Mainstream media bias and Sound of Freedom

[CF DolFan]

Kind of funny but predictable. When we used similar criteria judging Pride events you called us homophobes and defended the pedophiles.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

When we used similar criteria judging Pride events you called us homophobes and defended the pedophiles.

Not sure what the heck that sentence even means.

We call you homophobes when you make the claim that an adult male enjoying the Barbie movie means he is a pedophile. 

[Spider-Dan]

He means that when conservatives say "Pride events are not suitable for children," we call them homophobes and defend the pedophiles.
There are two implications:

1) any Pride event is indistinguishable from the raunchiest Pride event with naked adults in the Castro district of San Francisco
2) gay people are pedophiles

CF, most people agree that a parade with naked adults is not suitable for children.  We do not agree, however, that this is implied by the term "Pride event."

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

^^^thanks

[Dave Gray]

On the topic of pride events, I've been to a couple as a volunteer with my Star Wars club.  It's always super kid-appropriate.  It's just people walking and high-fiving and hugging and being generally positive while waving around rainbow flags and stuff.  I think a lot of it here is a way for straight people (specifically family members) to show support their friends and family that might feel like they don't have it from the world sometimes.  ...at least that's the vibe that I pull in.

There's also an element of surrogate support, like "I'm a mom if you need a hug from a mom since yours won't."  ...stuff like that.

...no assless chaps.

[CF DolFan]

On the topic of pride events, I've been to a couple as a volunteer with my Star Wars club.  It's always super kid-appropriate.  It's just people walking and high-fiving and hugging and being generally positive while waving around rainbow flags and stuff.  I think a lot of it here is a way for straight people (specifically family members) to show support their friends and family that might feel like they don't have it from the world sometimes.  ...at least that's the vibe that I pull in.

There's also an element of surrogate support, like "I'm a mom if you need a hug from a mom since yours won't."  ...stuff like that.

...no assless chaps.

If what you say is true then that is how it is supposed to be. That's not what people are upset about. They didn't outlaw pride events or even drag shows. They outlawed kids being in the presence when adult things are happening.

There is a married gay guy in Palm Coast who had to point this out many, many, times to people on Tik Tok who kept asking why he is staying in Florida. His answer was because the law doesn't affect him or his husband because they aren't pedophiles. Couldn't have said it better myself.  

BTW ... all chaps are assless. hahaha

[Dave Gray]

A pride parade is a theme of a parade.  Like a Mardi Gras parade or Carnivale or Christmas or veterans or Halloween or anything like that.

Within the subset of a parade, there are people who are going to show their tits for beads at a Mardi Gras parade or be naked at a Carnivale event or inappropriate Halloween attire at a Halloween party.

There is no connection to it being a pride parade, is what I think we're saying.  I've seen way more tits and dicks at Moonfest for Halloween downtown or with these Santa parades where a bunch of dudes get drunk and dress like inappropriate Santa.  I've seen none of this at the pride parades here.  So, I think that the disproportionate concern about pride parades, while you don't hear anyone aghast about children maybe going to a Halloween parade -- It doesn't seem like genuine concern and is yet another way to try and connect being gay with harming children, which has always been part of the bigotry playbook.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

In my area the gay pride events seem kid friendly. Irish pride events (aka St. Patrick's Day) are not children appropriate.

[Spider-Dan]

There is a married gay guy in Palm Coast who had to point this out many, many, times to people on Tik Tok who kept asking why he is staying in Florida. His answer was because the law doesn't affect him or his husband because they aren't pedophiles. Couldn't have said it better myself.

If a law was made targeting "the many pedophiles in the Christian community trying to groom our kids," I doubt you would so flippant about saying, "Well, only the Christians who are pedophiles have something to worry about."

[Spider-Dan]

In today's episode of Every Accusation Is A Confession:

'Sound of Freedom' Funder Fabian Marta Charged With Felony Child Kidnapping

The latest thing to make you go hmmmm involving this movie and the people who helped bring it to the public is the recent arrest of Fabian Marta, who bragged about helping fund the movie after Disney shelved it. According to the Missouri Courts website, Marta was charged July 21 with child kidnapping, a felony. According to Newsweek, which published his mugshot, Marta was arrested on July 23. “A person commits the offense of child kidnapping if he or she is not a relative of the child within the third degree and, knowing he or she has no right to do so, removes a child under the age of fourteen without consent of the child’s parents or guardian, or confines such child for a substantial period of time without such consent,” is how Marta’s charge is defined on the Missouri Revisor of Statutes.

For weeks now, writer, podcaster, and per his Twitter name, anti-disinfo activist Jim Stewartson has been tweeting about Marta’s association with “sugar daddy/baby” parties, as well as Marta’s Facebook claims of helping bring Sound of Freedom to the screen after “Disney attempted to bury this movie.” In a comment, Marta wrote: “I was aware of this early, the movie was filmed several years ago. As an Angel investor, I was able to be a financial partner. Early investors were credited at the end of the film.”

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The guy whom the movie was based on, Tim Ballard, recently left the anti-trafficking company he founded (Operation Underground Railroad) after an internal investigation into claims made by his employees.

What is there to say?  This isn't even surprising.  The moment a conservative starts screaming about some Danger To Society, any journalist worth their salt should immediately look into that person's history on that exact issue.

[Dave Gray]

If what you say is true then that is how it is supposed to be. That's not what people are upset about.

Because the playbook is to create solutions for things that aren't problems and then to paint with a broad brush.  This will create fear an uncertainty for those who are to put on pride parades to worry that they're going to be prosecuted.  It just harasses a community.  The cruelty is the point.