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« Reply #60 on: March 18, 2021, 04:31:53 pm »

Why does the asshole get such a bad rap?  It provides for a very meaningful bodily function.  Where would we be without the asshole?

As a female friend once pointed out to me, the pussy also gets an undeserved reputation.  As she stated it, "Why is the word pussy used to describe someone who is a sissy?  Pussies are tough.  They take a pounding and keep coming back for more."   I could not argue with her point. 
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« Reply #61 on: March 18, 2021, 06:54:23 pm »

I would like to repost this, again, because I could not say this any better myself.  Here is an example of how, as a conservative, you could walk this path:

NOT stating transgendered people have a mental illness.  

What you are saying is not an opinion.  You are stating a medical fallacy, based on your personal issues.  You are making a medical diagnosis, one which is so out of the realm of being true, it's not funny.

*YOU* do not believe in the science behind body dysmorphia, or the actual science behind the real issues of the transgendered community.  Rather than taking your "live and let live" approach, you are choosing to gas light an entire portion of our population with a statement which is hateful, and untrue.

There are absolutely zero reasons to argue with any of you, I understand this.  I would have more success debating with my Michael Scott Funko-O pop, sitting on my desk.  But that's reality.

You either truly want to "live and let live," or you don't - as Spider very keenly observed.  
I disagree with much of what you said but that is to be expected. The fact you said it doesn't make it any truer than I saying it. I got my perspective from doctors, pastors, and a litany of debates. Ben Shapiro, a Jew, will gladly spout out dozens of statistics and doctors opinions on why transsexualism is a mental illness. Fortunately you can easily google tons of hours of this for your viewing pleasure if facts are what you are really interested in and not just your opinion.

As far as live and let live ... most conservatives couldn't give a rats ass about who wears what or sticks what in whom. It's when it starts affecting us like mandatory readings from transsexuals and crossdressers for our children or allowing men into the little girls room or having boys/men compete against girls/women. It's when our kids are being taught to hate themselves for being white. Things like that are not funny to us. We as a society want women to be equal and heard but we put any self proclaimed transsexual ahead of them. That's effed up in my world. 
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« Reply #62 on: March 18, 2021, 07:12:45 pm »

^^^^^

To add: there really isn’t much in the way of symmetry between left and right “live and let live” or imposing of values.

Nobody who is on the left wants to ban heterosexual marriages and limit marriage to only homosexual.
I'll give you this one although I'm guessing the group who is against homosexual marriage is probably in the minority today. It seems like many people today see it as a civil union and not "just" a union under God. That is much different than being forced to perform a gay wedding. I also don't think many people expect Muslims to be forced into cooking bacon in their food or cakes. Some things should just not be expected whether law or not.   

Nobody on the left wants to ban adoption and mandate all teenage pregnancies end with an abortion.
This one is actually funny as you obviously get your info from TV and movies. We also try to ban that rock an roll music and dancing too don't we? The truth is most of us Christian and conservatives would much rather adoption come into play and NOT abortions. In fact many of the private adoption agencies are Christian. Know what else .. We aren't the ones for killing a 9 month old baby just because it hasn't been born yet. That's you sick people. 

Nobody on the left goes apeshit when a church  is built the way some on the right did with a muslim house of worship in NYC.
I think you are leaving out the whole 911 Muslim extremist thing that destroyed the area. Many people saw that in bad taste. It wasn't only a Christian/conservative thing but you already know that.
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« Reply #63 on: March 18, 2021, 08:38:29 pm »

I'm sad someone brought Ben Shapiro of all people into any sort of debate. As if that guy's an authority on anything. Not sure what him being Jewish has to do with his "expertise" on trans issues.

And I'd much rather the religious right keep their priests from sexually assaulting children than being concerned which restroom someone walks into.
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« Reply #64 on: March 18, 2021, 11:34:26 pm »

I'll give you this one although I'm guessing the group who is against homosexual marriage is probably in the minority today. It seems like many people today see it as a civil union and not "just" a union under God. That is much different than being forced to perform a gay wedding. I also don't think many people expect Muslims to be forced into cooking bacon in their food or cakes. Some things should just not be expected whether law or not.   
This one is actually funny as you obviously get your info from TV and movies. We also try to ban that rock an roll music and dancing too don't we? The truth is most of us Christian and conservatives would much rather adoption come into play and NOT abortions. In fact many of the private adoption agencies are Christian. Know what else .. We aren't the ones for killing a 9 month old baby just because it hasn't been born yet. That's you sick people. 
I think you are leaving out the whole 911 Muslim extremist thing that destroyed the area. Many people saw that in bad taste. It wasn't only a Christian/conservative thing but you already know that.

You totally missed the point on the last two.

The yes, the right wants to ban abortion and force adoption.  But the left doesn’t wants to ban adoption and force abortion.

And you missed the fact a Christian extremist bombed the Olympics in Atlanta, but nobody demanding we ban christian churches from downtown Atlanta. 
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« Reply #65 on: March 18, 2021, 11:56:54 pm »

As far as live and let live ... most conservatives couldn't give a rats ass about who wears what or sticks what in whom. It's when it starts affecting us like mandatory readings from transsexuals and crossdressers for our children or allowing men into the little girls room or having boys/men compete against girls/women.
- or if someone wants to silently kneel during the national anthem
- or if someone chooses to say "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas"
- or when a same sex couple wants to get married
- or, before that, when two people of the same sex wanted to have intercourse
- or, before that, when two people of different races wanted to get married
- or, before that, when a black person wanted to use the same water fountain as white people
etc.

You absolutely care about what other people wear, or say, or don't say, or who they marry.  Conservatism is ENTIRELY about enforcing your moral standards on others.

And that's fine; as a liberal, I want to enforce my moral standards - for example, no dumping your industrial waste in the closest available river - on others, too!  But you don't see me hypocritically whining about how I only want to be left alone and let other people live their lives with Freedom.

At least have the guts to own up to the fact that you want to enforce your morality on everyone else.
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« Reply #66 on: March 19, 2021, 10:44:56 am »

As far as live and let live ... most conservatives couldn't give a rats ass about who wears what or sticks what in whom. It's when it starts affecting us like mandatory readings from transsexuals and crossdressers for our children or allowing men into the little girls room or having boys/men compete against girls/women. It's when our kids are being taught to hate themselves for being white. Things like that are not funny to us. We as a society want women to be equal and heard but we put any self proclaimed transsexual ahead of them. That's effed up in my world. 

Your world appears to be light years away from the world we actually live in...

Mandatory readings from transexuals... Oh, the horror!

And, fwiw, if you actually gave two shits in an Easter basket about women's rights, You sure as everlovin' fuck wouldn't be supporting the "supposedly Christian" GOP position of taking women's rights over their own body away from them.

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« Reply #67 on: March 19, 2021, 03:28:12 pm »

Proverbs 10:12; "Hatred stirs up strife, but love covers all offenses."  I gotta feeling it meant everyone.
LOL ... that's the funny thing about hate in 2021. The bar keeps moving according to the argument. If I disagree as a conservative then I'm a hater. If you disagree as a liberal then you are educated. From many verses I know that speaking Biblical truth when asked is not hate so I stand on that. I'm not standing on the corner chasing people down and beating them over the head with a Bible. I don't think that is Biblical.


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« Reply #68 on: March 19, 2021, 03:28:28 pm »

I'm going to lock this thread, as its way, way off from a natural progression of the ideas.  I don't think there's anywhere else to go with it.

Thanks for contributing.
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