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« Reply #45 on: April 21, 2021, 08:23:33 am »

If we split the country up in to two separate, ideological opposites, they probably would both fail, at least at first.

The red country would be broke as shit, first of all.  Pretty much all of the money comes from the blue states.  But then, the blue states wouldn't be able to produce their own food.

It'd likely end in a war over resources.
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« Reply #46 on: April 21, 2021, 12:28:36 pm »

CA is the #1 food producer in the US and #5 in the world.  I don't think food would be as big of an issue as you suggest.

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« Reply #47 on: April 21, 2021, 01:20:45 pm »

If I understand your reply correctly, Fau was fantasizing about liberals moving to red states and turning them blue, while you were fantasizing about breaking up the Union.  Points for consistency, at least.
Also, I think that more red states may adopt what FL just passed, House Bill 1 "Combating Public Disorder Act". It should deter some of the extremists once they start getting felonies, fines, and jail time. Not to mention if you gonna play in the road and intimidate or threaten people you might just get run over.

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« Reply #48 on: April 21, 2021, 02:52:53 pm »

CA is the #1 food producer in the US and #5 in the world.  I don't think food would be as big of an issue as you suggest.


LOL ... California’s farms and ranches are doing the producing and is very RED as is much of the state. LOL ... they wouldn't stick around very long. Unless LA and San Fran learned to cultivate more than pot you might have a chance.

Red states wouldn't need as much money if they weren't paying for other people.
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« Reply #49 on: April 21, 2021, 03:14:41 pm »

In your version of this hypothetical secession, are Democrat-controlled Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, and Austin still part of Texas?  Take the blue cities out of the new Confederacy and you guys won't have to worry about where your money goes, because you won't have any.

We have also previously discussed that when it comes to federal money, blue states are makers and red states are takers, so you're wrong there, too.
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« Reply #50 on: April 21, 2021, 03:16:08 pm »

LOL ... California’s farms and ranches are doing the producing and is very RED as is much of the state.

Aside from your hearty plastic LOL, do you have anything from any reputable source?  Otherwise I have to consider that as just a steamy shovelful of horse$hit.

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« Reply #51 on: April 21, 2021, 03:30:04 pm »

Aside from your hearty plastic LOL, do you have anything from any reputable source?  Otherwise I have to consider that as just a steamy shovelful of horse$hit.


I think he's referring to this:





Tulare, Fresno and Kern counties each had gross value of agricultural production over $6 billion.
Tulare County decreased 13.7 percent from $8 billion in 2014 to $6.98 billion in 2015 but was still the No. 1 ranked county both years.


https://www.ocregister.com/2017/07/27/california-farms-produce-a-lot-of-food-but-what-and-how-much-might-surprise-you/
https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/california/

Only Fresno county is blue.
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« Reply #52 on: April 21, 2021, 04:24:30 pm »

Why does that even matter?  CA is CA.

If you're talking about slicing up states into red and blue chunks, secession becomes even more unworkable.  You can't seriously believe every Republican in a blue state gets to secede but every Democrat in a red state has to suck it up.
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« Reply #53 on: April 21, 2021, 04:29:35 pm »

I think he's referring to this:

Thanks...I appreciate the post.

Spider is right though...CA is a blue state, and no matter how much twisting gets done to this impossible scenario, that isn't going to change.

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