Round two

[CF DolFan]

No way either one of them last that long. In fact, there are rumors Miami may trade back into round one to grab either one of them!

I saw that too but I think it's BS.  It was bought up that if Miami was trying to trade up they certainly wouldn't give a clue as to why or for who.   

[YoFuggedaboutit]

I think Miami will have to jump ahead of SF at #29 to get Groves, because Nolan and the 49ers seem to be pretty tunnel-visioned in on him right now. As a duly appointed representative of the 49ers, I am authorized to offer Miami the #29 pick for #32 and their 4th rounder.

How about JT for #29 and we'll flip-flop 4th rounders?   

[DolFan619]

http://dolphinsindepth.blogspot.com/

Some players Miami will look at with the rest of the draft

OK guys here are some names of players I have unearthed that the Dolphins are very, very, very interested in. This is not a complete list by any means but it includes names you might not have seen mentioned by other news sources.

We know Jake Long is a done deal. But the rumors about the Dolphins liking other Michigan players based on the friendship between Bill Parcells and Lloyd Carr are accurate. When Long visited the Dolphins a while back, receiver Mario Manningham and quarterback Chad Henne were also here.

The three had dinner with coach Tony Sparano, GM Jeff Ireland and offensive coordinator Dan Henning. Henne worked out for the Dolphins, by the way, but he also worked for the Tampa Bay Bucs and the Falcons.

Watch for Manningham as third round pick if he's around. He didn't run well (4.6) at the combine and had issues with marijuana but that might still make him a value in the third round or even the fourth round. Another Michigan player the Dolphins like on the second day is Michigan receiver Adrian Arrington.

Arrington is neither fast, explosive nor a great route runner. But he is has good hands, is a fine blocker, isn't afraid to go over the middle and, at nearly 6-3, has the body to get bigger and stronger.

We know the Dolphins love Auburn linebacker/defensive end Quentin Groves (pictured). He's the guy I believe the team will take with No. 32, if he is available. They also like Auburn DT Pat Sims as a second-round pick. Another possible second round pick is Penn State inside linebacker Dan Connor who is a little light for the 3-4 at 230 pounds, but could easily add some bulk.

Connor had character issues. He missed three games in 2005 after he got caught making harassing phone calls. But that is reportedly is something Connor addressed with the Dolphins during his visit with them.

Sims has good bulk and he is VERY explosive off the ball which typically makes him a disruptive force when he can disengage from the center. Keep your eyes on him when the Dolphins are picking in the second round.

The Dolphins still have not made a decision on Reagan Mauia following his arrest for punching somebody at an Ale House parking lot earlier this month. So look for them to hedge their bet by adding a fullback either in the draft or as an undrafted free agent. Miami likes Idaho fullback Rolly Lumbala, who worked out for them.

I realize the Dolphins are telling everyone Vernon Carey is going to right tackle. But the fact of the matter is the previous regime finished last season convinced Carey is best suited for a guard position. I don't know if this regime shares that idea but I do know the Dolphins really like Toledo offensive tackle John Greco.

Greco has drawn interest from numerous clubs over the past few months, including formal interviews at the Combine with San Diego, Miami, Dallas, Arizona, St. Louis, Detroit and Indianapolis. The Colts and Miami were also prominent among the teams that were looking at him recently.

Greco seems like a perfect right tackle candidate.

The Dolphins need a tight end because David Martin simply didn't get it done last year. Watch for Tennessee's Brad Cottam, who had personal workouts with the Miami, the Chiefs, Falcons, Browns and Jets. Cottom is a second-day player also. University of Miami linebacker Tavares Gooden showed great speed at the Combine. He visited the Dolphins during their chats with local players but he didn't work out for them then. He would be a good value in the third round. The Ravens love the kid, but they love many UM players.

Finally, watch for Purdue CB Terrell Vinson. Purdue's productive cornerback has received repeated inquiries from the Cleveland Browns, but he's also been in contact with the Dolphins, Panthers, Texans, Colts, Chiefs, and Vikings recently.

He is 5-9 and 183 pounds and, as you might guess at that size, he is quick, running the 40 in 4.47. But he is deceptively strong having done 16 reps of the 225 pound bench press at the Combine.

I will add more names as I come across them. I will also do a live chat on The Herald website from 1-2 p.m on Friday. Join me there. I will be on 790 The Ticket from 1-3 p.m. Saturday so you can listen locally or on the Internet at 790theticket.com. Feel free to call with your comments.

I will be blogging live from Dolphins camp once the draft begins. Join me here then.

[Sunstroke]

Another Michigan player the Dolphins like on the second day is Michigan receiver Adrian Arrington.

Arrington is neither fast, explosive nor a great route runner. But he is has good hands, is a fine blocker, isn't afraid to go over the middle and, at nearly 6-3, has the body to get bigger and stronger.

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I don't know if this regime shares that idea but I do know the Dolphins really like Toledo offensive tackle John Greco.

Greco has drawn interest from numerous clubs over the past few months, including formal interviews at the Combine with San Diego, Miami, Dallas, Arizona, St. Louis, Detroit and Indianapolis. The Colts and Miami were also prominent among the teams that were looking at him recently.

Greco seems like a perfect right tackle candidate. 

On Arrington...if you go back to the first TDMMC show that Dave hosted, I mentioned Arrington, and the fact that, by the time the season was over, I liked him a little bit more than his more celebrated teammate. The reasons noted by this blogger were part of that, but I also think he plays faster than he clocks, and really doesn't have any speed problems at all.

On Manningham...4 weeks ago, he was a borderline first rounder. Now he's looking like a third rounder. I'd prefer to see some other team take a chance on the guy...there will be plenty of quality receivers in the middle rounds this weekend.

On Greco... To give credit where credit is due, WalterFootball.com's Matt McGuire listed him in his first appearance as a mid-round tackle who could turn into something pretty special. He also noted that he'd make a better right tackle than left.

On Henne... I don't have any problem with Henne, but I feel that Flacco will be the better NFL QB, and IF we do go QB in round two, I hope Flacco is the choice. Honestly, I'd rather see Miami go later in the draft on a developmental QB (Dixon or O'Connell or even Smith would make me smile on day two), and use all of the early picks on blue chip OL/DL/LB/DBs to support our skill position guys... Maybe a WR in rd 3-4, if a really high quality one slips, but really...you can wait on WR and still get quality. I think the Irish Tuna understands that "win from the line out" is the ultimate football truth, and I fully expect to see 4 of the first 5 picks go on OL or DL (with edge rushing OLB counting as DL).

Can't wait for saturday...oh boy, oh boy, oh boy!

[yuppi]

I think chenne and flacco are too esxpensive to go so early at round two espicially when comparable guys liike kentucky's qb and erik ainge will be available

[tubba marxxx]

spell check for the win....and andre woodson?.....apparently beck is our guy...he seemed to settle in his own against the bengals....

[Dave Gray]

Hey Tubba,

Welcome to the site.

[Philly Fin Fan]

Brandon Flowers, Talib are good possibilities. I think there will be some good edge rushers there at the start of rd 2 as well.

How many other celebrities can we draft? We already got kids cartoon star American Dragon Jake Long. Now you mention we should draft the lead singer from The Killers, Brandon Flowers. Who else is available in the draft with a famous name?

[DolFan619]

apparently beck is our guy...he seemed to settle in his own against the bengals....

  Well, I would hope that he is.  Regardless, if Beck wants to have any chance at success in 2008, this team needs to give him some more weapons.  Especially at TE!  Add another WR or two to the mix as well as another OG to compete with Drew Mormino.  Jake Long was an excellent first step, in helping Beck achieve success.

[bsfins]

^^ you think we all missed the sign,They're working on John Becks throwing motion,making sure his release point is higher...because we're gonna draft a 6'7" left tackle? 

[RhodeIslandPhinFan]

AQIB TALIB!!!!!  PLEASE!!!!!