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This doesn't make mathematical sense.

If it's a 90.89% win to kick, then it would be a 94.39% to go for it.  Higher percentage is higher percentage.  "It's not worth the risk" doesn't make sense, in a vacuum, at least.

To Spider's point, there are things like scapegoats and optics, so maybe you kick for that reason.  But in general, you take the likelier chance of success when given the choice.

Percentages don't mean shit to me.   Logic does.  And in this case, logic dictates that you don't take points off the board.   If your defense is playing well, you take whatever lead you can get.

[one locker room celebration]

This entire thread is about one locker room celebration, yet you're trying to complain about "small sample sizes."

No, the thread is about how team culture can determine how NFL teams function, and how the Dolphins' current culture follows from its head coach's personality, which isn't compatible with the serious and aggressive nature of football.  The particular locker room celebration in the original post is simply illustrative of that, and there is another team's locker room celebration provided in the original post for the purpose of contrast.

Here are two former players weighing in on the matter in similar fashion:

https://x.com/FinsXtra/status/1979955001868042597?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1979955001868042597%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=

https://x.com/DavidFurones_/status/1980791927692788166?s=20

Again the issue is that McDaniel is a clown and not a leader of men.  That creates a team culture for the Dolphins -- i.e., "the team takes on the personality of its coach."  That culture -- or that team "personality" -- isn't compatible with winning at a high level in professional football.  It simply isn't consistent with the nature of the game.

That's what the thread is about.  Far more than a single locker room celebration.

[increase]

A 3.5% increase in winning is an extremely small increase and not worth the risk.  I used a probability calculator with a 3 point lead, 2 minutes left, with the opponent starting on the 30 yard line (no option to enter available TO's).  The result is a win 90.89% of the time.

This doesn't make mathematical sense.

If it's a 90.89% win to kick, then it would be a 94.39% to go for it.  Higher percentage is higher percentage.  "It's not worth the risk" doesn't make sense, in a vacuum, at least.

To Spider's point, there are things like scapegoats and optics, so maybe you kick for that reason.  But in general, you take the likelier chance of success when given the choice.

Whether we call it "pedophilia" or "technically, it's ephebophilia," we are still talking about child sex trafficking.

No question. I hope everyone involved regardless of who it is gets locked up. Not holding my breath, though.

[one locker room celebration]

Again are you still stuck here, using incredibly small samples of performance to measure overall head coaching success?

This entire thread is about one locker room celebration, yet you're trying to complain about "small sample sizes."

Whether we call it "pedophilia" or "technically, it's ephebophilia," we are still talking about child sex trafficking.

Direct quotes:So we can tell their "personality" by how they celebrate wins, and their personality "isn't consistent with winning."
You are drawing a direct line between celebrations and culture, and an equally direct line between culture and winning.
To say "A = B" and "B = C" is to say "A = C."

No that isn't the case.  How single wins are celebrated isn't always indicative of a team's culture.  In the case of the particular celebrations in the original post here, however, they are in my opinion.  The Dolphins' current culture is silly and clownish, and the Steelers' culture in 2006 was serious and aggressive.  If either team happened to celebrate a single win in a different fashion, their team cultures would nonetheless persist.

In other words, locker room celebrations can vary for a team, whereas its culture does not.  The locker room celebrations in the original post were merely for illustrative purposes -- they show those teams' cultures in vivid fashion.  Again in my opinion.

An analogy:  every team varies in how well it plays single games.  How good teams are overall persists, however.  The Dolphins just beat Buffalo 30-13.  Is that an indication of how good they are and how poor Buffalo is?  Of course not.  It was merely single-game variation.  And single game locker room celebrations can similarly vary.

]However, a take like this rings somewhat hollow if you disappear when this logic can be used against you; to take a random example, if there were a coach that you criticized as being "unserious" who was sitting at 9-3 in the #1 seed entering week 14.

Being the #1 seed at 9-3 isn't a valid and reliable criterion for success overall as a head coach in the NFL.  There are numerious head coaches in NFL history who accomplished similar feats and who were then fired without ever accomplishing anything extraordinary in the league.

Again are you still stuck here, using incredibly small samples of performance to measure overall head coaching success?  Have you not yet learned anything in that regard?

[completely illegal]

As Hoodie pointed out, the cult is already preparing to accept Trump's sexual abuse of trafficked children; Megyn Kelly is currently claiming that 15-year-olds are "the barely legal type" when, in fact, 15-year-old are completely illegal for adult men to have sex with... to say nothing of trafficked underage girls being pimped out to men they barely know.

15-year-old children are completely unable to legally consent to a sexual relationship with any adult in every state (with the exception of "close-age-relationships" in some states).

This is one of those topics where the internet is the absolute worst place to try and inject some sense of reason. It's also one of those topics where the word at the center of it has come to mean something else to a lot of people. Pedophiles are, by definition, attracted to *prepubescent* children. Someone attracted to 15-year-olds is not a pedophile (on that basis). Having a sexual relationship with someone that young, however, does make you a rapist.

Nowhere in the thread have I said "how a team celebrates wins, in and of itself, causes subsequent winning or losing."

Direct quotes:

The nature of the locker room celebration itself isn't a causative factor in anything.  It's the team culture it reflects that's causative in winning and losing.  Locker room celebrations in themselves don't cause winning and losing -- team cultures do, however.  These locker room celebrations are simply reflections of their teams' cultures.

The problem is that the 2025 Miami Dolphins' "personality" isn't consistent with winning at a high level in the NFL, where seriousness, drive, determination, and aggression are what wins on the field in the rough and tumble game of football.

So we can tell their "personality" by how they celebrate wins, and their personality "isn't consistent with winning."
You are drawing a direct line between celebrations and culture, and an equally direct line between culture and winning.
To say "A = B" and "B = C" is to say "A = C."

Moreover, the Rams are 8-2.  The Dolphins in the video in the original post were 3-7.  Even if there were some silliness going on in the locker room on the Rams' part, it would've been occurring in a completely different context in terms of how the team has performed overall.  There should be no such silliness on the part of a team at 3-7 that should be functioning with dead set seriousness on turning its season around.  Silliness in that context is an indication of team culture dysfunction.

And finally, we arrive at "Scoreboard."

This would all be a lot easier if you just said "Winning teams are good and smart, while losing teams are bad and dumb."  And that's a completely defensible take!  It's childishly obvious and simplistic, but at least it's an ethos.  However, a take like this rings somewhat hollow if you disappear when this logic can be used against you; to take a random example, if there were a coach that you criticized as being "unserious" who was sitting at 9-3 in the #1 seed entering week 14.

[completely illegal]

Dude you didn't care that the country was being led by an obvious senile old man so don't pretend to have morals now.

Your guy said we should inject disinfectant to fight COVID before you voted for him two more times, so don't pretend to care about senility now.

As Hoodie pointed out, the cult is already preparing to accept Trump's sexual abuse of trafficked children; Megyn Kelly is currently claiming that 15-year-olds are "the barely legal type" when, in fact, 15-year-old are completely illegal for adult men to have sex with... to say nothing of trafficked underage girls being pimped out to men they barely know.

But yeah, let's see these same liars go purchase more tickets to Sound of Freedom and scream about child sex traffickers.  The only reason they even pretended to care about sex trafficking is because they thought it was something they could attack Democrats with.