John Beck doesn't stand a chance

[YoFuggedaboutit]

You have to admit, whether you agree with ethurst or not, that Parcells has shown that he only wants guys that he picks.  I honestly believe that he would have fired the entire team if he thought he could have gotten away with it.  But if he had done that, then we would be 0-16 this year and that wouldn't look too good for Parcells.

Anyone who was here before the Parcells regime should go ahead and line up a moving company just to be prepared.  This particularly applies to Beck, just as ethurst stated.

By the way, this is the thing I like the least about the Parcells method.  He cleans house to the point that it hurts the team (just a little too much).  I feel that this is what has kept his projects from making the step from playoff teams to championship teams. 

Good luck Beck, I am pulling for you!  I just can't help getting the feeling that your gonna get screwed.  Hope I am wrong.

Doc's got a point here.  They say that actions speak louder than words.  This could very well be true for the new Dolphins brass.   All this media hype about the new Parcells regime liking Beck, and then they go and draft Chad Henne in the second round. 

[Philly Fin Fan]

Doc's got a point here.  They say that actions speak louder than words.  This could very well be true for the new Dolphins brass.   All this media hype about the new Parcells regime liking Beck, and then they go and draft Chad Henne in the second round. 

They had to say they liked Beck. If they didn't say they liked him, and then were unable to draft any QB's they did like, it would've looked like they were screwed and "stuck" with Beck. By hyping him up and saying how much they loved Beck, they look like they got their cake and ate it too. (By keeping Beck, whom they liked, and drafting Henne, whom they also liked).

[simeon]

I don't even believe Beck will win the starting job this year, McCown will get the nod/
There are things I do like about Beck, one is his foot work, but that is over shadowed by his poor play making abilities. I would like to see Beck continue as a back up in Miami, I believe he would a good asset in that position.

[YoFuggedaboutit]

They had to say they liked Beck. If they didn't say they liked him, and then were unable to draft any QB's they did like, it would've looked like they were screwed and "stuck" with Beck. By hyping him up and saying how much they loved Beck, they look like they got their cake and ate it too. (By keeping Beck, whom they liked, and drafting Henne, whom they also liked).

OK, but do you really think they liked Beck that much if they drafted Chad Henne?

[bsfins]

OK, but do you really think they liked Beck that much if they drafted Chad Henne?

Yes it's called covering all your bases...You don't like what's out on the free agent market.You also have Becks age to take into consideration....Unfiortunatl y there will be fans screaming week 3 to put Henne in....God forbid he struggles,they'll write him off ....

[TEKGOD]

Beck never had a chance because by the time he can actually develop into anything he will be pushing 30.
His age is his biggest downfall.
I say unless he's clear cut above the rest - deal him if possible.
Too many of you are afraid to do this because you think we are dealing away a Tom Brady in the rough.
Ha!
The odds are in the Phins favor overwhelmingly.
Trade the Mormon

[StL FinFan]

He has no trade value.

[doctord56]

It's not that Parcells likes or hates Beck. I think Beck is a cypher right now. Beck played well at BYU and has a big league arm. Of his four games last year with the phins, two of them were played in a swamp, and the two games with decent field conditions took place while he was surrounded with the least talented and most dispirited offensive personnel in the NFL. You're not going to look like Joe Montana or Johhny Unitas when you're throwing to starting wideout Derek Hagen, and Samkon Gado is your feature tailback.

Look, he's on the roster, he has no trade value, and he's under contract. There's no reason to dump him now, when he might show some ability. He'll get his chance, as will McCown and Henne. If he shows he's better than the other two guys, he'll play, because Parcells wants to build a winner and is looking for a QB. Alternatively,  if he doesn't show much, he'll sit on the bench this year and be gone the next.

And all I hope and pray for is that one of these three guys steps out of the pack, and shows he has what it takes to be what the Dolphins have not had since about 1995 or 1996--a QB that teams must respect and fear. I don't care which of the three it is, I'll take any one of them if they can play.

[Doc-phin]

If he shows he's better than the other two guys, he'll play, because Parcells wants to build a winner and is looking for a QB. Alternatively,  if he doesn't show much, he'll sit on the bench this year and be gone the next.

I like everything you are saying but don't you get the feeling based on history that Parcells only really wants the guys that he picks, particularly at the "key postions"? 

I would think that Beck would have to be absolutely, undeniably, incredible to stay with the team past this season.  I also don't think he is going to be given a true shot this season (meaning more than a couple of starts).  Because of this, I have to agree that Beck hardly stands a chance.

I like your logic, but I don't see Parcells using that logic and although I still think Parcells is overall great at what he does, this is where I think the ego of Parcells could hurt the team (at least a little).

[JonBGoode]

While the point of John not being a "Parcells" guy is well taken. It is also a given that John Beck will not be out worked or out prepared; be it in the gym, the film room, or the practice field. If he doesn't win the starting job it will be because McCown or Henne  is better in the real arena with the bullets flying.

P.S. John Beck will be 27 in Aug. not 28.

[ARamsFan]

Speaking of Mormon QB's, I think Garcia really didn't impress anybody very much until 9r's signed him. Over there, he's as good as Young & Montana. Now my take: If Parcells roots another coaching tree in South Florida, then Beck's in like Flint. Either that, or Parcells has flamed out of coaching like Pat Riley. I think he's smart enough to retain the starting spot and has a better shot than Henne and McCown.

If McCown was playoff-calibre, would the Raiders have jumped at C-Pep? Henne could be another Marino, but it would take that kind of skill and ability to unseat Beck. 

[run_to_win]

If McCown was playoff-calibre...

Has McCown ever even been starting caliber???

[DolFan619]

Has McCown ever even been starting caliber???

  If I had to sum it up in one word...  NO!

[DZA]

  If I had to sum it up in one word...  NO!

You can never really tell.  Josh  may blossom with Miami just like how Trent green did when he went to KC.  Sometimes its the new enviroment and the system that can bring about change.   Hopefully our QB problems will end soon enough!

[Sunstroke]

It is also a given that John Beck will not be out worked or out prepared; be it in the gym, the film room, or the practice field.

Why is this a given? This doesn't sound like a "given," as much as it sounds like a fan of that particular player saying nice things about the player they like.

And while that's cool... it's not a given.