Mike McDaniel and race/ethnicity

[pondwater]

To sum up your contributions to the discourse so far:

1) it's racist to call Obama "black"
2) actually, it's more accurate to call Brian Flores "white" than it is to call him "black"

The takes are getting more galaxy-brained by the second.  Your premises are so incredibly busted that your conclusions don't even qualify as wrong.
It's some the square root of blue is grape level logic.

I'll be waiting when you are ready to address my previous post. Thanks and have a great evening.

[CF DolFan]

Don't know if anyone caught the presser today but McDaniel say he finds it odd people are debating as to what he identifies racially. He said he identifies as "human" basically saying don't bring me into your race bating game ... haha.

[pondwater]

Don't know if anyone caught the presser today but McDaniel say he finds it odd people are debating as to what he identifies racially. He said he identifies as "human" basically saying don't bring me into your race bating game ... haha.

I find it odd that Spider can't fully explain his position. Maybe the paint in the corner hasn't dried yet, LMFAO......

[Spider-Dan]

pondwater, since you seem to be hung up on this thread:  when you vehemently insist that Brian Flores is black and not multiracial for several pages, then spin on a dime and say actually, he's more white than black without losing a beat, it's crystal clear that you're just making up positions on the fly.

Why would I bother arguing with you further on this topic when you casually dismiss your entire premise and instantly make up a new one after I conclusively prove you wrong?  You didn't know the first thing about the topic you were grandstanding on; for god's sake, you couldn't even figure out that a man named Brian Flores might not be 100% black!

Just accept your L and move on.

[pondwater]

pondwater, since you seem to be hung up on this thread:  when you vehemently insist that Brian Flores is black and not multiracial for several pages, then spin on a dime and say actually, he's more white than black without losing a beat, it's crystal clear that you're just making up positions on the fly.

Why would I bother arguing with you further on this topic when you casually dismiss your entire premise and instantly make up a new one after I conclusively prove you wrong?  You didn't know the first thing about the topic you were grandstanding on; for god's sake, you couldn't even figure out that a man named Brian Flores might not be 100% black!

Just accept your L and move on.

No, as stated I was wrong about Flores. After I realized my mistake I admitted I was wrong like a grown man. However, I notice that you still haven't addressed the inconsistencies in your stance.

You said that Flores, Obama, and Harris were black.

With 2 Honduran parents how does "black" apply to Flores? I guess technically he could be Black/Hispanic, but that would put him in the multiracial category. Obama and Harris are definitely multiracial. Why do you specifically pick the "black" label over "Hispanic","White", or "Indian"?

Seems to me that you're the one actually using skin tone to push the "black" label while discounting the other ethnicities involved.

[Spider-Dan]

Again, you have no clue what "black" even means.  You were happily insisting that Brian Flores was "black" right until you found out his parents are from Honduras, at which point you seamlessly pivoted to claiming that he's more white than black (?!).  Do you even understand how ridiculous you sound?  You still have ZERO clue about the heritage of Flores' family!  You have no idea whatsoever what ethnicity his grandparents or great-grandparents were!

Your standard for which Americans qualify as "black" is nonsensical and ridiculous, and you compound this insanity by insisting that anyone who calls Barack Obama or Kamala Harris "black" is racist.  By your own logic, your repeated references to Flores as "black" mean that YOU are racist.  The cherry on top is you happily refer to Mike Tomlin and David Culley as "black" with no clue whatsoever about their heritage.

You don't have the first clue what you are talking about and you refuse to learn.  Once more: accept your L and move on.

[pondwater]

Again, you have no clue what "black" even means.  You were happily insisting that Brian Flores was "black" right until you found out his parents are from Honduras, at which point you seamlessly pivoted to claiming that he's more white than black (?!).  Do you even understand how ridiculous you sound?  You still have ZERO clue about the heritage of Flores' family!  You have no idea whatsoever what ethnicity his grandparents or great-grandparents were!

Your standard for which Americans qualify as "black" is nonsensical and ridiculous, and you compound this insanity by insisting that anyone who calls Barack Obama or Kamala Harris "black" is racist.  By your own logic, your repeated references to Flores as "black" mean that YOU are racist.  The cherry on top is you happily refer to Mike Tomlin and David Culley as "black" with no clue whatsoever about their heritage.

You don't have the first clue what you are talking about and you refuse to learn.  Once more: accept your L and move on.

And still haven't answered the question. Pivot, deflect, and divert. It says a lot about your position. How can you say black lives matter when you can't even define a black life, lmao..