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Title: The Draft
Post by: dolphins4life on April 27, 2023, 02:55:44 pm
I want Miami to focus on the pass rush this draft.


Title: Re: The Draft
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on April 27, 2023, 03:03:25 pm
Vic Fangio and Jalen Ramsey is our defensive improvement for the offseason and that will veyr likely be enough. We are very likely going to focus on O-Line, TE and lots of rumors about us moving up to take the Alabama RB. I almost never want to take a RB in the 1st round but he's supposed to be one of those elite talents that kills it for 5 years before his body gives out and championship windows are usually small, so I would be fine with it.

EDIT: It's the Texas RB Bijan Robinson, not Alabama.


Title: Re: The Draft
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on April 27, 2023, 09:55:18 pm
I almost never want to take a RB in the 1st round but he's supposed to be one of those elite talents that kills it for 5 years before his body gives out and championship windows are usually small, so I would be fine with it.

EDIT: It's the Texas RB Bijan Robinson, not Alabama.

You can relax now, Atlanta got him with pick 8


Title: Re: The Draft
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on April 27, 2023, 10:16:28 pm
Patriots got Christian Gonzalez - that's a serious upgrade at CB to try and cover Hill & Waddle.


Title: Re: The Draft
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on April 27, 2023, 11:14:06 pm
The first TE on the board Dalton Kincaid finally went late in the first round... to the Bills.

If the alarm bells aren't ringing enough that we have to get better covering these guys, things are only gonna get worse.


Title: Re: The Draft
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on April 28, 2023, 12:18:09 am
End of round 1, and it's the usual suspects at QB, CB, OL, DL & EDGE and WR picked up, a single LB and TE for good measure.

We still have a long wait on day 2 ahead - there's a chance one of the other 4 top rated at the TE position may fall to us 20 picks in.

Like last year, it's really hard to get excited about this draft when we seem to be picking over the scraps of what's left again...


Title: Re: The Draft
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on April 28, 2023, 09:40:45 am
I saw one mock have us taking guard O’Cyrus Torrence with our first pick, and that he was the highest rated interior lineman.

It could be a good pickup if it means we move Hunt back out to RT, or alternatively plug the gap between Armstead and Williams on the left.


Title: Re: The Draft
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on April 28, 2023, 09:50:00 am
I saw one mock have us taking guard O’Cyrus Torrence with our first pick, and that he was the highest rated interior lineman.

It could be a good pickup if it means we move Hunt back out to RT, or alternatively plug the gap between Armstead and Williams on the left.

Sadly, Eichenberg is probably a lost cause so taking a LG with our first pick is fine by me. I just pray that we're not really serious about playing Austin Jackson at RT again. He quit on the team last season with history's worst non-surgical ankle injury and he isn't good when healthy. Not the guy you want covering the blind spot of a QB who had multiple concussions.


Title: Re: The Draft
Post by: Pappy13 on April 28, 2023, 10:05:46 am
I personally don't understand the fascination that so many have with the TE position. Seems like the Dolphins made it abundtantly clear last year that a TE really isn't a priority in this offense. Now before you jump me and say a blocking TE is well I think we already have a couple of those and we already have plenty of other players that can catch and run, I just don't see the need for another TE. There are way too many other positions of need to go after a TE in the 2nd round in my opinion.


Title: Re: The Draft
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on April 28, 2023, 11:05:55 am
I personally don't understand the fascination that so many have with the TE position. Seems like the Dolphins made it abundtantly clear last year that a TE really isn't a priority in this offense. Now before you jump me and say a blocking TE is well I think we already have a couple of those and we already have plenty of other players that can catch and run, I just don't see the need for another TE. There are way too many other positions of need to go after a TE in the 2nd round in my opinion.

Agreed, however if the best TE available to us fits the sceme perfectly whereas the best OG or RT available to us doesn't or is overrated, then I would take the TE. We have lots of talent, so we don't need to reach. Even for positions of need. We can address those issues via trades.


Title: Re: The Draft
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on April 28, 2023, 01:13:23 pm
I personally don't understand the fascination that so many have with the TE position. Seems like the Dolphins made it abundtantly clear last year that a TE really isn't a priority in this offense. Now before you jump me and say a blocking TE is well I think we already have a couple of those and we already have plenty of other players that can catch and run, I just don't see the need for another TE. There are way too many other positions of need to go after a TE in the 2nd round in my opinion.

Personally I love the TE position.  More so than any other position a top tier TE can create dilemmas for the opposing team.   


Title: Re: The Draft
Post by: Dolfanalyst on April 28, 2023, 01:33:39 pm
Darnell Washington, the TE from Georgia, in round 2 would be great.  Functions in essence as an additional offensive lineman when lined up inline, and can also be a big target down the middle at 6 foot 7, 264 pounds.


Title: Re: The Draft
Post by: CF DolFan on April 28, 2023, 02:37:34 pm
I would think we'd go TE but at this point I'm going to trust McDaniel as he knows more of what would help him. I can't see us going defensive but I wouldn't be shocked if we did.


Title: Re: The Draft
Post by: CF DolFan on April 28, 2023, 08:44:27 pm
Dolphins draft a CB? WTF??? Might as well have drafted another wide receiver as we don’t need any more of them either for this season.


Title: Re: The Draft
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on April 28, 2023, 09:58:48 pm
Dolphins draft a CB? WTF??? Might as well have drafted another wide receiver as we don’t need any more of them either for this season.

Was he really the best player on the board? I know that Xavien isn't the healthiest but we can't go into this season expecting to use our 7th stringers again. I would've preferred the Guard that the Bills got, but I'm not familiar with what O-Line scheme we run.


Title: Re: The Draft
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on April 28, 2023, 10:35:07 pm
We drafted RB Devon Achane. Small guy but one of the fastest players in the whole draft. He can catch passes too so looks like we have a very solid RB group now.

Still, have to do something about RT.


Title: Re: The Draft
Post by: Sunstroke on April 28, 2023, 10:59:43 pm
Darnell Washington, the TE from Georgia, in round 2 would be great.  Functions in essence as an additional offensive lineman when lined up inline, and can also be a big target down the middle at 6 foot 7, 264 pounds.

I was right there with ya... Darnell was my favorite of this deep TE class. Pittsburgh just selected him in round 3 a few minutes ago.





Title: Re: The Draft
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on April 29, 2023, 03:10:02 am
Not hugely surprised at CB as our first pick - and I nailed it that Porter Jr went to the Steelers first up on day 2!

Now that Rodgers is also in our division, the AFC has become an arms race of accumulating WR and CBs to cover them.

X and Ramsey are top notch, but who knows how long they will keep playing at that level? Depth there is always handy... although it is also a sign that Noah can perhaps stamp his papers. After doing this I'd be very surprised if we bother with his option.  


Title: Re: The Draft
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on April 29, 2023, 06:46:50 am
Not hugely surprised at CB as our first pick - and I nailed it that Porter Jr went to the Steelers first up!

Now that Rodgers is also in our division, the AFC has become an arms race of accumulating WR and CBs to cover them.

X and Ramsey are top notch, but who knows how long they will keep playing at that level? Depth there is always handy... although it is also a sign that Noah can perhaps stamp his papers. After doing this I'd be very surprised if we bother with his option.   

Oh, the options for Austin and Noah are going to be used as scrap paper for a child to color on. There is 0% chance either of them get picked up. Noah couldn't find the field last year after the whole roster went down and Jackson refused to play. They're both done after next season.


Title: Re: The Draft
Post by: Denver on April 29, 2023, 08:34:35 am
Hey guys.

I was kind of perplexed with the first pick but it’s solid, he’s a good player with lots of potential and should be able to step in when X or Ramsey retire or a lose a step.

Achane is a great pick and we gotta be one of the fastest teams in history. We’re going to be very difficult to cover.

Considering so few picks I think we did great.


Title: Re: The Draft
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on April 29, 2023, 11:02:26 am
Hey guys.

I was kind of perplexed with the first pick but it’s solid, he’s a good player with lots of potential and should be able to step in when X or Ramsey retire or a lose a step.

Achane is a great pick and we gotta be one of the fastest teams in history. We’re going to be very difficult to cover.

Considering so few picks I think we did great.

Yeah, talent wise I don't think we can complain about them, it's just a concern that we didn't address the O-Line in early free agency or the draft so far. It is by far our biggest weakness and having Jackson be our plan for RT from the start of the offseason would be very perplexing.


Title: Re: The Draft
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on April 29, 2023, 11:19:16 am
This is really what our draft looks like so far:

Round 1: DE Bradley Chubb (trade from Broncos)
Round 1: Ross asking Brady to be his BFF (Forfeited)
Round 2: CB Cam Smith
Round 3: CB Jalen Ramsey (trade from Rams)
Round 3: RB Devon Achane


Title: Re: The Draft
Post by: Pappy13 on April 29, 2023, 05:08:17 pm
Dolphins draft a CB? WTF??? Might as well have drafted another wide receiver as we don’t need any more of them either for this season.
Your wish is granted. I saw a quote from Grier that basically said TE and offensive line were not a concern. If you were expecting the Dolphins to draft them, you're going to be disappointed. And for those saying he's a TE, no he's a WR that can block. Not the same thing.


Title: Re: The Draft
Post by: Denver on April 30, 2023, 04:09:40 pm
Last picks seems a bit weird but with where it came at I’m not worried about it and overall I’m pretty satisfied with the draft especially with what we had.

We have a good CB in the near future and we have a RB who I think is going to play a nice little role in the offense as the season goes on.



Title: Re: The Draft
Post by: Denver on April 30, 2023, 04:11:42 pm
Yeah, talent wise I don't think we can complain about them, it's just a concern that we didn't address the O-Line in early free agency or the draft so far. It is by far our biggest weakness and having Jackson be our plan for RT from the start of the offseason would be very perplexing.

Yeah line always seems like a problem every year. All I can hope is that they didn’t see anyone on the draft that would be better on the line.


Title: Re: The Draft
Post by: CF DolFan on May 02, 2023, 08:59:26 am
Joe Rose or someone on his show yesterday said that the Dolphins have had the least amount of picks over a 2 year history in the history of the NFL. We had 8 over two years. Either way some of these guys need to contribute and we do not have a great history of that.

For whatever reason we keep trying to make a receiver our TE. Not sure how it will work out this time but we've tried that several times now including last year's Tanner Conner who is faster.


Title: Re: The Draft
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on May 02, 2023, 09:56:53 am
Joe Rose or someone on his show yesterday said that the Dolphins have had the least amount of picks over a 2 year history in the history of the NFL. We had 8 over two years. Either way some of these guys need to contribute and we do not have a great history of that.

For whatever reason we keep trying to make a receiver our TE. Not sure how it will work out this time but we've tried that several times now including last year's Tanner Conner who is faster.

We cashed them in for star players and of course had to forfeit one due to stupidity. I'm fine with that when building a contender but it catches up to you eventually so I feel like this is our last year doing it. Of course, we don't have a 3rd or 4th rounder next year either. 3rd was forfeited for tampering and the 4th was part of the Chubb trade.

Our window is now so I am fine with going all in and kinda throwing caution to the wind for the future cap issues.


Title: Re: The Draft
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on May 02, 2023, 08:52:45 pm
FWIW, looks like McDaniel lobbied hard for Devon Achane. He loves his speed and thinks he can be used all over. Looks like he will be used a lot by us the next few years......until it's time for him to get paid and then we don't and no one else does because running backs don't get anything any more.


Title: Re: The Draft
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on May 03, 2023, 03:32:33 am
The UDFA signings have already started.

Aubrey Miller looks a lively type at LB - it sounds like he had a great Senior Bowl, and he he manages to be part of a solution to one of our biggest pains in the ass I'm all for it.