Bill Parcells vs. Jason Taylor

[JVides]

I always side with management.  You're paid to do a job -- do it.

But in this case, Taylor's "Job" is to be in the "voluntary" offseason conditioning programm, which begs two questions:
1- If it's "Voluntary", then why be upset if Taylor's not there?  You want everyone there?  Make it compulsory.
2 - Does Jason Taylor LOOK out of shape to anyone watching (sad to say, the wife loves this crap)?  He looks like he could run laps around most NFL guys right now.

[AprFools_Phins]

Hands down Taylor. There is no reason for Parcells to be a dick to JT- he has given everything to the Dolphins- and is the biggest part of this team and Parcells wants to be an ass to him? I heard that when Jason came in Parcell just ignored him- that's just ridiculous. And DWTS is going on in the offseason- JT can do whatever he wants in the offseason, whether it be dancing- or sailing around the world. It's his time, and can do with it what he pleases.

[DolFan619]

  People wanted Bill Parcells.  Guess what?  You got Bill Parcells.  Parcells doesn't give a crap about who you are, what you've done, and how long you've been with a franchise.  The minute your extracurricular activities interfere with his offseason program, you're immediately on Parcells shit list.  Bill Parcells expects his team leaders to be in the offseason program, in the weight room and on the practice field setting the example for the younger guys.  Too see that the so-called face of the Miami Dolphins has traded in his offseason workouts for some stupid dancing show, probably makes him that much more angrier.  Parcells, Ireland, and Coach Sparano are trying to instill a new culture in Miami, and the fact that Jason is "doing the cha-cha like a sissy girl" in Hollywood is not helping the transition.

  Parcells will push your buttons, get under your skin, play mind games, and will do whatever he has to, in order to make an example out of someone.  Quite honestly, after the past year and a half Jason Taylor needs some humbling.  It seems like he's getting too big for his britches.  Let's take a look at the timeline.

- End of 2006 season, Jason starts talking about "retirement."

- The whole Trent Green "scrambled eggs" remark was out of line and completely uncalled for.  While Trent may have gone on to taking another season-ending concussion, the fact of the matter is you don't speak that way about a new teammate.  Jason is the leader of the lockerroom, he should've shown a little more class than that. 

- Criticizing the selection of Ted Ginn Jr.  While most of us crticized the selection, Jason should've kept his mouth shut.  It's not the kid's fault that he got drafted.  Bring up your issues with management in private, but don't do it in an interview with Sports Illustrated.  You're not the GM, shut your piehole.  Besides, Ted was arguably the best receiver on the team last year.

- Jason Taylor was the one that instigated the mutiny against Cam Cameron towards the end of last season.  Say what you want about Cam Cameron, but the "face of the franchise" is supposed to be the one that holds the team together in the most turbulent times.  To me, that reveals a lot about his character and his ability as a leader.  Jason should've quelled the uprising, not start it. He pretty much let Joey Porter rip into Cameron in front of the entire team and stood by and did absolutely nothing as it was happening.

- Now, he's Dancing With The Stars.  Need I say more?

  I appreciate what Jason has done on the football field in his 11 seasons as a Miami Dolphin, and his charitable work in the South Florida community is commendable.  However, his character and his desire as of late has seriously come into question.  Maybe it's because of the all the ineptitude that he's had to deal with since being here.  However, should Jason really be shocked and incensed that Parcells ignored him?  It's not like Bill owes him anything, and he doesn't. 

[Sunstroke]

Doesn't really matter whose side you are on... if the Dolphins don't trade Taylor, they lose.

Taylor could get the Dolphins a round one draft spot or more if traded. 

Obviously not...the best offer they got during the draft was a pair of third rounders, one of which was in next year's draft. That's the only reason JT is still a Dolphin, Miami couldn't get any real value.

[yuppi]

  People wanted Bill Parcells.  Guess what?  You got Bill Parcells.  Parcells doesn't give a crap about who you are, what you've done, and how long you've been with a franchise.  The minute your extracurricular activities interfere with his offseason program, you're immediately on Parcells shit list.  Bill Parcells expects his team leaders to be in the offseason program, in the weight room and on the practice field setting the example for the younger guys.  Too see that the so-called face of the Miami Dolphins has traded in his offseason workouts for some stupid dancing show, probably makes him that much more angrier.  Parcells, Ireland, and Coach Sparano are trying to instill a new culture in Miami, and the fact that Jason is "doing the cha-cha like a sissy girl" in Hollywood is not helping the transition.

the cha cha involves extreme conditioning
adn he started/signed up before before tuna came along.
he's also the face of the league right now like it or not, and its not in a pacman or chad jonhson type a way.
a reputable, marketable player.

  Parcells will push your buttons, get under your skin, play mind games, and will do whatever he has to, in order to make an example out of someone.  Quite honestly, after the past year and a half Jason Taylor needs some humbling.  It seems like he's getting too big for his britches.  Let's take a look at the timeline.

- End of 2006 season, Jason starts talking about "retirement."

and?

- The whole Trent Green "scrambled eggs" remark was out of line and completely uncalled for.  While Trent may have gone on to taking another season-ending concussion, the fact of the matter is you don't speak that way about a new teammate.  Jason is the leader of the lockerroom, he should've shown a little more class than that. 

that was before he became a teammate, and lol, he was dead right wasn't he?

- Criticizing the selection of Ted Ginn Jr.  While most of us crticized the selection, Jason should've kept his mouth shut.  It's not the kid's fault that he got drafted.  Bring up your issues with management in private, but don't do it in an interview with Sports Illustrated.  You're not the GM, shut your piehole.  Besides, Ted was arguably the best receiver on the team last year.

he was still awful. being the best in a group of incompetent players doesnt make you any special. he dropped passes and found it hard to break open despite a good running game from brown.

- Jason Taylor was the one that instigated the mutiny against Cam Cameron towards the end of last season.  Say what you want about Cam Cameron, but the "face of the franchise" is supposed to be the one that holds the team together in the most turbulent times.  To me, that reveals a lot about his character and his ability as a leader.  Jason should've quelled the uprising, not start it. He pretty much let Joey Porter rip into Cameron in front of the entire team and stood by and did absolutely nothing as it was happening.

cameron was the wrong choice from day one im glad to see him gone... why fight for something you don't believe in. Jason wants to win more then anything. Losing the final game to Patriots six seasons ago to miss the playoffs brought him to tears. he's a winner.
hmph.

[Sunstroke]

Can I get back the 30-something seconds it took me to read the last post?

[DolFan619]

the cha cha involves extreme conditioning

  You know, speaking of that.  While Jason does get most of his workouts through dancing, he has also hired two other personal trainers while out in Hollywood.  I've actually been able to obtain video footage of the type of workouts they put Jason through.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYHFt15Z5Us

[Philly Fin Fan]

Dolfan 619 hit it right on the head. A lot of people talk about how the Fins should keep JT because they need a veteran presence to be an example for the younger players. What kind of example is he setting by blatantly ignoring the offseason conditioning program?

[TonyB0D]

Dolfan 619 hit it right on the head. A lot of people talk about how the Fins should keep JT because they need a veteran presence to be an example for the younger players. What kind of example is he setting by blatantly ignoring the offseason conditioning program?

because its VOLUNTARY!  if ur gonna be pissed people aren't there, make it mandatory.  it's kinda like coughlin's stupid 5-minute early rule

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

1- If it's "Voluntary", then why be upset if Taylor's not there?  You want everyone there?  Make it compulsory.
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I think the NFL players union rules prohibit teams from making it compulsory.

[landlocked]

J.T has played his ass off here,and carried himself with class,the guy is ALWAYS in shape,ALWAYS plays hard,and has ALWAYS been a team leader.Tony Soprano and Tuna need to knock off the sgt. bilko crap,this is a veteran all pro defensive end--worthy of the benefit of the doubt.Not some fat ass vet like traylor or some self promoting a-hole like porter,this is Jason Taylor....a guy that is not only the heart and soul of the team,but a guy that I wish other pro athletes were like.Trust me coach,when the season starts you're gonna be glad you don't have to play against this guy.

[Defense54]

Hands down Taylor. There is no reason for Parcells to be a dick to JT- he has given everything to the Dolphins- and is the biggest part of this team and Parcells wants to be an ass to him? I heard that when Jason came in Parcell just ignored him- that's just ridiculous. And DWTS is going on in the offseason- JT can do whatever he wants in the offseason, whether it be dancing- or sailing around the world. It's his time, and can do with it what he pleases.

Taylor is GREAT . I Love him.  But he is one man and his time with us is almost done. How he handles him will have a great impact on the rookies. No special treatment for anyone.

[Dave Gray]

I am not siding with Parcells in terms of Jason Taylor not going to the optional practice.  (But that's just semantics.  It's mandatory, they just can't get their lawyers to make that the case.)

Taylor can do what he wants.
But so can Parcells.

I don't really like when players demand a trade and try to tell their bosses what is what, regardless of how long you're been around or what you've done in the past.  A coach can't show weakness to his players, and this team is a whole lot bigger than one man's needs.

I hope they can work it out.

[YoFuggedaboutit]

I hope they can work it out.

I hope so too.....otherwise Taylor will become what he once despised..... a locker room cancer.

[DolFan619]

  BUMP.  Due to today's latest news involving Taylor.