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jtex316
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« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2006, 11:28:27 am »

I think the very last image is fake.  The backgrounds don't match up on the last image as they do the rest of the images.  In the rest of the pics, the people are all gathered round and it's busy.  In the last one, that truck is falling, and no-one cares, and there are only a few people talking.
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« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2006, 11:54:33 am »

Boy Aren't we a cynical bunch  Grin Roll Eyes

A few things that intrigues me...

The depth of the water...It appears to be less than 4'

There is no damage on the sea walls...

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« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2006, 12:01:10 pm »

The furthur you get your load from the center of the crane, the heavier it becomes. It's called physics.

Not to be anal here, but this is wrong.  The load doesn't become heavier.  The weight of the load introduces more torque the longer the arm is.  Torque desribes the rotational force that will cause a system to rotate around a pivot point (in this case the crane itself or outiggers if they are out). 

I agree, though.  If the crane isn't rated for the load they are lifting it is likely to tip.  The length of the boom arm acts as a multiplier on torque.  So if they car is 100 lbs. overweight and the arm is 10 ft. long, the resulting torque is 1000 ft. lbs.  The length of the arm makes a huge difference.
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« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2006, 12:04:12 pm »

Did you guys notice the guy standing on the submerged car in the first pic? 
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« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2006, 12:13:30 pm »

Not to be anal here, but this is wrong.  The load doesn't become heavier.  The weight of the load introduces more torque the longer the arm is.  Torque desribes the rotational force that will cause a system to rotate around a pivot point (in this case the crane itself or outiggers if they are out). 

I agree, though.  If the crane isn't rated for the load they are lifting it is likely to tip.  The length of the boom arm acts as a multiplier on torque.  So if they car is 100 lbs. overweight and the arm is 10 ft. long, the resulting torque is 1000 ft. lbs.  The length of the arm makes a huge difference.

What...ever ...  Wink

I know that the rate of allowable weight is significantly reduced by distance away from the rig. Distance is the accumaualtion of the length of the boom and the angle you are boomed out. I now know what increases and decreases is the "torque."  Grin
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« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2006, 10:16:31 pm »

In the 5th picture we see the white car under the red crane truck.  In the 6th picture we see the white car being lifted by the green crane truck.  In the 7th picture the white car is loaded on the red flatbed truck (behind the green crane truck).  In the 8th picture the white car is both on the red flatbed AND in the water under the red crane truck.  Hmmmm.

The red car parked in the background goes away for pictures #6-8 and then mysteriously returns to the exact same spot for the last picture.

The boats in the background hardly seem to be drifting.

Why no final picture of both trucks in the water?
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« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2006, 10:22:54 am »

If you can see that car in the water in the same photo where it is on the rollback, you have x-ray eyes. I don't see any evidence of a car.
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