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Fau Teixeira
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« Reply #75 on: July 20, 2021, 12:55:23 pm »

Also, corporate profit is where innovation and advancement comes from.  Cutting edge products and technology advancement comes directly from the Research and Development sectors of corporations and without a good profit, R&D will be poorly funded and innovation (including new medicines, etc that benefit every segment of society) will slow to a crawl or stop altogether.  Yes, the rich get richer under capitalism, but all of society gains from that system to one extent or another.  A rising tide lifts all boats.  Not just the yachts. 

I don't think you're right. But what generally happens is that government subsidized academics conduct research without a profit motive and when they discover or invent something, the government takes these advancements in the case of pharma and hands them over to a company to monetize while most of the core research was already taken care of.

https://www.statnews.com/2019/12/10/large-pharma-companies-provide-little-new-drug-development-innovation/

The most economically impactful invention of our lifetimes (the internet) was a government project. There was no innovation for how commerce is done online from private companies until the porn industry started wanting to collect money for porn.

Cutting edge products and innovation are the last 20% you're seeing of R&D conducted by public institutions.
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« Reply #76 on: July 20, 2021, 01:47:20 pm »

I actually thought about putting something in my post about government subsidized research and now I wish I had.   You are right about the government subsidized academic research.  But I'm referring to government contracts to For Profit companies.  This I do know about firsthand because one of the tasks in my job is to sign off on my agency's contracts with contractors that are over a certain dollar threshold.  Each year, the Federal Government spends about $500B (that is B as in BILLION) on contracts, the vast majority of which are awarded to For Profit companies as opposed to academic entities or Not For Profits. A lot of money is dedicated to academic entities, etc. but it is a veritable splash in the bucket in comparison to that annual $500B.   Now of course not all of those contracts are for research and development types of services.  The government contracts things out to corporations for everything from janitorial services at federal facilities to contracts for things that absolutely do go to corporations to do R&D for things which result in technological advances which benefit every strata of the American income spectrum.
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« Reply #77 on: July 20, 2021, 08:35:49 pm »

We haven't even gotten to how for profit prisons are horrid. speaking of government contracts
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« Reply #78 on: July 20, 2021, 09:20:30 pm »

Want to  talk about eating out and COVID anyone? Smiley
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« Reply #79 on: July 20, 2021, 09:34:43 pm »

We haven't even gotten to how for profit prisons are horrid. speaking of government contracts

Now on that I will agree with you.
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« Reply #80 on: July 20, 2021, 09:36:04 pm »

Want to  talk about eating out and COVID anyone? Smiley

Umm, sorry.  I get distracted easily.   
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« Reply #81 on: July 22, 2021, 10:45:55 pm »

Want to  talk about eating out and COVID anyone? Smiley

lol  Can't wait for the football season to start; where every single topic will devolve into Tua sucks and should be traded, or Tua just needs some help and time to grow.  That is unless the Dolphins win every game by 56 points and go 17-0, where there will be at least one guy saying they should have won every game by 59.
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