Piracy vs. Theft

[bsfins]

I kind of skimmed this argument...

Jeff Dunham (ventriloquist comedian) in his Bio channel biography (I watched it one late night) Used a 3D printer,to make his latest doll.They had cut ins showing him going through his year long process of making the doll.He was a sculpter,and made most (if not all)of his previous dolls..He had a guy on Mad magazine illustrator,come up with sketches based on what Jeff was wanting,He then sculpted the head in clay,then scanned it to make a 3d model,cleaned up the model for the 3D printing (they acted like it was his quite large 3d printer,it appeared to be in his shop/studio in his basement) I think they mentioned this was the largest project he ever did with the printer,and did it two halves...It took like 18-24 hours...Then painted it,clothed it,etc,etc...

It's the "best" thing I've ever really seen come out of a 3d printer so far...I kind of bring it up to make this point...

Whether it's a Milling machine,3d printer,automated routing maching,Laser etcher,A desktop computer,How about a Dremel,A wood/metal lathe,a wood router? ...It's still just a tool...I think it goes to the cost effectiveness of what you do with it.

How many things in your house are you capable of laser etching to make it worth your while to buy one?

I'd love to have an automated router like Ben Heck (super modder) has,Lay it out in illustrator,input it in the router program,put a 1" piece of Plywood in,and cut all the pieces for whatever project I need...

A desktop computer for me,is worth it for me...I have an I7860,16GB's of ram,ATI 6000 series video card.. (I'm planning on doing another build May-June maybe of this year to an Ivy bridge I7,maybe an SSD drive) I need this for my 3d modeling stuff,I have no need for a tablet computer.....

I think the market for most of this stuff just isn't big enough to be main stream,between cost to buy,versus usage,and let's throw in space to use this type of equipment.I just feel (unless there is some incredible break though in Technology) this stuff is going to be high end hobby people,or people in business for them self type stuff...(Pappy's point really)

My two cents...

[Phishfan]

Jeff Dunham (ventriloquist comedian) in his Bio channel biography (I watched it one late night) Used a 3D printer,to make his latest doll.They had cut ins showing him going through his year long process of making the doll.He was a sculpter,and made most (if not all)of his previous dolls..He had a guy on Mad magazine illustrator,come up with sketches based on what Jeff was wanting,He then sculpted the head in clay,then scanned it to make a 3d model,cleaned up the model for the 3D printing (they acted like it was his quite large 3d printer,it appeared to be in his shop/studio in his basement) I think they mentioned this was the largest project he ever did with the printer,and did it two halves...It took like 18-24 hours...Then painted it,clothed it,etc,etc...

I kept trying to remember where I first saw a 3D printer and it was the same program. Thanks for the memory jog.

[bsfins]

I hate to drag this up,but Popular mechanics has an article about 3d printing and laws...it kind of fits this ....(there is an article link in the story about Jay Leno using a 3d printer make parts for some of his old cars....(I admit I just skimmed both articles)
http://www.popularmechanics.com/how-to/blog/sxw-the-looming-legal-battles-over-3d-printing-7333888?click=pm_latest

[Dave Gray]

I randomly gravedug this today and find the discussion of the prediction of 3D printer advancement pretty interesting.

They're not in every home, but I personally know several people who operate one regularly.  My understanding of how to use them differs from some predictions.  I wouldn't print a cup, for example, but hard-to-find or unique stuff, absolutely yes.

And while the idea of printing parts yourself definitely exists, it's likelier that you will have to 3D model it yourself.

They're also much cheaper.  One hypothetical was getting them under $3000 ...and we were talking about a 30 year timeline.  They're as little a few hundred bucks and it's been 9 years.

[pondwater]

I randomly gravedug this today and find the discussion of the prediction of 3D printer advancement pretty interesting.

They're not in every home, but I personally know several people who operate one regularly.  My understanding of how to use them differs from some predictions.  I wouldn't print a cup, for example, but hard-to-find or unique stuff, absolutely yes.

And while the idea of printing parts yourself definitely exists, it's likelier that you will have to 3D model it yourself.

They're also much cheaper.  One hypothetical was getting them under $3000 ...and we were talking about a 30 year timeline.  They're as little a few hundred bucks and it's been 9 years.

Hell yeah, lets print some firearms

[Sunstroke]

Hell yeah, lets print some firearms

Make sure you use a plastic or carbon fiber material...so you don't trigger the metal detectors at the Capitol.  

[pondwater]

Make sure you use a plastic or carbon fiber material...so you don't trigger the metal detectors at the Capitol.  

Nah, was just joking, 3D printing is too much trouble. I'll just continue to buy Glock, Sig, and AR 80% receivers. Cheap enough, legal, and no FFL required. Build guns and guitars with my new found spare time, haha.

[ArtieChokePhin]

Nah, was just joking, 3D printing is too much trouble. I'll just continue to buy Glock, Sig, and AR 80% receivers. Cheap enough, legal, and no FFL required. Build guns and guitars with my new found spare time, haha.

I like my guns the way Biden likes his voters..... undocumented and untraceable.

[pondwater]

I like my guns the way Biden likes his voters..... undocumented and untraceable.

Since the Democrats don't think we need mandatory ID for voting. In turn we shouldn't need ID to exercise our 2nd amendment right. Therefore I have acquired a few AR and Glock 80% lowers. Unfortunately, right now for the time being, I'm pretty much retired and it's boring as hell. Game consoles, video cards, firearms, ammo, AND gun parts are impossible to find.

Interestingly enough, 80% lowers are easy to find. Just wish someone would come out with an 80% polymer DA/SA with decocker to build. Something like a poly frame Beretta 92 or Sig 226/2022. Not really a fan of Glocks. But I guess they still go pew pew pew.

On the 3D printer topic. Too much trouble for me with 80% lowers so readily available. But I have a friend with a 3D printer, but he's scared to get online to do the research and find the files needed. He thinks they're "WATCHING" him. I keep telling him that a 3D printed lower isn't any different than a retail 80% lower.

[Dave Gray]

I like my guns the way Biden likes his voters..... undocumented and untraceable.

Why would you say this?

[pondwater]

Why would you say this?

Is that a real question? LMAO

[Dave Gray]

Yes