In essence, Dolphins start their playoffs in Oakland

[Spider-Dan]

What is the difference between the Jets' season last year and the Rams' season last year?  Apparently, only that the Rams had a higher pick.

MikeO, are you seriously of the opinion that there is 1 Super Bowl winner and 31 wasted seasons every year?

[MikeO]

What is the difference between the Jets' season last year and the Rams' season last year?  Apparently, only that the Rams had a higher pick.

MikeO, are you seriously of the opinion that there is 1 Super Bowl winner and 31 wasted seasons every year?

I never said that at all. You Totally missed the point. I am saying teams that aren't in the playoffs playing in games in Nov and Dec with no playoff implications for them are "meaningless" games.

[Frimp]

I never said that at all. You Totally missed the point. I am saying teams that aren't in the playoffs playing in games in Nov and Dec with no playoff implications for them are "meaningless" games.

I have an idea...You should go coach the Patriots when Belicheat retires.

[Spider-Dan]

I never said that at all. You Totally missed the point. I am saying teams that aren't in the playoffs playing in games in Nov and Dec with no playoff implications for them are "meaningless" games.

For the record:

At this point last year, the New York Jets were 4-6, one game worse than Miami is now, with a division record of 1-4.  MikeO's advice to the team that made it to the AFC Championship game?  Shut it down!  You're done for this year.

[MikeO]

For the record:

At this point last year, the New York Jets were 4-6, one game worse than Miami is now, with a division record of 1-4.  MikeO's advice to the team that made it to the AFC Championship game?  Shut it down!  You're done for this year.

Not at all. Because the "landscape" in the AFC was very different last year. VERY DIFFERENT! Plus the Jets (per your example) held some tiebreaker options last year. They beat New England early in the season last year which gave them some bit of hope within the division and had other wins inside the AFC (Houston, Tenn..etc). Miami THIS year, lost tiebreakers to Pitt, Balt, and by losing at home to both Jets and Pats pretty much gave those tiebreakers away inside the AFC East.

If you can't see the difference you are putting your head in the sand and ignoring the obvious

[Sunstroke]

So, is "the landscape is different" actually something that can be quantified, or just an abstract concept with the right tone to support your statement? Does the use of quotation marks, underlining and capitalization intensify that tone in your mind?

^^^ Those are both actually facetious questions...

[masterfins]

For the record:

At this point last year, the New York Jets were 4-6, one game worse than Miami is now, with a division record of 1-4.  MikeO's advice to the team that made it to the AFC Championship game?  Shut it down!  You're done for this year.

How dare you try to make a logical argument with  MikeO.  Furthermore, how dare you bring FACTS into the argument.  When are you going to learn that whatever MikeO's stated opinion is like Gospel from God, and you (we) are all wrong???