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bsfins
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« on: March 13, 2009, 03:11:58 pm »

Well,I've been working with a multitude of programs lately (Photoshop,Illustrator,swift 3d,cinema4d,studio 3d max,imapi pro) and I've crashed my computer to the blue screen of death a few times...(most of the time it's telling me it's a graphics card error) I'm running an Nvidia 8600Gt...It was an ok card for the money, I think it was thundergod,or FYO that recommended Tom hardware.I think is a great resource...I thought about getting a Workstation card (I'm told I'd probably get better performance) but I still play a few games...and a Work station card is mondo expensive....I'm not sure how well I could play games,and steam video to my T.V.....

So I'm wondering if My theory holds any water....I figure I get a a card with lots of memory,a high Core clock,and a high RAMDAC speed...With the right out's on the card...Frame rate's not going to help my stuff render faster,smoother..I'm also hoping the more memory,will help considering I'm no able to take advantage of almost full GB of ram running windows XP....

Is there something else I should look for?
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« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2009, 06:55:01 pm »

The RAMDAC is only relevant if you're going to use rgb out (analog, i.e. not the DVI or HDMI ports). It sits completely idle if you're using the digital output ports.

I really don't know what distinguishes NVIDIA's "Quadro" workstation cards from their regular offerings these days. It used to be pretty much just a driver optimized for CAD (antialiased lines etc), but I have no idea if that's changed.

I don't think more graphics memory is necessarily going to help you a whole lot, but that again depends on exactly what's GPU accelerated and how it's implemented. Do note that the amount of graphics memory counts against the "4GB limit" in Windows unless you get a 64bit version (of Windows).
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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2009, 10:40:15 pm »

I hoped it didn't count against my 3.15 Gb's of ram,even though I've got 4 GB..It just drives me bonkers it take 12 minutes of waiting to see if I corrected something,then 30 seconds of adjusting...another 12 minutes of rerendering....I was hoping a new video card would help solve that...
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2009, 12:01:47 pm »

It just drives me bonkers it take 12 minutes of waiting to see if I corrected something,then 30 seconds of adjusting...another 12 minutes of rerendering....I was hoping a new video card would help solve that...

What program is that? I'm assuming it's not a massive Photoshop filter Wink

3DSMax? Final scene rendering is 100% CPU (except for a few specific plugins, like Mental Ray and Gelato), so a better graphics won't do much for you there. Upgrading your processor to a quad-core will give you a HUGE boost in performance, though. I think you said you had a dual core... going from, say, a Core 2 Duo E8200 (2.6GHz) to a Core 2 Quad Q6600 (2.4GHz) speeds up Tom's Hardware's benchmark scene from 72 seconds to 48 seconds. The Q6600 is available for $185 from Newegg (~ same price as the dual core E8500, which scores 60 seconds on the benchmark).

In Cinema4D, the speed-up is about the same: from 235 seconds to 153 seconds.

Going to a Core i7 would, of course, speed things up even more, but then you'd be shelling out a LOT more as well. With a bit of luck, the Q6600 could be a drop-in replacement for you current processor. You get a bit more bang for your buck with AMD Phenom quad-core systems in both 3DS Max and Cinema4D, but if you already have an Intel motherboard, the difference isn't worth a change.

I doubt Cinema4D has GPU rendering for anything but previews either, barring a few select plugins.

Memory and a faster processor (more cores) would be your best bet to speed things up.

If you're regularly getting Blue Screened, try changing graphics driver. E.g. download the latest WHQL certified driver - or, if you've already done that - try the latest, bleeding-edge non-WHQL certified one. You might even try an older driver, just to check if the bug is something that has crept in recently.
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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2009, 12:20:15 pm »

I'm mainly running Cinema4d,that's crashing, I'll be on all 4 views and zoom in fast not thinking about it .....Crash....Ever time it says it's the video card...CD4 Version 11 uses open GL,I've got it all turned on....
Right now I'm running a Dual core e6750,and running the latest Nvidia drivers from (march 3rd)..

I appreciate the info...FYO..
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