Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
August 03, 2026, 12:02:49 pm
Home Help Search Calendar Login Register
News: Brian Fein is now blogging weekly!  Make sure to check the homepage for his latest editorial.
+  The Dolphins Make Me Cry.com - Forums
|-+  TDMMC Forums
| |-+  Other Sports Talk (Moderator: MaineDolFan)
| | |-+  Pitchers on the market
« previous next »
Pages: [1] Print
Author Topic: Pitchers on the market  (Read 6155 times)
MaineDolFan
Global Moderator
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 11671

MaineDolFan
« on: June 27, 2006, 11:17:49 am »

These are the "big names" that will most likely get moved before the break:  Livan Hernandez, John Smoltz, Greg Maddux, Tim Hudson, Dontrelle Willis, Paul Byrd, Ramon Ortiz.

Had Kerry Wood not flamed out again, you could add his name to that mix. 

If I were a betting man, I would think that Detroit will end up with Smoltz.  He's basically said he would only go there and the Tigers could put together a nice package for him.

The Red Sox have been talking to Atlanta for a while about Hudson, and he would be a real nice fit in Boston.  Toronto is also interesting in Tim, both teams have the prospects Atlanta might be looking for.  Paul Byrd is a name that should float up in Boston as well, with Boston's defense he could really do well and come cheap.

Livan Hernandez is a wild card.  There could be something wrong with the guy and the year he's having...a team like Texas might reach on this one. 

Willis is going to take a lot to get.  I think the Mets might have a lead in that race.
Logged

"God is a comedian, playing to an audience too afraid to laugh."
-Voltaire
Denver_Bronco
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 6666


America's team


« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2006, 11:29:44 am »

Cool. When you get a chance can you also list some 'decent' bullpen arms who are available ? The Yankees need about 3 or 4 guys.
Logged

Bronco: An unbroken or imperfectly broken range horse of western No. America
Donkey: Descendant of the African wild ass that has been used as a beast of burden since 4000BC.
Jackass: Someone who doesn't know the difference.
Fau Teixeira
Administrator
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 6436



« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2006, 11:39:58 am »

i think "a lot" is an understatement for willis .. the marlins are alot better than anyone expected and look to make a strong playoff push next season .. willis will be part of it
Logged
MaineDolFan
Global Moderator
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 11671

MaineDolFan
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2006, 11:43:06 am »

i think "a lot" is an understatement for willis .. the marlins are alot better than anyone expected and look to make a strong playoff push next season .. willis will be part of it

I really hope you are right, but for the right mix of prospects - they will deal him.
Logged

"God is a comedian, playing to an audience too afraid to laugh."
-Voltaire
Denver_Bronco
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 6666


America's team


« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2006, 11:53:56 am »

I really hope he is wrong. I would love to see Willis donning the pinstripes by the all star break.
Logged

Bronco: An unbroken or imperfectly broken range horse of western No. America
Donkey: Descendant of the African wild ass that has been used as a beast of burden since 4000BC.
Jackass: Someone who doesn't know the difference.
MaineDolFan
Global Moderator
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 11671

MaineDolFan
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2006, 11:58:47 am »

I really hope he is wrong. I would love to see Willis donning the pinstripes by the all star break.
It would take Wang and Cano to get him.
Logged

"God is a comedian, playing to an audience too afraid to laugh."
-Voltaire
Denver_Bronco
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 6666


America's team


« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2006, 12:02:55 pm »

It would take Wang and Cano to get him.
We can't win... Roll Eyes This is the position we have backed ourselves into.
Logged

Bronco: An unbroken or imperfectly broken range horse of western No. America
Donkey: Descendant of the African wild ass that has been used as a beast of burden since 4000BC.
Jackass: Someone who doesn't know the difference.
MaineDolFan
Global Moderator
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 11671

MaineDolFan
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2006, 12:04:51 pm »

Seriously - looking at the Yankees "haves" and the Marlins "needs" - they are going to want players that can come in and make an impact now (ala Hanley R).  They won't give up an arm unless they get one.  All that said, I wouldn't be shocked to see the Yankees deal Cano and Wang for Willis if Cabby is included in the deal.
Logged

"God is a comedian, playing to an audience too afraid to laugh."
-Voltaire
Sunstroke
YJFF Member
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 23010

Do you know what I am saying?


Email
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2006, 12:56:46 pm »

Seriously - looking at the Yankees "haves" and the Marlins "needs" - they are going to want players that can come in and make an impact now (ala Hanley R). They won't give up an arm unless they get one. All that said, I wouldn't be shocked to see the Yankees deal Cano and Wang for Willis if Cabby is included in the deal.

If "Cabby" is included in the deal? Only "Cabby" I know that's teamed up with Dontrelle is Miguel Cabrera, and if the Fish trade Dontrelle and Miggy after watching the rest of the kids battle their asses off all season...well, I won't be highly amused. At all...

I really don't see it happening though... Jim Jennings, the Marlins' VP of Personnel, was on their pregame show last week and made some very plain comments about Cabrera being one of the players they want to keep and build on for the future. He was responding to some trade rumor that was going around about the Cardinals wanting to swing a deal for Miggy.


Logged

"No more yankie my wankie. The Donger need food!"
~Long Duk Dong
bsfins
Guest
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2006, 01:38:12 pm »

Quote
He was responding to some trade rumor that was going around about the Cardinals wanting to swing a deal for Miggy.

Damn that's one of my worst nightmares...please tell me It's not rue....

Logged
Sunstroke
YJFF Member
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 23010

Do you know what I am saying?


Email
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2006, 02:01:55 pm »

That was the rumor going around...originally noted by Peter Gammons in his blog. The Card's were trying to get a third team involved to make the trade work. Florida would have gotten a very good rookie pitcher (A-Reyes) in the deal they were talking about.

I know that Maine is probably gonna slap me down for such blatant baseball heresy, but I think the Marlins are sitting just fine with young pitching prospects. Between Josh Johnson, Ricky Nolasco, Scott Olsen, Anibel Sanchez, etc..., I think FL is OK in that particular area. Now we just need to build a potent offense around them. Dealing Miguel Cabrera for more young pitching just seems like overkill.



Logged

"No more yankie my wankie. The Donger need food!"
~Long Duk Dong
EDGECRUSHER
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 10137



« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2006, 06:16:15 pm »

Cool. When you get a chance can you also list some 'decent' bullpen arms who are available ? The Yankees need about 3 or 4 guys.

I honestly don't think we do, we just need a manager who doesn't suck with the bullpen. He trusts guys too much and doesn't use others enough. Matt Smith was brought up a few weeks ago and he hasn't given up a run. Everything he was asked to do, he did and he hans't been used in God knows how long. TJ Beam needs more oppurtunities too.

Overworking Proctor and now knowing that Farnsworth is useless is killing the team. I think we have the arms to be fine.
Logged
Pages: [1] Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  

The Dolphins Make Me Cry - Copyright© 2008 - Designed and Marketed by Dave Gray


Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines