Report: Dolphins prefer to trade Reshad Jones

[pondwater]

BB was able to get Moss to buy in large part because of his willingness to part ways/bench players who didn’t follow the script.

BB traded away the second greatest wr in the history of the NFL two years after setting record for most TD receptions.

Demoted to back up league leader in receptions for making a snow angle.

Did the samething for making foot jokes.

Benched the starting safety in the SB for still unknown reasons. 

So what you're basically saying is that while BB is a great coach, at the same time he's a fucking asshole too, LMFAO....

[pondwater]

But DeVante Parker is as much of the problem if not a bigger part of the problem. Too many guys with talent coming out of college or in free agency don't seem to produce. You're putting that on the Dolphins coaching staff which I agree they are partly to blame, but some of the blame needs to go on DeVante Parker for not being able to reach his potential. Both the coaching staff and the players need to be held accountable, not just the coaching staff. Same thing goes for players that get traded or leave in free agency, some of that is on them because winning is the goal and there hasn't been enough of that in Miami. They need to take some blame for that as well, it's not just all on the coaching staff. I haven't really seen a long list of guys leaving Miami for other teams and suddenly turning around their fortunes elsewhere. There's a couple, but the list isn't long.

I don't know about that. There are plenty of examples of mediocre players going to other teams and doing better. Current staff withstanding, previous coaching staffs in Miami don't exactly have stellar reputations. Isn't it the running joke that when we release or trade someone that they go somewhere else in the AFCE and continue to haunt us for years and years?

[BuccaneerBrad]

I don't know about that. There are plenty of examples of mediocre players going to other teams and doing better. Current staff withstanding, previous coaching staffs in Miami don't exactly have stellar reputations. Isn't it the running joke that when we release or trade someone that they go somewhere else in the AFCE and continue to haunt us for years and years?

Same could be said about previous Bucs coaching staffs.   Darelle Revis, LeGarrette Blount, Adrian Clayborn, Mark Barron, Aquib Talib..... shall I go on?

[pondwater]

Same could be said about previous Bucs coaching staffs.   Darelle Revis, LeGarrette Blount, Adrian Clayborn, Mark Barron, Aquib Talib..... shall I go on?

It's a Florida thing, haha.

[Spider-Dan]

Lol .... Randy Moss is a perfect example. He chose to drop his attitude to be a team player on a great team. It happened "before" he was signed and not afterwards. Unless BB has some kind of Jedi mind tricks to change them before he coaches them then he wasn't coached into being a team player. hahahaha

What you are trying to say is that Belichick talked with Moss and got him to buy in, where other coaches tried the same thing and could not.  That is the textbook definition of good coaching, and you seem to believe it's laughable.

This is another case of players changing their attitude and buying into Phil. Phil got respect with Michael Jordon so other attitude players believed in him before he coached them. It's not like they were asses under him and he somehow made them see the light.

How did Phil get Jordan to respect him after Doug Collins was fired?
How did Phil get Shaq and Kobe to buy in when other coaches (like Jeff Van Gundy) were saying the only reason Phil ever had any success was because Jordan landed in his lap?
Getting good players to "change their attitude" is exactly what Flores and his predecessors refuse to do.  That's the point!

Again, these are TEXTBOOK examples of coaches convincing players to buy in.  Brian Flores has a Super Bowl ring as a safety coach, and he can't figure out how to get through to a safety and convince him that things will be different?  Or is it that he doesn't think it's even worth it to try?

I've said it before: the only thing Belichick seems to teach his coaching staff is how to be haughty assholes.  He definitely teaches them the part about trading away Moss and benching Welker or Butler to prove how much of a hardass you are, yet he never seems to teach them the part about getting Dillon or Moss or Revis to buy in to your program.