pm
They whiffed on Zack Wilson, so there's a price to pay for that pick, regardless.
Just like the price we are paying for Terron Armstead. We whiffed on several picks so we have to pay big money for a guy who is going to miss 4-5 games on average.