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Direct quotes:So we can tell their "personality" by how they celebrate wins, and their personality "isn't consistent with winning."
You are drawing a direct line between celebrations and culture, and an equally direct line between culture and winning.
To say "A = B" and "B = C" is to say "A = C."

No that isn't the case.  How single wins are celebrated isn't always indicative of a team's culture.  In the case of the particular celebrations in the original post here, however, they are in my opinion.  The Dolphins' current culture is silly and clownish, and the Steelers' culture in 2006 was serious and aggressive.  If either team happened to celebrate a single win in a different fashion, their team cultures would nonetheless persist.

In other words, locker room celebrations can vary for a team, whereas its culture does not.  The locker room celebrations in the original post were merely for illustrative purposes -- they show those teams' cultures in vivid fashion.  Again in my opinion.

An analogy:  every team varies in how well it plays single games.  How good teams are overall persists, however.  The Dolphins just beat Buffalo 30-13.  Is that an indication of how good they are and how poor Buffalo is?  Of course not.  It was merely single-game variation.  And single game locker room celebrations can similarly vary.

]However, a take like this rings somewhat hollow if you disappear when this logic can be used against you; to take a random example, if there were a coach that you criticized as being "unserious" who was sitting at 9-3 in the #1 seed entering week 14.

Being the #1 seed at 9-3 isn't a valid and reliable criterion for success overall as a head coach in the NFL.  There are numerious head coaches in NFL history who accomplished similar feats and who were then fired without ever accomplishing anything extraordinary in the league.

Again are you still stuck here, using incredibly small samples of performance to measure overall head coaching success?  Have you not yet learned anything in that regard?

[completely illegal]

As Hoodie pointed out, the cult is already preparing to accept Trump's sexual abuse of trafficked children; Megyn Kelly is currently claiming that 15-year-olds are "the barely legal type" when, in fact, 15-year-old are completely illegal for adult men to have sex with... to say nothing of trafficked underage girls being pimped out to men they barely know.

15-year-old children are completely unable to legally consent to a sexual relationship with any adult in every state (with the exception of "close-age-relationships" in some states).

This is one of those topics where the internet is the absolute worst place to try and inject some sense of reason. It's also one of those topics where the word at the center of it has come to mean something else to a lot of people. Pedophiles are, by definition, attracted to *prepubescent* children. Someone attracted to 15-year-olds is not a pedophile (on that basis). Having a sexual relationship with someone that young, however, does make you a rapist.

Nowhere in the thread have I said "how a team celebrates wins, in and of itself, causes subsequent winning or losing."

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The nature of the locker room celebration itself isn't a causative factor in anything.  It's the team culture it reflects that's causative in winning and losing.  Locker room celebrations in themselves don't cause winning and losing -- team cultures do, however.  These locker room celebrations are simply reflections of their teams' cultures.

The problem is that the 2025 Miami Dolphins' "personality" isn't consistent with winning at a high level in the NFL, where seriousness, drive, determination, and aggression are what wins on the field in the rough and tumble game of football.

So we can tell their "personality" by how they celebrate wins, and their personality "isn't consistent with winning."
You are drawing a direct line between celebrations and culture, and an equally direct line between culture and winning.
To say "A = B" and "B = C" is to say "A = C."

Moreover, the Rams are 8-2.  The Dolphins in the video in the original post were 3-7.  Even if there were some silliness going on in the locker room on the Rams' part, it would've been occurring in a completely different context in terms of how the team has performed overall.  There should be no such silliness on the part of a team at 3-7 that should be functioning with dead set seriousness on turning its season around.  Silliness in that context is an indication of team culture dysfunction.

And finally, we arrive at "Scoreboard."

This would all be a lot easier if you just said "Winning teams are good and smart, while losing teams are bad and dumb."  And that's a completely defensible take!  It's childishly obvious and simplistic, but at least it's an ethos.  However, a take like this rings somewhat hollow if you disappear when this logic can be used against you; to take a random example, if there were a coach that you criticized as being "unserious" who was sitting at 9-3 in the #1 seed entering week 14.

[completely illegal]

Dude you didn't care that the country was being led by an obvious senile old man so don't pretend to have morals now.

Your guy said we should inject disinfectant to fight COVID before you voted for him two more times, so don't pretend to care about senility now.

As Hoodie pointed out, the cult is already preparing to accept Trump's sexual abuse of trafficked children; Megyn Kelly is currently claiming that 15-year-olds are "the barely legal type" when, in fact, 15-year-old are completely illegal for adult men to have sex with... to say nothing of trafficked underage girls being pimped out to men they barely know.

But yeah, let's see these same liars go purchase more tickets to Sound of Freedom and scream about child sex traffickers.  The only reason they even pretended to care about sex trafficking is because they thought it was something they could attack Democrats with.

I think McD gets another year to turn things around but if we start next year like this he’s sure to get fired.


I like coach I hope he gets another crack at it

The offensive line for how badly they got beat on those goal line plays

Dude you didn't care that the country was being led by an obvious senile old man so don't pretend to have morals now. hahaha

On Biden's worst day he was more cognitive than Mr. Covfefe. 

I found it interesting that Joe Rose revealed today that Jimmy Cefalo and Kim Bokamper thought they should have kicked the FGs while he (Joe Rose) and Dan Marino thought they should have gone for it like they did. Seems to match what I'm seeing online as well.

I tend to think this will not derail Trump. 

Trump admitted to being a rapist in the Access Hollywood Tapes.  I doubt people who voted for him five times after hearing that tape will change their mind just because he is in the Epstein files.

His supports are happy with his approach of violating the constitution and international law by blowing up boats suspected of having drugs without bothering with things such as evidence or a trial.  (As indicated by CF)

His supports are so dilutional that they believe he is taking steps to reduce inflation. When in fact his tariffs and other economic policies are driving inflation higher.   (As indicated by CF)

As Spider has pointed out MAGA is not a political party it is a cult.  The cult has already accepted that Trump is a pedophile but that is okay because they were older looking 15 year olds and not elementary school aged. (See Megyn Kelly)

Dude you didn't care that the country was being led by an obvious senile old man so don't pretend to have morals now. hahaha

No, I agree prices are still going up but they are doing so at a lesser pace than the past. Some things, like gas and egss, have gotten cheaper but overall the cost of living is a struggle for many of us. I have lived through this several times in my life and know economy recovery is a lot like losing weight. It gets better a whole lot slower than the rate it got bad.  

Like I said ... we still have over 3 years more of Trump so I sure hope it gets better soon.