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 on: Today at 02:20:26 pm 
Started by Spider-Dan - Last post by Spider-Dan
Just let people come here and stay regardless of anything else, just as long as they say that they want asylum.
Provided that their application for asylum is accepted, yes, that is what the law directs.  You are a big fan of following the law elsewhere, so I'd think you should be in favor of this.

I find it bizarre that the "limited government" crowd seems to believe that in the case of illegal immigration - a federal misdemeanor, not unlike depicting Smokey The Bear without official authorization - suspects should be treated like violent felons and treated as harshly as possible.  If you think illegal immigration should be changed to some sort of superfelony, then you should advocate for the law to be changed to reflect that.  But the current law (in a nation of immigrants) treats backdoor immigration from people who just want to live here peacefully and make a life for themselves as a minor offense, not the dire threat to the republic that you consider it.

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 on: Today at 01:27:24 pm 
Started by CF DolFan - Last post by MyGodWearsAHoodie
What about the STILL missing 25? As usual, giving Trump credit for a half completed job.  Evil

You might want to check the math on that ..... closer to 2/3.  😀

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 on: Today at 12:50:16 pm 
Started by Spider-Dan - Last post by pondwater

False.  There is no part of currently existing law that mandates that immigrant children must be separated from their parents for the prosecution of a misdemeanor crime (which makes sense, since both parent and child would be allegedly committing the same crime); in fact, there is no requirement that even the parents be held in custody for a misdemeanor offense in the first place.  This was a choice by the Trump Administration, and Jeff Sessions said it was specifically to deter immigration.

I wouldn't hold your breath on this actually ending the separation of children from their parents, though.  There is an existing consent decree that says that immigrant children may not be held in detention for longer than 20 days, so after 20 days the government is required to release the children from custody.  Three guesses as to what happens to the families then.

In other words, Trump's "solution" to this problem appears to be cleverly engineered to create an excuse for him to keep the toddler concentration camps detention centers open as the issue winds its way through the courts.
So basically what you're saying is that open borders are OK with you. Just let people come here and stay regardless of anything else, just as long as they say that they want asylum. Please enlighten everyone on what you guys really want. Because to me it seems to change depending on whether a R or D is in the White House.

 4 
 on: Today at 12:49:13 pm 
Started by CF DolFan - Last post by Pappy13
What about the STILL missing 25? As usual, giving Trump credit for a half completed job.  Evil

 5 
 on: Today at 11:17:01 am 
Started by CF DolFan - Last post by Sunstroke

Congratulations to Trump for allowing the Sun to come up this morning, for allowing me to take a proper dump before going to work, and for the air I breathed on my commute.

I'm pretty sure Trump has already congratulated himself for all these things though...

On topic...nice to see local law enforcement catching the bad guys!



 6 
 on: Today at 10:14:09 am 
Started by CF DolFan - Last post by Cathal
lol CF. I bet you give Trump credit for ending the separation of immigrant children from their parents with the executive order. He creates a problem, blames dems, signs executive order, and declares that he fixed it. Man, to live in your world.

 7 
 on: Today at 09:08:38 am 
Started by DaLittle B - Last post by Sunstroke

Yo, mutherfukker!

j/k..."excuse me, ..." is the norm




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 on: Today at 09:01:41 am 
Started by DaLittle B - Last post by BigDaddyFin
Excuse me sir/ma'am, insert request or question here.  Thank you.

 9 
 on: June 20, 2018, 07:38:55 pm 
Started by Spider-Dan - Last post by Spider-Dan
I don't want to come across as defending the policy but from what I understand, the detainees are committing a crime because they are not coming to authorized points of entry. It is hard to apply for asylum when you are trying to avoid legal entry to start the process.



If someone breaks the law they have to be arrested and cannot be with their kids.
False.  There is no part of currently existing law that mandates that immigrant children must be separated from their parents for the prosecution of a misdemeanor crime (which makes sense, since both parent and child would be allegedly committing the same crime); in fact, there is no requirement that even the parents be held in custody for a misdemeanor offense in the first place.  This was a choice by the Trump Administration, and Jeff Sessions said it was specifically to deter immigration.

I wouldn't hold your breath on this actually ending the separation of children from their parents, though.  There is an existing consent decree that says that immigrant children may not be held in detention for longer than 20 days, so after 20 days the government is required to release the children from custody.  Three guesses as to what happens to the families then.

In other words, Trump's "solution" to this problem appears to be cleverly engineered to create an excuse for him to keep the toddler concentration camps detention centers open as the issue winds its way through the courts.

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 on: June 20, 2018, 07:23:24 pm 
Started by DaLittle B - Last post by Phishfan
Just excuse me followed with thank you sir if a man or just thank you if a woman.

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