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« Reply #60 on: January 13, 2012, 05:03:11 pm »

Reread my edit. In EVERY plus one system the plus one is added. None of the bowl games would be done away with. They would ALL be played, and another game would be added. Why do you think it's called plus one? The quotes I put specifically DO say something about net games. One of them said, and I even bolded it, "a "plus one" approach featuring a championship game after the 35 bowl games."  That's a net of 36+1=37.

You seem to misunderstand what the "plus-one" concept is. Currently, #1 plays #2 in the BCS Title Bowl, and #3 plays #4. Under plus-one, these match-ups would still occur, only the "BCS Title Bowl" would be called something else (like it was previously- the Rose Bowl, if that's where it was played, or the Fiesta Bowl, or where ever it was designated to play). The winners of these games would then play eachother in an additional game, slated 2-3 weeks later, effectively extending the 13 week season to 15 or 16 weeks.  It's not an issue of me making up my mind about +1 or +3; these are two separate issue that are BOTH being discussed. My point was that if a +1 adds 2-3 weeks to the season, a +3 will add even more. -EK
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« Reply #61 on: January 13, 2012, 05:55:37 pm »

The quotes I put specifically DO say something about net games. One of them said, and I even bolded it, "a "plus one" approach featuring a championship game after the 35 bowl games."  That's a net of 36+1=37.
35 + 1 = 37?  Interesting math.

In any case, the 35 bowl games in 2011-12 INCLUDES the BCS National Championship Game.  So unless you plan on playing a "BCS National Championship Game" featuring #6 vs. #9 (with no chance to advance), that game will necessarily be "eliminated" and "replaced" with the new +1 championship game.  Net games added: zero.

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Currently, #1 plays #2 in the BCS Title Bowl, and #3 plays #4.
False.  The only guaranteed matchup in the BCS is #1 vs. #2, in the National Championship Game.  Every other game is dependent on who wins which conference and where they finished in the BCS standings.

This year, #3 HAPPENED to play #4.  Last year, it was #3 vs #5 and #4 vs #13.  The year before that, it was #3 vs. #5 and #4 vs. #6.  Before that, it was #3 vs #10 and #4 vs. #6.

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Under plus-one, these match-ups would still occur, only the "BCS Title Bowl" would be called something else (like it was previously- the Rose Bowl, if that's where it was played, or the Fiesta Bowl, or where ever it was designated to play).
It would be helpful if you understood how the BCS works today.

Prior to 2007, one of the four BCS bowls (Rose, Fiesta, Sugar, Orange) was designated as the BCS National Championship Game.  After that, the system was changed so that all four of those bowls play their normal bowl games, and then (on a rotating basis) one of those sites hosts an EXTRA game approximately one week later.  This game is dubbed the BCS National Championship Game.  As an example, this year the Sugar Bowl was held on January 3rd at the Superdome, and the National Championship Game was held there 6 days later.  Last year, the Fiesta Bowl was on January 1st at University of Phoenix Stadium, and the National Championship Game was held there 9 days later.

So no, the BCS Championship Game couldn't be reverted to the "Orange Bowl" because that would mean that there would be TWO Orange Bowls that year.
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« Reply #62 on: January 13, 2012, 06:00:10 pm »

You completely don't understand the concept of what plus one means. This debate is pointless. Someone else who can explain it in a way Spider gets it please chime in. I'm done. -EK
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« Reply #63 on: January 13, 2012, 07:07:34 pm »

When you are talking about the championship game "going back to what it was called previously," you clearly don't understand how the BCS is currently structured.

So you probably won't be able to explain your idea in a way that I will get it.  You're basing your theories on a broken interpretation of the current system.
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« Reply #64 on: January 14, 2012, 07:56:32 am »

I could live without a playoff system if and only if there were like 8 bowls instead of 30.  Since we know the NCAA isn't going to let us get rid of the Sal's Birdland Chicken Gizzard Bowl that pits a team halfway down the MAC against the team that lost in a semi-final in the Big East, then I want a playoff.
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« Reply #65 on: January 14, 2012, 01:23:30 pm »

I could live without a playoff system if and only if there were like 8 bowls instead of 30.  Since we know the NCAA isn't going to let us get rid of the Sal's Birdland Chicken Gizzard Bowl that pits a team halfway down the MAC against the team that lost in a semi-final in the Big East, then I want a playoff.
Seriously BigDaddy? I love the Gizzard bowl!!! That's what the spirit of football was meant to be! In fact we shouldn't even keep score!  Smiley
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« Reply #66 on: January 15, 2012, 07:53:38 am »

Now evidently they're considering it.  NBC Sports was talking about it before the playoff game.  They keep the 4 major bowls still use the plus one format and have I think it's an 8 team playoff but it might have been 4.
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