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« on: September 08, 2025, 10:26:49 am »

Obviously Tua isn't the answer but with that enormous guarantee, you are pretty much stuck with him for at least one more season.   Since you just got blown out by a less-than-mediocre Colts team with a retread QB who was cast off by a bad Giants team, your chances of making the playoffs are slim to none and slim is about to leave the building. 

The 2026 draft is chock full of QBs and as it looks right now, you'll have a top ten pick, if not top five.   Do you take one knowing you may have to sit him for a year?
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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2025, 10:47:44 am »

If the whole regime is changed than yes. It’s fine to have a QB sit a year or you just eat Tua’s salary for a year but if you’re in the top ten and there’s good quarterbacks that can change the franchise you do it. Tua isn’t him.
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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2025, 11:47:37 am »

the only answer is yes...

right after the coach and GM is fired....
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« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2025, 03:14:51 pm »

I don't think you do.

I say that because I think you HAVE to play Tua until his contract lets you get rid of them and that isn't now.

And I think that you want to take advantage of a QB's rookie contract.  You probably don't want Tua and our eventual starter on the same team at the same time.  I don't think that the money allows for that.
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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2025, 08:12:53 pm »

Too early to tell, need to evaluate Wilson and Ewers in a couple real games.  But this won't happen until McDaniel gets fired or Tua takes another head hit.
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« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2025, 08:53:57 pm »

I don't think you do.

I say that because I think you HAVE to play Tua until his contract lets you get rid of them and that isn't now.

And I think that you want to take advantage of a QB's rookie contract.  You probably don't want Tua and our eventual starter on the same team at the same time.  I don't think that the money allows for that.

The counter argument is that you do draft one and sit him on the bench for a season because he is on a rookie contract, so you can afford to do it while still paying out a veteran.

In the recent past the Chiefs drafted Mahomes and had him on the bench the first season. The Packers did it with Love.

It comes down to if the talent is there and available - doubly so if there is a regime change, with McDaniel and Grier gone. They will probably want their own guy to build the team around.
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« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2025, 10:09:15 pm »

Anytime you have a shot at a top tier QB you take it. You don't get that many chances at them.
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« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2025, 10:17:59 pm »

Too early to tell, need to evaluate Wilson and Ewers in a couple real games.  But this won't happen until McDaniel gets fired or Tua takes another head hit.

That could happen a lot sooner than we think. Daniels only lasted a handful of plays, and is out with a pec injury for a few weeks. Jackson is questionable with his toe injury that took him out of the game as well as limited him preseason. That's Tua's first choice of blindside protection.

Add to that McDaniel's traditional lack of assigning protection against overloaded sides for blitzes by the TE & RB position, and I think Tua will be lucky to last the next three weeks without being carted off the field. Everyone has seen our inability to cope with this all last season and this game, so you can expect there will be a ton of pressure coming from Tua's blindside every play.



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« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2025, 10:35:08 am »

The counter argument is that you do draft one and sit him on the bench for a season because he is on a rookie contract, so you can afford to do it while still paying out a veteran.

I could be wrong, but I just don't think that's how you should do it anymore.  You don't want to waste a year paying a guy (especially locked into the low rate) where he isn't playing.  Sitting a QB for a whole year is very old thinking.

Mahomes as the recent example -- that's still almost a decade ago.
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« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2025, 11:00:34 am »

I could be wrong, but I just don't think that's how you should do it anymore.  You don't want to waste a year paying a guy (especially locked into the low rate) where he isn't playing.  Sitting a QB for a whole year is very old thinking.

Mahomes as the recent example -- that's still almost a decade ago.

The Giants are doing it with Dart.   Although I think at some point, Dart will get a chance to start this year.    

Not to mention that Tua is injury prone and if he sustains another concussion, said rookie will get a chance to develop in live game situations.
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« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2025, 01:30:28 pm »

Jordan Love?
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« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2025, 01:35:27 pm »

Jordan Love?

Love is another great example.   Everyone questioned why he was drafted while Rodgers was in his prime.   Now the Packers look like geniuses.   Add in that their defense just got ten times better by adding Parsons and they could very well be a Super Bowl contender this year.  
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« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2025, 12:09:48 pm »

Let's not panic just yet. Yes, it was a horrible game, but it's just one loss. If they continue to play like that, then sure we can have those conversations along with an entirely new coaching staff and GM, but I think it's just as likely the team bounces back and plays well and wins this week and all of that talk is put aside again for awhile.

Having said that, I think all of you know that I wasn't on board with the Tua pick from the beginning and I haven't changed my mind about him, not really. He's a decent enough QB to win a Superbowl, but he's gonna need a LOT of help doing it and frankly until the rest of the team is in place, no QB is gonna get you to a Superbowl. Mahomes couldn't take this team to a Superbowl so why stress about the QB position? Let's be honest here, the entire team needs an upgrade, not just the QB position. I do think they did a good job with this year's draft, but we need to string together another 2 or 3 of those to get this team where we want it to be. Somewhere along the line you need to replace Tua as well, but it doesn't have to be the next draft or even the one after that necessarily.
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« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2025, 12:37:16 pm »

I would like to revise my statement.  If a QB is available that you think is going to be a phenomenal player, you should draft that person under any circumstances, even if you have a great QB.

But I don't think you should draft a QB for need until you're ready to start that player.
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« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2025, 01:16:43 pm »

I would like to revise my statement.  If a QB is available that you think is going to be a phenomenal player, you should draft that person under any circumstances, even if you have a great QB.

But I don't think you should draft a QB for need until you're ready to start that player.
Honestly I think you should probably take a QB somewhere in the draft probably about every 2 years. Whether that's a 1st rounder or 7th rounder should be based on how you feel about the QB and that position on your roster. Basically you should look at the QB position pretty much the same as any highly valued position like pass rush specialist, left tackle, etc. You can never have enough good QB's.

I really liked the Ewers pick this year for that reason. He might not work out, but who knows, he could be our starter in 2 years.
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