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 on: Today at 06:54:39 pm 
Started by CF DolFan - Last post by Spider-Dan
It would be one thing if Israel's actions were only targeting Hamas, but they aren't.  They are targeting hundreds of thousands of Palestinians who have nothing to do with Hamas.  That's the problem.

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 on: Today at 05:45:10 pm 
Started by CF DolFan - Last post by MyGodWearsAHoodie
Would you actually approve of Israel engaging in a proportional response?

Because a proportional response would include things such as Israel kidnapping random women raping them and then dragging their dead bodies through the streets of Tel Aviv while Israeli cheered and spit on their dead bodies and burning people alive.

Before suggesting that Israel’s responded ought be proportional realize that what you are demanding Israel engage in the same heinous acts Hamas engaged in.  Because that is the only way to be proportional. 

What Israel is doing instead is rooting out Hamas and unfortunately civilians are suffering too.  But Hamas could end the suffering of civilians at any time.  The same way Keitel eventually ended the German peoples suffering on May 8, 1945.
 

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 on: Today at 04:33:52 pm 
Started by CF DolFan - Last post by CF DolFan

But it's fair to criticize Israel for a non-proportional response without jumping ship to support terrorists.

This is where you and I disagree. I don't know how anyone can tell a country whose kids were attacked, raped, killed, and continues to be hostages how they can respond. Then they follow that up with over 300 missiles being shot at them. It's kind of like the kid who suckered punched you and broke your nose and then dictating how you are allowed to respond.

Everyone knows Hamas uses the Palestinians as shields and yet Palestinians support them instead of ratting them out so "innocents" end up dying.  Even Democrats like Fetterman have said as much. It sucks but when a people care more about wiping you out than they do their own people it's a no win situation until you force your hand.  

You gotta admit seeing the LGTBQ people supporting Palestine and Hamas is downright funny though. 

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 on: Today at 03:56:05 pm 
Started by Dave Gray - Last post by Dave Gray
One thing that really struck me as odd was that these seceeded rebel alliances had all the military firepower in the world.  They had dozens of Chinook-type helicopters, tanks, Humvees... if you were cut off from the union and had to form your own military, it seems like you wouldn't have access to the multi-billion-dollar US military budget and equipment.  But what do I know?

I would think that if Texas seceded, any military bases in their territory would de facto become successionist bases.  Definitely their equipment, but maybe even their leadership.

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 on: Today at 03:06:15 pm 
Started by CF DolFan - Last post by MyGodWearsAHoodie
I saw where 28 Google employees had a sit-in in the CEO's office and refused to leave until google rescinded a 1.2 billion dollar contract with israel.

Just stupid, they were removed and fired. Companies have no morals. That CEO would shoot his own mother in the head for 1.2 billion dollars.


Hard pressed to think of many settings were someone could refuse to work and rather had a sit in in the ceos office and not get fired. 

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 on: Today at 02:49:12 pm 
Started by CF DolFan - Last post by Fau Teixeira
I saw where 28 Google employees had a sit-in in the CEO's office and refused to leave until google rescinded a 1.2 billion dollar contract with israel.

Just stupid, they were removed and fired. Companies have no morals. That CEO would shoot his own mother in the head for 1.2 billion dollars.

The college student liberal types are finding out that regardless of political party, nobody is going to take the palestinian side over israel. This disillusionment makes them ripe for propaganda. They have no recourse in the US, if the Dems aren't going to pander to them (and they aren't) what are they going to do ? Run to the republicans? They want israel to wipe gaza off the map. So all that's left to them is to protest. (which btw, them protesting the party that is at least calling for moderation is the tops of irony)

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 on: Today at 12:41:07 pm 
Started by Dave Gray - Last post by Brian Fein
I really wanted to see this movie, based solely on the trailer.  I was expecting the story would be told by the journalists, and that story would be about the fictitious conflict, its causes and resolution.  But it wasn't that, at all.  

The conflict was a background character.  An extra.  It was the obstacle to progress, but it wasn't front and center.  They didn't tell you what it was about or even WHEN the movie was taking place.  They dropped tiny nuggets of facts in passing, like photographing the "Antifa Massacre" - another fictitious event that has clearly driven political suggestion but no link to the current conflict.  States seceded from the union, formed smaller alliances, and the "President" was trying to keep it at bay.

One thing that really struck me as odd was that these seceeded rebel alliances had all the military firepower in the world.  They had dozens of Chinook-type helicopters, tanks, Humvees... if you were cut off from the union and had to form your own military, it seems like you wouldn't have access to the multi-billion-dollar US military budget and equipment.  But what do I know?

I liked the movie enough, but it was really not what I was expecting.

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 on: Today at 12:23:34 pm 
Started by Dave Gray - Last post by Dave Gray
Civil War (2024)

Premise: In a politically fictionalized modern-day America at war with itself, a van full of journalists brave the treacherous path to Washington D.C., in hope of landing an interview with a surrounded President.

Rating: A great film, but maybe not the one that you're expecting.

This movie is intense and bleak and pretty dour.  Imagine iconic imagery from films like Independence Day (1996) involving monuments like the Washington Monument and White House, expect with the tone of what you'd see on 60 minutes from war journalists on the ground in Iraq.  It's eerie.

The elephant in the room, though, is the movie's politics.  It is definitely political, but it is most certainly not partisan.  In fact, it goes out of its way to make itself unmappable to the modern era's right vs. left conflict.  A small example is that one of the secession alliances is Texas and California.  But more than that is that, for a movie called Civil War, it isn't really about a civil war.  The film takes place through the eyes of war journalists, just trying to report and get truth out there, and are trying not to make themselves part of the story.  The movie makes a point that, to those on the ground, it doesn't even matter what you're fighting about; once the person across from you is trying to shoot at you, you have to shoot back at them.

There are little hints at causes.  You hear on a TV broadcast that the president is in "his 3rd term" and there are little glimpses at the divide by the way that various soldiers act, but nothing that you can directly map or that is issue-based.  Also, I think it's fair to say that both sides are doing bad things and it's the war, itself, that is the villain.

But the movie isn't about any of that.  It's about the importance and the celebration of journalism.

The structure of the film is a road trip and each segment serves as a little vignette.  Each of them have something to say.   Some show the apathy of parts of the country, some show the intense gore in the fighting, others show the fear and unrest caused by a police state or a outside (or in this case, inside) occupation.  While the latter half is action packed, the movie does take its time and a lot of it is just reflection on the choices and risks that journalists take to get their story, yet the runtime is relatively short.

All of the cast is great, but there's a standout minor role from Jesse Plemmons, who plays a soldier at a roadside stop.  It's a chilling performance.

I loved it, but I realize that it speaks directly to a tone I like.  You may find it too disturbing or upsetting, as it doesn't have a traditional plot narrative where you're looking for good guys to overcome bad guys and it is a cynical take on America.

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 on: Today at 11:09:30 am 
Started by CF DolFan - Last post by Dave Gray
Here to revisit this again.

I see a disturbing trend among the college-student liberal types, which is moved away from simply not supporting Israel's ongoing aggression (which is logical) to now actively supporting the opposition, be it Hamas or Iran, which, to me, is fucking crazy.  We can't get our eye off the ball, here.  Netanyahu sucks, is a right-wing crook, and is probably making poor strategic and unstabilizing military moves because it will save his skin, politically.

However....

It's still better for the US if Israel comes out on top.  They're still a Western Democracy.

Again, nuace...  But it's fair to criticize Israel for a non-proportional response without jumping ship to support terrorists.

Also, a lot of the people who are the most vocal for support of Gaza, sometimes going so far to defend Hamas and Iran, is that they seem to want a two state solution before aid to Israel.  But THEY DON'T WANT a two-state solution in these Muslim countries.  They want Israel gone.  That's the crux of a lot of this issue.  It's a land dispute and so long as Israel exists, these places aren't going to be chill.  In the US, we need to strive to return Iran to the more progressive direction it was heading prior to the 1980s and that means beating back this religious zealot leadership in all of these nations.

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 on: April 15, 2024, 08:07:36 pm 
Started by dolphins4life - Last post by Spider-Dan
I keep my mask on at my healthcare job.  I do it because I actually enjoy wearing one.  I think it looks cool.  I got a cold a while ago.  Soon after, a couple of my coworkers got sick, even though I kept my mask on throughout.  Granted, it may have slipped off my Pinocchio nose during the course of the day, but I did wear it.  This is evidence that masks do not stop the spread of respiratory viruses.
Your coworkers could have gotten sick from one of the dozens of other people they interface with on a daily basis.

This is not evidence of anything.

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