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In the good old days thread Dave as much said his children would not be affected by the outlawing of abortion. He now has a complete turnaround on that position. Nothing about pro choice or pro life. He basically said his family is of means and they could get around the law. Now he has concerns about the law possibly forcing his family in to an unwanted pregnancy.

I think in the pre-MAGA era, many centrists (and even some liberals) thought that an overturned Roe would put us back in the pre-Roe status quo ante.  But new innovations like the TX SB8 tattletale law have made it clear that this will be FAR worse than 1972.  You might have the means to afford an abortion, but when you return home, you'll find a court case waiting for you.

When did Dave ever take that approch?  IIRC He has always been adamantly pro-choice.

He is. You must misunderstand me. In the good old days thread Dave as much said his children would not be affected by the outlawing of abortion. He now has a complete turnaround on that position. Nothing about pro choice or pro life. He basically said his family is of means and they could get around the law. Now he has concerns about the law possibly forcing his family in to an unwanted pregnancy.

I don’t think that you can call any of the judges rapists, unless they actually did the raping. I know what you’re trying to say, and do, by making the claim, but it’s not very effective, or well thought out. Just inflammatory and instigating. And a touch dramatic. If  someone isn’t pro choice then they’re rapists too.

I believe Hill and Ford.  And I don't believe their rapists should be deciding the limits of a woman's bodily autonomy.

I don’t think that you can call any of the judges rapists, unless they actually did the raping. I know what you’re trying to say, and do, by making the claim, but it’s not very effective, or well thought out. Just inflammatory and instigating. And a touch dramatic. If  someone isn’t pro choice then they’re rapists too.

The bigger issue here is that a 10 year girl has been raped. I’d like to meet the guy that did this. I also didn’t think that  it was possible for a 10 year old to get pregnant. And yeah, case in point that there is a gray area with abortion and should be an alternative in situations such as this. Who raped this little girl? I read the piece a couple of times to see if I missed something but I swear I didn’t see anything about the guy responsible.

Raping a ten year old is illegal. The rapist is a criminal. That isn't the bigger issue and it is hardly something knew.  The bigger issue is can a doctor assist her without being a criminal.  It should be noted that two of the S.Ct justices that voted to deny this rape victim assistance have credible accusations of being rapist themselves.

The bigger issue here is that a 10 year girl has been raped. I’d like to meet the guy that did this. I also didn’t think that  it was possible for a 10 year old to get pregnant. And yeah, case in point that there is a gray area with abortion and should be an alternative in situations such as this. Who raped this little girl? I read the piece a couple of times to see if I missed something but I swear I didn’t see anything about the guy responsible.

Quite a change of attitude from your I got mines quote when you were saying outlawing abortion would not affect your family.

When did Dave ever take that approch?  IIRC He has always been adamantly pro-choice.

The idea that my daughter gets raped in middle school and I have to be a grandpa by decree of the state is an idea that's so fucking absurd.  I can't anymore with these fools.

Quite a change of attitude from your I got mines quote when you were saying outlawing abortion would not affect your family.

The idea that my daughter gets raped in middle school and I have to be a grandpa by decree of the state is an idea that's so fucking absurd.  I can't anymore with these fools.

GOP Mission accomplished:

https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/2022/07/01/ohio-girl-10-among-patients-going-indiana-abortion/7788415001/