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« on: November 14, 2008, 12:55:55 pm »

www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-kass-13-nov13,0,2881384.column

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Tolerance fails T-shirt test
John Kass

November 13, 2008

As the media keeps gushing on about how America has finally adopted tolerance as the great virtue, and that we're all united now, let's consider the Brave Catherine Vogt Experiment.

Catherine Vogt, 14, is an Illinois 8th grader, the daughter of a liberal mom and a conservative dad. She wanted to conduct an experiment in political tolerance and diversity of opinion at her school in the liberal suburb of Oak Park.

She noticed that fellow students at Gwendolyn Brooks Middle School overwhelmingly supported Barack Obama for president. His campaign kept preaching "inclusion," and she decided to see how included she could be.

So just before the election, Catherine consulted with her history teacher, then bravely wore a unique T-shirt to school and recorded the comments of teachers and students in her journal. The T-shirt bore the simple yet quite subversive words drawn with a red marker:

"McCain Girl."

"I was just really curious how they'd react to something that different, because a lot of people at my school wore Obama shirts and they are big Obama supporters," Catherine told us. "I just really wanted to see what their reaction would be."

Immediately, Catherine learned she was stupid for wearing a shirt with Republican John McCain's name. Not merely stupid. Very stupid.

"People were upset. But they started saying things, calling me very stupid, telling me my shirt was stupid and I shouldn't be wearing it," Catherine said.

Then it got worse.

"One person told me to go die. It was a lot of dying. A lot of comments about how I should be killed," Catherine said, of the tolerance in Oak Park.

But students weren't the only ones surprised that she wore a shirt supporting McCain.

"In one class, I had one teacher say she will not judge me for my choice, but that she was surprised that I supported McCain," Catherine said.

If Catherine was shocked by such passive-aggressive threats from instructors, just wait until she goes to college.

"Later, that teacher found out about the experiment and said she was embarrassed because she knew I was writing down what she said," Catherine said.

One student suggested that she be put up on a cross for her political beliefs.

"He said, 'You should be crucifixed.' It was kind of funny because, I was like, don't you mean 'crucified?' " Catherine said.

Other entries in her notebook involved suggestions by classmates that she be "burned with her shirt on" for "being a filthy-rich Republican."

Some said that because she supported McCain, by extension she supported a plan by deranged skinheads to kill Obama before the election. And I thought such politicized logic was confined to American newsrooms. Yet Catherine refused to argue with her peers. She didn't want to jeopardize her experiment.

"I couldn't show people really what it was for. I really kind of wanted to laugh because they had no idea what I was doing," she said.

Only a few times did anyone say anything remotely positive about her McCain shirt. One girl pulled her aside in a corner, out of earshot of other students, and whispered, "I really like your shirt."

That's when you know America is truly supportive of diversity of opinion, when children must whisper for fear of being ostracized, heckled and crucifixed.

The next day, in part 2 of The Brave Catherine Vogt Experiment, she wore another T-shirt, this one with "Obama Girl" written in blue. And an amazing thing happened.

Catherine wasn't very stupid anymore. She grew brains.

"People liked my shirt. They said things like my brain had come back, and I had put the right shirt on today," Catherine said.

Some students accused her of playing both sides.

"A lot of people liked it. But some people told me I was a flip-flopper," she said. "They said, 'You can't make up your mind. You can't wear a McCain shirt one day and an Obama shirt the next day.' "

But she sure did, and she turned her journal into a report for her history teacher, earning Catherine extra credit. We asked the teacher, Norma Cassin-Pountney, whether it was ironic that Catherine would be subject to such intolerance from pro-Obama supporters in a community that prides itself on its liberal outlook.

"That's what we discussed," Cassin-Pountney said about the debate in the classroom when the experiment was revealed. "I said, here you are, promoting this person [Obama] that believes we are all equal and included, and look what you've done? The students were kind of like, 'Oh, yeah.' I think they got it."

Catherine never told us which candidate she would have voted for if she weren't an 8th grader. But she said she learned what it was like to be in the minority.

"Just being on the outside, how it felt, it was not fun at all," she said.

Don't ever feel as if you must conform, Catherine. Being on the outside isn't so bad. Trust me.
This is sad, but not really unexpected.  Was the hatred of Bush that much greater than the hatred of his father or Reagan?  Perhaps it was the racial component that made this campaign especially vitriolic? 

She sounds like a clever girl as well as quite brave.  I wonder if her lesson will actually stick with any of her peers or instructors. 

People are hypocrites, irrespective of political orientation. Although we're not all hypocrites to the same degree, we're all hypocrites to one degree or another, and that's just the way it is.  As shown by the example in this article, the minority of rabid political supporters who cross the line are more likely to be on the left than the right in the USA.  From stealing political yard signs to vandalizing cars and homes that dare display political messages to outlandish statements of that a girl wearing a McCain shirt should be burned.

One question from the article; they called her "dumb and stupid" for supporting McCain, and said she should be burned with her shirt on for being a “filthy rich Republican”.  If Republicans were so "dumb and stupid," how do they become so "filthy rich?"  Hatred and common sense don't coexist.
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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2008, 01:05:40 pm »

I don't think one school worth of 8th graders is a sufficient sampling to make any assumptions about our society. 8th graders are immature and I would dare say below the level they should be at intellectually.
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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2008, 01:12:28 pm »

What about people on this website calling others "idiots"?  Like I said before, kids learn behavior from adults.
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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2008, 01:30:56 pm »

When did  Obama or anyone else for that matter claim we were a tolerant society?

Stop the presses - breaking news. "Eight grader gets pick on by peers for having unpopular opinion"

I wonder what her classmates reaction would be if you wore a Arron Rodgers jersey to school today? I am guessing she would be called stupid for not supporting the Bears. 

And if she had worn an Obama shirt in a republican area of Alaska, would the reaction really be different.  Or better yet a shirt saying she was Biden girl. 

This really doesn't qualify as news.

If you have not yet watched Obama's speech "a more perfect union" aka the race speech in its entirety.  Not just because he is president. Not because it is the most important speech he has ever given. But it may be the most important speech on race relations  spoken in this country in 50 years. And a speech that could only be given by someone of mixed race. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrp-v2tHaDo


 
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« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2008, 01:57:01 pm »

I wonder what her classmates reaction would be if you wore a Arron Rodgers jersey to school today? I am guessing she would be called stupid for not supporting the Bears. 
Perhaps in Chicago ... but I'm not sure that doesn't support this article about democrats.   Wink


And if she had worn an Obama shirt in a republican area of Alaska, would the reaction really be different.
Yes, significantly. 

This really doesn't qualify as news.
Because it doesn't fit your preconceived notions?

Perhaps PE Obama needs to give a "political affiliation" speech.
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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2008, 02:05:04 pm »



Yes, significantly. 


Bullshit.

http://www.wapt.com/video/17928161/index.html

http://www.2news.tv/news/local/34403219.html

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80847

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27705755/?gt1=43001


Perhaps PE Obama needs to give a "political affiliation" speech.

Why? He pretty much covered it in the "race speech"  but if you won't listen and consider it, why give a second speech that you won't listen too?
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« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2008, 02:09:30 pm »


And what do we learn from this little story?

That it's never been easier to manipulate the media as it is right now.

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